More Scrappage, GRRRR

[FredTransit]

You loose that in depreciation driving off the forecourt.....

[AXrescuer]

[r.welfare]

"£7999 normal price" - for a 2 year old Spanish shopping trolley?! Give over. It's the old Reg Vardy smoke-and-mirrors trick - inflate the "real price" so that the "reduced price" looks more enticing, even though the latter is much more realistic to the market...

[Mr_Bo11ox]

LOL, i wonder if they teach that kind of spurious maths in that Academy school sponsored by Vardy + co up in Durham.

[FredTransit]

The gullibility of the buying public never ceases to amaze....

[pogweasel]

The Peugeot dealers in Edgware have a lovely faded-red Pug 309 advertising scrappage (sadly no pic).

[whitevanman]

The gullibility of the buying public never ceases to amaze....

Just as well sometimes....................imagine what would happen if they all wised up

[Father Ted]

The BMW dealer in Balckpool has gone one better they have a cubed red car, by the looks of the wheels probably a mk 4 escort parked next to a nice shiny BMW mini.

[Guest]

The BMW dealer in Balckpool has gone one better they have a cubed red car, by the looks of the wheels probably a mk 4 escort parked next to a nice shiny BMW mini.

I suppose in the interests of preserving brand image at least they havent cubed an old 3 series or pre-BMW Cooper, but I cant see many mk4 Escrote owners trading up to a new BINI, £2k incentive or no.

[FredTransit]

The gullibility of the buying public never ceases to amaze....

Just as well sometimes....................imagine what would happen if they all wised up

How do you mean? The dealers would go bust or we would have no cheap tat to buy?

[VWPowered]

bugger that i like cheap bangers keeps me entertained in my otherwise dismal world

[whitevanman]

The gullibility of the buying public never ceases to amaze....

Just as well sometimes....................imagine what would happen if they all wised up

we would have no cheap tat to buy?

exactly.............. we need to be grateful for greedy, status loving fools that are willing to part with their hard earned readies

[whitevanman]

last week I was working in the Glasgow area.several dealer have the old car = money signs out, the following cars were spotted..87 Bluebird saloonAustin ADO13Sixties mini3x Mk3 Scrotes including a Y reg XR3 2 x Sierras3 x BMW 3 of 5 sieres 80's modelsPug 104Reno 5Mk2 Cavalier saloonB reg Cherry there were a few others but I cant remember what they were or only caught a glimpse of themsad times...............

[Richard]

Pug 104? I've a feeling there are only a handful of them left in the UK!

[scrappylad]

This will upset people, so if you're not wanting to be upset right now, probably best not to read on... I'm certainly saddened by the sheer wastefulness of it.

 

One of the latest victims... 1989 14k mile Volvo 740 GL... one owner with full dealer history (on an age, not mileage basis), pristine condition - and I mean pristine condition, with the exception of a tiny ding on a front wing... as good on top & inside as it was on the underside & under the bonnet, with no signs of ageing whatsoever. The galvanised bolts were still all shiny (yes, even on the underside), the red engine paint looked as fresh as the day, the steel wheels beneath the pristine trims were shiny & black and there was no evidence of any previous repairs. Where the exhaust had been covered for the purpose of applying anti-rust protection when new, the visible body colour paint behind was still fresh. There were stickers from when the car was new still under the bonnet and underneath the car. If Volvo had wanted a car for a museum, this was it.

 

The old boy just wanted a new car.

 

Lunacy. In the hands of thedoctor it would probably have achieved twice that on ebay, and have been assured a promising future.

 

T'is a sad day.

 

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Please excuse the amateurish photo editing.

[Justin Case]

Yet another depressing tale Mate tells me his ancient neighbour has scrapped a very nice 18 year old Polo against a new Panda, because of his wife's arthritis. Looks like the tight-fisted old git would have been quite happy to let his wife suffer for the sake of what would in practice been just a few hundred squid. Perhaps the scheme should be changed so that anyone who uses it should lose their licence, as their terminal lack of judgement shows them unsafe to be let loose on the roads.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

The BMW dealer in Balckpool has gone one better they have a cubed red car, by the looks of the wheels probably a mk 4 escort parked next to a nice shiny BMW mini.

I suppose in the interests of preserving brand image at least they havent cubed an old 3 series or pre-BMW Cooper, but I cant see many mk4 Escrote owners trading up to a new BINI, £2k incentive or no.

That's the problem. It's not scratters trading in worthless old junk in, but slightly moneyed idiots who've no idea how good their existing car is and 'want a new one'.

