VEG friendly motors.... What runs on what?

[DodgeRover]

Filter it first and check it actually supports combustion...

[Heidel_Kakao]

Filter it first and check it actually supports combustion...

I was going to filter it through some fine gauze. How do I check it supports combustion though?

[M'coli]

Pop a bit in a tin can or similar, use some sort of wick like a kitchen towel or dry snotrag, try to light the wick.

[DodgeRover]

Filter it through several J clothes arranged in a filter funnel, you don't really want to be putting bits of worn transmission bands through your injection system..

[Heidel_Kakao]

Filter it through several J clothes arranged in a filter funnel, you don't really want to be putting bits of worn transmission bands through your injection system..

 

Something like these? I have plenty of fresh cloths like that so if that will provide sufficient filtration that's good.

 

I practiced changing my fuel filter at the weekend and it was really easy. Very accessible as the filter housing is mounted on the battery tray.

[DodgeRover]

That should do it, in an ideal world order a 5 & 1 micron filter socks from ebay

[Lacquer Peel]

The 2.5 TD always used a Bosch pump in the XM, the 2.1 started with Bosch and changed to a Lucas EPIC.

ATF is fine as a fuel.

 

If you want to filter more than the ATF down the line I recommend a "sock" type filter

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172875547332

[Heidel_Kakao]

The 2.5 TD always used a Bosch pump in the XM, the 2.1 started with Bosch and changed to a Lucas EPIC.

ATF is fine as a fuel.

 

If you want to filter more than the ATF down the line I recommend a "sock" type filter

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172875547332

 

Cool, the same seller has a 10, 5, and 1 Micron set for £11 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-FILTER-SOCK-10-5-1-BIO-DIESEL-VEG-OIL-W-V-O-SVO-COOKING-OIL-BIODIESEL/182778566623

 

I can see myself getting sucked into this running on veg malarkey.  When I drove to Holland in July in the Subara I burnt £150 in petrol, I have already started trying to work out how cheap I could do the same journey running on veg in the XM.

 

Birmingham to Scotland in November should be my first proper test of a long veg fueled journey. It turns out my mother has a Costco card so I am going down there on Friday to see how cheap their veg oil is.

[Lacquer Peel]

Bear in mind you don't have to filter new oil but it's good to have options if you find cheap or free WVO.

[Heidel_Kakao]

Bear in mind you don't have to filter new oil but it's good to have options if you find cheap or free WVO.

I would like to filter the used ATF properly before I use it as I drained it into a dirty bowl when I was changing it as at the time I had no idea I would be later using it as fuel

 

I guess most chip shops have a disposal arrangement in place already? Or someone will have already claimed their waste oil? There is a chippy 30 seconds walk from my house so I may ask them what they do with their old oil next time I am in there.

[chaseracer]

Veg/dino mix OK in a Lucas-pumped 205?  Asking for a friend... 

[Supernaut]

Veg/dino mix OK in a Lucas-pumped 205?  Asking for a friend... 

I think some people with Lucas pumps run them on a 50/50 mix, but they aren't as up to it as a Bosch pump. I did the same in my old 306 before converting it to Bosch.

 

Basically, run it on 50/50, but if it goes tits up, shove a Bosch in instead.

[M'coli]

I've done 20,000 miles 50/50 in a Lucas-pumped XUD.

[Lacquer Peel]

I would like to filter the used ATF properly before I use it as I drained it into a dirty bowl when I was changing it as at the time I had no idea I would be later using it as fuel

 

I guess most chip shops have a disposal arrangement in place already? Or someone will have already claimed their waste oil? There is a chippy 30 seconds walk from my house so I may ask them what they do with their old oil next time I am in there.

Yes most places have commercial collectors and are reluctant to change. It's worth pouncing on places if they change owners or are new businesses.

Set up an alert on Gumtree, some people have a surplus they want to get rid of or have stopped making biodiesel.

[DodgeRover]

Go round your local builders cafés - none of the ones I used to eat in had a collection set up and would happily give you all their waste oil if you dropped in for a bacon butty. I used to get between 50 and 100l a week

[Cleon-Fonte]

I've done 20,000 miles 50/50 in a Lucas-pumped XUD.

 

Same.

[Daviemck2006]

I've just bought a 210000 mile 1.9 xud xantia with bosh pump and work in a chippy. What do I need to do to the waste veggie to make it work? I'm totally new to this veggie malarkie

 

 

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[Lankytim]

I've just bought a 210000 mile 1.9 xud xantia with bosh pump and work in a chippy. What do I need to do to the waste veggie to make it work? I'm totally new to this veggie malarkie

 

 

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Filter this fooK out of it basically and off you go.

[Daviemck2006]

What % of veg? Is it better with some diesel in it?

 

 

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[Lankytim]

My XM would run on 100% filtered clean waste veg, even in winter but many others like to add 10% diesel up to 50%ish in winter. It varies from car to car.

[Lacquer Peel]

Filter this fooK out of it basically and off you go.

Settle and filter.

[Lacquer Peel]

My XM would run on 100% filtered clean waste veg, even in winter but many others like to add 10% diesel up to 50%ish in winter. It varies from car to car.

My Inca SDI is running on 100% WVO just now, but running 100% oil is a curse if you live somewhere that's cold in the winter, or if we have a bad winter countrywide.

If the fuel delivery side is marginal, eg the pipes and filter housing that can cause issues too

[Lankytim]

Yeah, i was chasing air leaks for a while but once I got that sorted I was good to go. The air leaks weren't noticeable on pump diesel or bio.

[chaseracer]

Veg/dino mix OK in a Lucas-pumped 205?  Asking for a friend... 

 

This morning, I dropped four litres of Tesco's finest veg oil into just over half a tank of squashed dinosaurs.

 

So far, so good.

[Lacquer Peel]

My Lucas pumped Polo 1.9D tolerated 80% veg, 20% diesel

[chaseracer]

Useful to know.  I'm starting gently!

[forddeliveryboy]

Chances are there'll be pump failure on 80/20 veg if it's the most common variety (GM soya) and there are no mods made to the fuel system. As a minimum for high veg% + Lucas I'd suggest a fphe to thin the fuel, even at 50/50.

 

I've done it and got away with it even sub-zero, but it was rapeseed oil and with a fphe. The savings are marginal when running new oil even at 95% unless you're doing high miles/poor mpg.

[forddeliveryboy]

I've just bought a 210000 mile 1.9 xud xantia with bosh pump and work in a chippy. What do I need to do to the waste veggie to make it work? I'm totally new to this veggie malarkie

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It must be dry as well as polished clean, google 'hot pan test wvo'. Dirty oil will clog the lines/pump/filters, damp oil will cause terminal ftp at some indeterminate point in the future, directly related to how much you need the car at that moment.

 

See http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/mybbforum/ - there's little they don't know.

[D Spares & Tyres]

Bosch pumped XUDs run on cooking oil, LHM, gearbox oil( manual and auto) oil from oil cooled welders, paint mixed with petrol, goose fat, paraffin

 

An old petrol Fiesta that I was going to scrap but had a bit of tax and test on it got tried on thinners. It ran but pinked badly. 50/50 wasn't too bad. I got rid of lots of waste thinners with that old thing