Interesting car for daughter No.1

[MarvinsMom]

thing to remember is that the metro was designed in 1975-76, and as such will not be as strong as a modern car.

 

when the metro was designed the only crash test it needed to pass was the 30mph square on test. there was no requirement for a side impact crash, such was the 1972 regulations. the mini which was designed without any crash testing needed, though it too passed these tests when BL carried them out.

 

and this will be the same with all old, classic cars. they will not come out well of a heavy shunt!

 

currently they are crashing them off centre at 45mph, or what ever it is in them new fangled kilometre things. and there are side impacts to design for.

 

there are some real horrors on youtube, the 1997 metro crash (which the car wasn't designed for) is pretty bad, as is the vw type 2 tests. i've never seen a vehicle concertina up like those do! there are also some wierd and strange things from russia and china, those are absolutely horrific, especially for a modern, new today car.

[FakeConcern]

thing to remember is that the metro was designed in 1975-76, and as such will not be as strong as a modern car.

 

when the metro was designed the only crash test it needed to pass was the 30mph square on test. there was no requirement for a side impact crash, such was the 1972 regulations. the mini which was designed without any crash testing needed, though it too passed these tests when BL carried them out.

 

and this will be the same with all old, classic cars. they will not come out well of a heavy shunt!

 

currently they are crashing them off centre at 45mph, or what ever it is in them new fangled kilometre things. and there are side impacts to design for.

 

there are some real horrors on youtube, the 1997 metro crash (which the car wasn't designed for) is pretty bad, as is the vw type 2 tests. i've never seen a vehicle concertina up like those do! there are also some wierd and strange things from russia and china, those are absolutely horrific, especially for a modern, new today car.

I think that's the point really,do I want my daughter in that? Perhaps the Pug 206 or 207 is the way to go after all.

[HH-R]

The infamous Rover 100 crash test had the benefit of side impact bars and "benefit " of airbag which the Metros never got.

[MarvinsMom]

that the odd thing, austin metros that were going to be shipped abroad were fitted with impact beams in the doors at the factory!!

 

the shell couldn't cope with the increased speed of the impact, as i remember from school physics, speed was always squared, so the car was having to absorb 4 times the energy in the newer crash tests.

 

it wasn't just the metro that showed poorly in those tests, the citroen AX, fiat cinquicento and i think a popular bmw (5 series?) also folded right up. and those were much new models!

[SiC]

Perhaps the Pug 206 or 207 is the way to go after all.

I'd rather have a early 2000 Clio than a early 2000 Peugeot 206. Early 2000 Peugeots were when they first started multiplexing the electronics and they weren't entirely successful at it...

[MarvinsMom]

when Josie over the road from us leaned to drive, her father bought her a 205. 

 

proper pov spec model, an XL i think, with a small petrol engine,

 

fast forward 6 months, she punted the pug in against a fiat punto. only to find after running about in the fiat for a week or so that she preferred the 205!!

[Longblackcoat]

Got my daughter a Panda Mk 2. A good enough balance between little and easy to drive and strength. Can get them now for £1000.

[sierraman]

I'd seriously suggest a Focus. Cheap on parts, tyres etc, good to drive, cheap insurance etc. I'll get shot down in flames here but if you are wanting a car to do the usual go to work stuff going out in it at weekend I can't think of anything that does as much as well.

[sierraman]

Stop the press, we have a winner*

 

Mondeo mk2.jpg

 

 

£99 deposit, no more to pay ever. Well, not to me anyhow.

I had one of those, kept it for 7 years, bought it for £550 sold it 7 years on for £275 put another 70k on it. Probably best car I've had.

[SiC]

Only allowed 1 friend, but kinda cute little car and very girly:

https://www.gumtree.com/p/vauxhall/2005-vauxhall-tigra-1.4-i-16v-2dr-convertible-fsh-long-mot-only-£1400/1152560888

 

 

Mostly a Corsa underneath afaik.

[Bobthebeard]

Dog says...Yawn...

 

Not found a suitable car yet?

[gordonbennet]

Well, my PITA, sorry, daughter, has just been round and sure enough she's ordered and deposited a brand spanking new effin Civic typeR turbo thingy, due end of March...apparently a WRX STi didn't feel quite as fast or nimble, so Honda got it, fook me.

 

So there you are FC, just get your bundle of trouble to follow the superb * example of mine.

 

Where's the Jamesons...hic.

[SiC]

Well, my PITA, sorry, daughter, has just been round and sure enough she's ordered and deposited a brand spanking new effin Civic typeR turbo thingy, due end of March...apparently a WRX STi didn't feel quite as fast or nimble, so Honda got it, fook me.

 

So there you are FC, just get your bundle of trouble to follow the superb * example of mine.

 

Where's the Jamesons...hic.

Well at least she's supporting British manufacturing

 

As a nearly 30yr old male, I have to totally disagree with you. Civic type-R is ace and I would have one any day over a Scooby. They're past their best now imo.

[Timewaster]

Not what a father wants to hear I know but a girl in a mad fast car?

 

Hnnnnnnnng!

 

There used to be a woman around here, probably early 30s, not bad I suppose but when I saw her getting out of an Evo8.... Wow.

 

I thought of nothing else for a week.

 

This was of course before I met the lovely Mrs TW.

[gordonbennet]

No to be fair it was a hard decision for her, many things she preferred about the Scoob, not least the 4WD and the interior, but even though it was cheaper (kinell, the difference in price alone buys most of us a fleet) it comes with £500 VED which is permanent, and the servicing which Honda are doing 5 years @ £500, was way more expensive, plus only 3 year warranty on STi...

 

Had the Scoob been a match on servicing, warranty, VED, i reckon she'd have gone for that which i'd have preferred for various reasons but its her money, she earns it and its what she wants.

 

There you go FC, get yours down to the Honda showroom, job done.

[FakeConcern]

She seems to have gone off the boil with this! I offered to look at the Metro & Twingo this weekend with her, but a combination of her working on Saturday & CBA on Sunday meant my time was taken up fitting new radiators in the house. Mrs Concern was pleased anyway.

[HH-R]

Is her Clio knackered? I'd be tempted to keep it. I have quite a soft spot for them for some reason.

 

Anyway, the thinking man's £1000 5 door car is a Kia Rio.

[FakeConcern]

Is her Clio knackered? I'd be tempted to keep it. I have quite a soft spot for them for some reason.

 

Anyway, the thinking man's £1000 5 door car is a Kia Rio.

The Clio is getting that way and looks a mess with rusty arches and bad lacquer peel. She does like the Clio, but fancies something different if she doesn't keep it. She would like a smart looking car really. I showed her this

It's £1850 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-Volkswagen-Scirocco-Mk2-GTII-Metallic-Black-/191795754878?hash=item2ca7eaf77e%3Ag%3A3K8AAOSwoydWrie~&clk_rvr_id=976171944018&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

 

It looks nice, but would something like this really be up to 60 or so miles a day & be reliable? I don't know if it would be good to advise her for this sort of thing or the newest Pug 206/207 she could afford or wanted to pay for.

[gordonbennet]

If that Scirroc hasn't got power steering, you'd better get daughter a Bullworker and a full set of weights and get her in training cos she'll need muscles like the bloody Terminator to park it, the ones i've driven have been shocking how heavy they are, good looking motor though.

 

MiL of the time had a Diesel Golf 2 with no power, and that was just as bad, i ended up putting 40 odd psi in the front tyres so she could steer the thing.

[FakeConcern]

If that Scirroc hasn't got power steering, you'd better get daughter a Bullworker and a full set of weights and get her in training cos she'll need muscles like the bloody Terminator to park it, the ones i've driven have been shocking how heavy they are, good looking motor though.

 

MiL of the time had a Diesel Golf 2 with no power, and that was just as bad, i ended up putting 40 odd psi in the front tyres so she could steer the thing.

Good point, I hadn't thought of that. All the cars I had without power steering were light, Minis & Metros. Although now I think about it the Mk1 Cortina I learned in didn't have it either.

Apart from that, do we think it would be ok for commuting etc?

[gordonbennet]

It would be as good as anything else for commuting, but a manual windowed Scirroc i expect might be sans power steering and that is something even died in wool oldies wouldn't bee keen to return to.

 

Is that lime green thing at the back some sort of vaccum servo for the brakes cos i can't recall where the brake servo is located, hopefully someone else does.

[FakeConcern]

Don't know what the lime green thing is,  you can see the brake servo behind the master cylinder on the right. She's used to wind up windows in the Clio.

[FakeConcern]

Well just to bring this up to date, if I knew how to edit the thread title, I'd change it to "Not that interesting, but really nice good value car for daughter No1".

By the time she decided she'd like the Scirroco, it had sold. The Metro was vetoed by Mrs concern on safety & reliability grounds (probably a good idea!) the Twingo was ruled out because of LHD. By this time the Clio was dying, One tyre borderline legal and a CVJ making really bad clonking noises even in a straight line never mind turning. Anyway we looked at a one owner fully stamped Pug 207 in metallic red with Climate and a panoramic roof on a 58 plate. The dealer in Hackney had it up for £1895 and we negotiated £200 for the rusty dying Clio with a Months test on it. Seemed like a bargain to me, but Daughter No1 wasn't sure. It was only when my car (C4 VTS) was smashed up (see grumpy thread) and she thought I wouldn't be in a position to look at more cars with her that she put a deposit on it. The interior is pretty grubby, from kids I think & there's a minor scrape on the bumper & wing, but otherwise very tidy. We picked it up today & the dealer rather sweetly gave her £20 back for petrol (although it showed 25 miles left on that tank) as the light was on. I then felt guilty about the CVJ, I thought the thing was going to pop out when we turned around!

 

 

[SiC]

The front of them is the automotive equivalent of:

 

Good choice imo. Modern, Safe, looks decent and cheap, easy to get parts.

[FakeConcern]

The front of them is the automotive equivalent of:

 

Good choice imo. Modern, Safe, looks decent and cheap, easy to get parts.

In the end that is just it, a compromise, but for good reason. It was also one of the cheapest I've seen.

[SiC]

Under 2k for a working 8 year old car is a bargain whatever way you look at it!

[FakeConcern]

We also had a laugh on the way there when we spotted this Fiesta on the M25

 

 

[scaryoldcortina]

^ Never failed a MoT for numberplate spacing.

 

Has failed for brakes and tyres though!

[Eddie Honda]

Well just to bring this up to date, if I knew how to edit the thread title, I'd change it to "Not that interesting, but really nice good value car for daughter No1".

At the bottom right of your very first post, there will be to the left of "MultiQuote" and "Quote" a button with "Edit" on it, click that and edit the thread title - you'll need to use the FULL editor.

 

Anyway we looked at a one owner fully stamped Pug 207

Congratulations djimbob for making the first mention of a 207, back in post 109! http://autoshite.com/topic/23096-interesting-car-for-daughter-no1/page-4?do=findComment&comment=915349

[FakeConcern]

^ Never failed a MoT for numberplate spacing.

 

Has failed for brakes and tyres though!

I thought you meant the Pug for a minute!