Shiters opinions on the CITROEN XANTIA??

[Lankytim]

Hi Shitters,

 

I've arranged to buy a 1999 HDi 90 Xantia. It needs a little fettling but looks OK. Does anybody here know their shit when it comes to the big cit? Are they alright or crapola?

[Lankytim]

Hi Shitters,

 

I've arranged to buy a 1999 HDi 90 Xantia. It needs a little fettling but looks OK. Does anybody here know their shit when it comes to the big cit? Are they alright or crapola?

[Lacquer Peel]

They are great, I like mine, it's been very reliable for a scruffy old car.

French Car Forum is your friend.

[Lacquer Peel]

They are great, I like mine, it's been very reliable for a scruffy old car.

French Car Forum is your friend.

[messerschmitt owner]

Yep -FCF is your friend. Is that a 2.0litre hdi?

 

They seem to be a nice engine, and the one in my dispatch is pleasantly pokey but I have an extra 20cv under the bonnet!

[messerschmitt owner]

Yep -FCF is your friend. Is that a 2.0litre hdi?

 

They seem to be a nice engine, and the one in my dispatch is pleasantly pokey but I have an extra 20cv under the bonnet!

[Lankytim]

This one has come via the FCF, i'm already a member there. it's onlt a 90 but it has a tuning box for added MPG and BHP. Or something.

 

It is a 2.0 HDi.

[Lankytim]

This one has come via the FCF, i'm already a member there. it's onlt a 90 but it has a tuning box for added MPG and BHP. Or something.

 

It is a 2.0 HDi.

[gadgetgricey]

Hi there Tim.

 

Following me into the Xantia fold then , you wont be disappointed. Basic checks that the suspension goes up and down as it should, Hdi's normally start without any fuss in all weathers, even in the rough temps recently.

Some seem to have issues with the central locking on the back doors. Never fixed mine as it just does not work, so open and close as and when required.

Mk1 or Mk2? Mk1's can have issues with the blower motor stopping working (HRW stops at the same time), but its an easy fix via a relay mod on the ignition switch. Also if a Mk1 you can bypass the immobiliser quite easily if you choose, so you dont have to put the code in every time.

 

French Car Forum is very good for Xantia help, Citrojim and CitreonXM especially helpful.

 

Also have you seen this:

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... =7&t=43213

 

Quick installation and takes it from a 90bhp to a 110 bhp, with no difference in mpg. Got a similar one fitted to mine.

 

What is also quite scary is that I also have a Xantia breaker , so if you need any bits.

[gadgetgricey]

Hi there Tim.

 

Following me into the Xantia fold then , you wont be disappointed. Basic checks that the suspension goes up and down as it should, Hdi's normally start without any fuss in all weathers, even in the rough temps recently.

Some seem to have issues with the central locking on the back doors. Never fixed mine as it just does not work, so open and close as and when required.

Mk1 or Mk2? Mk1's can have issues with the blower motor stopping working (HRW stops at the same time), but its an easy fix via a relay mod on the ignition switch. Also if a Mk1 you can bypass the immobiliser quite easily if you choose, so you dont have to put the code in every time.

 

French Car Forum is very good for Xantia help, Citrojim and CitreonXM especially helpful.

 

Also have you seen this:

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... =7&t=43213

 

Quick installation and takes it from a 90bhp to a 110 bhp, with no difference in mpg. Got a similar one fitted to mine.

 

What is also quite scary is that I also have a Xantia breaker , so if you need any bits.

[messerschmitt owner]

an HDI is a Mk2

 

Not owned one yet and I fear by the time I might, I will be jumping into a C5 estate or a C6.

 

However, there are still lots about and if they were rubbish, there wouldn't be!

[messerschmitt owner]

an HDI is a Mk2

 

Not owned one yet and I fear by the time I might, I will be jumping into a C5 estate or a C6.

 

However, there are still lots about and if they were rubbish, there wouldn't be!

[240gl]

My Dad had a 1.8 16v 10 years ago. The grab bar on the Xantia dashboard was very useful for my Mum getting in and out. I thought that it was slightly gutless from a standing start on the steep hill that we had to set off from compared to my 1.9 405.

 

I put the Jamex foam panel filter from my 405 in the Xantia air box, which made a whole heap of difference to the performance.

[240gl]

My Dad had a 1.8 16v 10 years ago. The grab bar on the Xantia dashboard was very useful for my Mum getting in and out. I thought that it was slightly gutless from a standing start on the steep hill that we had to set off from compared to my 1.9 405.

 

I put the Jamex foam panel filter from my 405 in the Xantia air box, which made a whole heap of difference to the performance.

[Guest]

They are useful. Worth having.

[Guest]

They are useful. Worth having.

[Barry Cade]

I've had a few and would have a few more . Clutch cable plastic on the top of the clutch pedal is a real barsteward the first time though..rear calipers can be fun too. Bertone styling on the Mk1's is a design win for me too.

[Barry Cade]

I've had a few and would have a few more . Clutch cable plastic on the top of the clutch pedal is a real barsteward the first time though..rear calipers can be fun too. Bertone styling on the Mk1's is a design win for me too.

[dieselnutjob]

All 110 bhp 2.0 litre HDIs have a dual-mass-flywheel-of-death. Except for the Xantia....

 

Those old 2.0 litre 8 valve HDIs are pretty tough. You can easily disable the EGR (piece of sardine tin) or bypass the cat (straight pipe) and they won't complain. They normally even survive a snapped cambelt (they just break a couple of rocker arms). It used to be a big problem if the injectors went but now you can get them second hand.

 

Some tests to try.

 

Make sure that the powers steering works at idle with the engine hot. The pumps can be marginal.

 

Get the engine hot a accelerate hard. If you get a pinking noise between about 2000rpm and 3200rpm that goes quiet at higher revs, then injectors are knackered.

 

Make sure that the clutch doesn't slip because getting the gearbox out to change it is a sod.

[dieselnutjob]

All 110 bhp 2.0 litre HDIs have a dual-mass-flywheel-of-death. Except for the Xantia....

 

Those old 2.0 litre 8 valve HDIs are pretty tough. You can easily disable the EGR (piece of sardine tin) or bypass the cat (straight pipe) and they won't complain. They normally even survive a snapped cambelt (they just break a couple of rocker arms). It used to be a big problem if the injectors went but now you can get them second hand.

 

Some tests to try.

 

Make sure that the powers steering works at idle with the engine hot. The pumps can be marginal.

 

Get the engine hot a accelerate hard. If you get a pinking noise between about 2000rpm and 3200rpm that goes quiet at higher revs, then injectors are knackered.

 

Make sure that the clutch doesn't slip because getting the gearbox out to change it is a sod.

[dieselnutjob]

Make sure that the powers steering works at idle with the engine hot. The pumps can be marginal.

 

on second thoughts this is only Peugeots. On a Xantia the suspension/brakes/power steering are all of the same pump

[dieselnutjob]

Make sure that the powers steering works at idle with the engine hot. The pumps can be marginal.

 

on second thoughts this is only Peugeots. On a Xantia the suspension/brakes/power steering are all of the same pump

[dean36014]

Check the front strut tops for rust, they corrode away under the rubber covering. When the fail they push up through the inner wing and ruin the bonnet. Clutch clips are a weak point as mentioned previously, I've had two, and ran them both up to 150k with no problems.

[dean36014]

Check the front strut tops for rust, they corrode away under the rubber covering. When the fail they push up through the inner wing and ruin the bonnet. Clutch clips are a weak point as mentioned previously, I've had two, and ran them both up to 150k with no problems.

[mrcitroen]

I loved the Xantias I had. Last one was a 1999 110 HDi Exclusive which I owned from 1 year old until 2009. No issues whatsoever except the dreaded in tank lift pump going tits up & the cat collapsing internally & causing the car to have zero power. Before that I had a 1993 1.9TD that was just as reliable.

 

FCF are a really helpful bunch. The guys on there sorted me out on a few occasions.

 

Fantastic and way underrated cars! Still preferred my BX's though!!!

[mrcitroen]

I loved the Xantias I had. Last one was a 1999 110 HDi Exclusive which I owned from 1 year old until 2009. No issues whatsoever except the dreaded in tank lift pump going tits up & the cat collapsing internally & causing the car to have zero power. Before that I had a 1993 1.9TD that was just as reliable.

 

FCF are a really helpful bunch. The guys on there sorted me out on a few occasions.

 

Fantastic and way underrated cars! Still preferred my BX's though!!!

[wuvvum]

I've only ever had one Xantia - £150-worth of L-reg 1.8 LX. It was battered and dented, the paint had gone Pogweasel pink and the suspension was full of 20W50 but it never failed to start and drove fine (although it did take a bit longer to rise to its feet than it would have done on LHM). I liked it - would have another, but probably a MK1 with the old 1905 diesel engine rather than an HDI. