Ford Transit mk2 carburettor choices. Advice pls!

[danthecapriman]

Check the engine code  as its probably a low compression 2.0  , if it is  you wont see any benefit from an uprated carb  but it will guzzle a lot more 

 

Engine code is stamped into the bottom lug on the block exhaust side  

 

NE , NET  is High Compression     NAE ,NAT  is low compression  

 

These are great carbs

 

 

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WEBER-34-ICH-CARB-CARBURETTOR-FORD-TRANSIT-P100-PICKUP-1-6-REPLACES-VV-/160844094207?fits=Car+Make%3AFord&hash=item25730e1aff:g:8CMAAOSw7ThUnXQD

Just had a look at the engine code. It was covered in oily scum and took a bit of digging to read but, as it should be it's a low compression 2.0 pinto. Engine code is NAT.

 

So, is it going to be worth bothering with a 32/36?

Bearing in mind the pretty high costs of buying all the bits needed in addition to the carb.

 

 

A long shot but would the VV respond to a bit of a clean and replacing the diaphragm?

Or forget that nasty ebay scam site and have a twin choke for single money.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/WEBER-CARBURETTOR-GENUINE-FORD-PINTO/dp/B00QX1V7MK/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1471165520&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=WEBER+34+ford

Tbh, I really don't think trying to rebuild the VV is time/money well spent. They were problematic from new and were regularly replaced. That's why weber developed the replacement kits for them. On a Transit I'd be inclined to leave it be all the time it's running well, once it stops running well it wants changing I think.

[Stixy]

Just had a look at the engine code. It was covered in oily scum and took a bit of digging to read but, as it should be it's a low compression 2.0 pinto. Engine code is NAT.

 

So, is it going to be worth bothering with a 32/36?

Bearing in mind the pretty high costs of buying all the bits needed in addition to the carb.

 

 

 

 

 

Tbh no the LC 2.0  is only 74 bhp   so wont have enough "suck" vac for a standard 2.0 carb to work correctly and a 1.6 weber wont provide enough fuel  and you will end up giving it more boot to make it go .  .

 

A working VV is a good carb and generaly as long as the shafts arnt sloppy and worn  a new set of diaphragms will sort them out  but avoid cheap ones  ..

 

The best alternative i have found is the weber 34ich conversion kit .  

[danthecapriman]

Tbh no the LC 2.0  is only 74 bhp   so wont have enough "suck" vac for a standard 2.0 carb to work correctly and a 1.6 weber wont provide enough fuel  and you will end up giving it more boot to make it go .  .

 

A working VV is a good carb and generaly as long as the shafts arnt sloppy and worn  a new set of diaphragms will sort them out  but avoid cheap ones  ..

 

The best alternative i have found is the weber 34ich conversion kit .

 

Fair enough. I did wonder if I'd be wasting my money with it being a low compression lump. What you've said does make sense, if it was a normal 2.0 pinto I'd have no problem putting 32/36 on it but I've never done it with a low compression one. There's no point spending serious coin on some nice kit if it's not going to do much.

 

I'm not a fan of the VV myself! I think I'll save myself a lot of money and buy one of the 34ich kits for it.

[fordperv]

That's a bummer it's a low comp, for some reason I presumed you had a regular high comp as it was hit and miss what these had

[danthecapriman]

That's a bummer it's a low comp, for some reason I presumed you had a regular high comp as it was hit and miss what these had

Yeah I know! I had assumed it would be a low comp but never bothered to actually check. Sadly this confirms it though.

But, there is an even worse variant of the low comp pinto fitted to Transits! Apparently if you've got one with the code NUT it's a special economical variant of the 2.0 low comp engine which develops something like 57hp! From a 2.0! I'm just glad it's not that one! Though I think I'd know about it by now just from driving it.

 

I could swap engines to a normal pinto, say a 205 block 2.0 but the one I've got is such low mileage and it's really in great nik so it'd be a waste to dump it. In a way it's saved me a lot of money as I'll just get the 34ich kit and swap to a manual choke but I really fancied seeing what the 32/36 would do in a commercial!

[Stixy]

To get the full benefit of a standard pinto idealy you would need to up the diff ratio as they turn first gear into a crawler ratio ,  Look for a scrap ambulance .

 

The low comp unit was fitted because " you cant pull a cart with a racehorse "  but it means you have an engine which isnt stressed at all and will plod forever.

 

Just laugh at the morons on ebay paying silly money for 2.0 pinto's when they have a VV carb fitted  thinking they are getting an RS2000 engine 

[simmo]

My 190 mark 3 Transit has a single choke Weber with a manual choke and its fine.  In my view a twin choke would give it more performance but the mpg would noise dive.

[danthecapriman]

My 190 mark 3 Transit has a single choke Weber with a manual choke and its fine. In my view a twin choke would give it more performance but the mpg would noise dive.

That's good to know, if your 190 is ok then mine should be. Mines a 100L so a bit smaller and lighter than a 190.

 

 

To get the full benefit of a standard pinto idealy you would need to up the diff ratio as they turn first gear into a crawler ratio , Look for a scrap ambulance .

 

The low comp unit was fitted because " you cant pull a cart with a racehorse " but it means you have an engine which isnt stressed at all and will plod forever.

 

Just laugh at the morons on ebay paying silly money for 2.0 pinto's when they have a VV carb fitted thinking they are getting an RS2000 engine

This ones great for torque, which I guess was the idea behind the low comp units. It will go up hill in top gear and easily hold 30 mph without struggling for a change down a gear. I'm actually pretty impressed with how well it goes for such a big van. All my previous Transits have been 2.5 DI engines so I wasn't sure about the pinto engine in one, I've got to say it's perfectly adequate.

 

 

Anyway, thanks guys for the help with this. You've stopped me wasting my money!

[fordperv]

To get the full benefit of a standard pinto idealy you would need to up the diff ratio as they turn first gear into a crawler ratio , Look for a scrap ambulance .

 

The low comp unit was fitted because " you cant pull a cart with a racehorse " but it means you have an engine which isnt stressed at all and will plod forever.

 

Just laugh at the morons on ebay paying silly money for 2.0 pinto's when they have a VV carb fitted thinking they are getting an RS2000 engine

My mate Carl has the best use for these low comp bottom ends, he buys them fits a cossy head etc and has a bit of "cheap" fun, well they are cheaper to buy than a YB crank etc he only runs them to stage 1 at the high, to be fair they hold together well

[Vince70]

I would go for a twin choke Webber only because my mate told me back in the 80s that he fitted one to his 1100 popular plus Escort Mk2 which he pilfered from a scrap 1300gt Mk1 Escort and the car was then capable of speeds in excess of 130 mph along the Sidcup bypass.

 

But his car was a special lightweight version with no floors or sills and handmade cornflake packet extended arches so he might of been telling Porky pies.

[AMC Rebel]

1 3/4" SU.

Or a pair of 40 DCOEs.

Obviously.

^ This - twin 40s or 45s FTW

 

Back in the day my MA had a 1.6 Capri with VV carb - it had been fitted with manual choke by a previous owner and it ran dog rough.  I removed the manual choke and replaced it with the proper auto choke bits off a scrapper and that made it run fine - clearly this isn't going to work with yours, but I think the VV gets a bad rap that's not always 100% fair.