[Guest]

How To Irritate a Car Dealer at a Classic Car Show

 

1. Take loads of pictures of their "scrappage scheme" motor (this is just a "best of" compilation, I took well over 20).

 

 

2. Take one picture of their most unsaleable car (note the 06-plate).

 

 

3. Get the hell out of Dodge.

[Richard]

Top Gear doesn't like scrappage. They talked about it specifically so they could say what a stupid idea it is. They mentioned the environmental argument, the subsidising of Korean imports and the independent garages losing out on work.I regularly complain about TG being aimed at women (and yes, I was watching it because my wife put it on) and pub bores but in this case it's a good thing. People listen to Clarkson.Incidentally, I've just spent almost the price of a new Hyundai to replace the windows in my house. Nearly all that money will stay in the country and the Treasury will receive nearly half of it by the time all involved have paid their taxes. Why don't I get £2000 to help a crisis-hit industry?

[IanF]

Incidentally, I've just spent almost the price of a new Hyundai to replace the windows in my house. Nearly all that money will stay in the country and the Treasury will receive nearly half of it by the time all involved have paid their taxes. Why don't I get £2000 to help a crisis-hit industry?

Heh -you're also helping them get a little nearer to their unachieveable CO2 targets as well...

[Pillock]

Scrappage Saxo? WTF?Not that I like the things - I have the 'pleasure' of driving one like that every day, in Metallic Piss colour. But that's a facelift so, 2000+ I think.It's light, it has decent economy and a small engine. It probably gets much the same MPG as one of the 09 cars they're trying to shift with all their added bulk. So why on earth crush it?

[pogweasel]

Incidentally, I've just spent almost the price of a new Hyundai to replace the windows in my house. Nearly all that money will stay in the country and the Treasury will receive nearly half of it by the time all involved have paid their taxes. Why don't I get £2000 to help a crisis-hit industry?

You should have taken a few weeks off work & got it for nowt - the govt are good for some things:Because in March / April / May I was only working 2 days a week, I had to go down to the depressing Job Centre in order that my NI contributions were kept up to date (Didn't get much else out of the experience). A bi-product of this was that we were then eligable for a government sponsered grant and so on monday we are getting the whole house re-plumbed, gratis. Boiler scrappage FTW.

[whitevanman]

Incidentally, I've just spent almost the price of a new Hyundai to replace the windows in my house. Nearly all that money will stay in the country and the Treasury will receive nearly half of it by the time all involved have paid their taxes. Why don't I get £2000 to help a crisis-hit industry?

You should have taken a few weeks off work & got it for nowt - the govt are good for some things:Because in March / April / May I was only working 2 days a week, I had to go down to the depressing Job Centre in order that my NI contributions were kept up to date (Didn't get much else out of the experience). A bi-product of this was that we were then eligable for a government sponsered grant and so on monday we are getting the whole house re-plumbed, gratis. Boiler scrappage FTW.

Nice one.....wish we had a hand clapping smiley on here

[pogweasel]

Might as well make the most of it, eh!All the rat-faced tracksuited skinks who frequent there obviously get well looked after, you know £100 a week JSA, £500 a month housing benefit, council tax benefit, income support etc, all of which just gets spunked on drugs, cider and Richmond King Size, but if you have actually worked at all ever, forget it!Because if you have paid tax & NI, then you are entitled to LESS than those who haven't, and are also made ineligable for most other benefits, and you can't get HB if you have a mortgage... it's incredible really and you can see why this nation has a problem with generation after generation of nasty little peasants who will always get more from the system than they can hope for from working. And don't start me off on the 'Jobcentre', which is a complete misnomer, it should be the 'don't want a jobcentre' as they are there only to make sure that you HAVEN'T worked, rubber stamp your doler book and send you away... they do f*ck all to get folk into work from what I saw. It's a very unpleasant experience and one I would not wish on anyone.... a few weeks was more than enough for me.

[vicsmith]

As Pillock said, I think the facelift Saxo began in 2000, so that particular one will probably just be a normal trade in posing as a scrappage car, and I really wouldn`t have thought they`d be scrapping it without the government grand, they`ll be taking the auction`s £500 after indemnities.Still with scrappage gobbling up interesting old cars with a seemingly voracious appetite - notwithstanding the Riley`s salavation and the fact that a lot of these cars would perhaps have only been less visibly scrapped before long anyway - perhaps if a Fiat dealer is going to have a stand at a classic car show it might have been prudent to not mention the word scrap in such large letters, and maybe borrow a mint 131 or something to display in the middle instead.

[woolleyiain]

We've got it in the US now. There's an age limit of 25 years though, so we'll see how it goes....

[whitevanman]

Might as well make the most of it, eh!All the rat-faced tracksuited skinks who frequent there obviously get well looked after, you know £100 a week JSA, £500 a month housing benefit, council tax benefit, income support etc, all of which just gets spunked on drugs, cider and Richmond King Size, but if you have actually worked at all ever, forget it!Because if you have paid tax & NI, then you are entitled to LESS than those who haven't, and are also made ineligable for most other benefits, and you can't get HB if you have a mortgage... it's incredible really and you can see why this nation has a problem with generation after generation of nasty little peasants who will always get more from the system than they can hope for from working. And don't start me off on the 'Jobcentre', which is a complete misnomer, it should be the 'don't want a jobcentre' as they are there only to make sure that you HAVEN'T worked, rubber stamp your doler book and send you away... they do f*ck all to get folk into work from what I saw. It's a very unpleasant experience and one I would not wish on anyone.... a few weeks was more than enough for me.

AH.... your bitter and twisted then.............I tried using the job centre last October when my contract ended................exactly the same experiance, decided to not worry about Ni contributions, stayed off the radar and managed to sort something out for myself..as you say no use at all if you want a job..................and I've got it all again in October this year

[Father Ted]

Some stuff about lowlifes and the benefits system, which Ill get onto in a minute and Boiler scrappage FTW.

Wild horses and the promise of a weekend of wild doggy doggy style sex with Anneka Rice and Carol Vordeman with a giant tub of swarfega would not persuade me to part with my Baxi gravity fed heating system. It may be old, it may (alledgedly) be inefficient, but it has 2 movng parts in the entire system (gas valve and water pump) and because of its set up costs me less than my neighbours newish Woooster combisshite to run, and has broken down less in 14 years than Jons has in 3 years. I did replumb in 22mm dropping to 15mm a few years ago as the whole system was previously on microbore, but that is all.

 

Give me an old fashioned primatic gravity fed heating system over one of those new fangled combi's any day. I suppose its like Boilahshite!

 

Anyway - benefits.

 

The whole system is seriously screwed. The wife found herself with no work and despite being self employed and paying all her NICo's she was told to get bent and whistle dixie - yet i deal with chavtacular scuzzballs who have the audacity to tell me they are going to have another baby because child one is now approaching 16 and thy will stop getting their life of riley paid for when said child of 16 leaves home because she too is up the duff and setting out on her life of burburry pram pushing fag in gob council flat ownership.

 

Personally (If I rulled the world) I would remove hard cash from the benefits system and replace it with food, clothing, fuel (heating) housing, milk and travel vouchers - or even subsiise UK farmers by buying meat and veg and supplying this to people on long term benefits that way, no one starves, goes cold or homeless - but there is more encouragement to actually get out there andd work. I'd even let them have a can of Makestons stout every day if they wanted.....

[pompei]

This should probably be in the Miserable Old Bastard Complaining thread but anyway - I lost my job at the back end of 2007 and had to do the Job Centre Experience. I'd never signed on since I was a student in the holidays (and even then I worked for part of the time) and I must say it was the most soul destroying experience. To be fair to the JC staff, they were pleasant enough to me but dealing with that crowd of fucking no-hopers every day must sap the life blood out of you. And as you say, not a scrap of help. Beloved is a midwife so she sees knock-off knob-head extended families and theit knocked up women first hand (though unfortunately for her it's not their hands she has to attend to) A dismal experience at times.

[Pillock]

Personally (If I rulled the world) I would remove hard cash from the benefits system and replace it with food, clothing, fuel (heating) housing, milk and travel vouchers - or even subsiise UK farmers by buying meat and veg and supplying this to people on long term benefits that way, no one starves, goes cold or homeless - but there is more encouragement to actually get out there andd work. I'd even let them have a can of Makestons stout every day if they wanted.....

I'm right with you there. I know it's not benefits, but I'm paying CSA to my whore of an ex-wife knowing full well that 20% gets spent on kiddie stuff, and 80% goes on KFC to feed her fat face, and bottles of wine so she doesn't get woken up by that pesky crying in the night. I'd much rather dish out Mothercare vouchers and groceries but no, it's gotta be cold hard cash.But I look out the window here and there's people who haven't worked in years, have no intention of working either, walking down the road supping Tennants Super at 10am. Occasionally you'll see them with a crutch or neck brace - this is when I assume they're getting another sicknote or off to the jobless centre.I can just imagine 16-year old Britney though, who the council have juct moved into a flat with her two kids, Courtney and Britney (she ran out of ideas). Expecting a nice giro, she's surprised when the man from the council drops off a shopping bag with vegetables and meat in it. Taking a potato out, she stares at it for a while wondering what it's going to do....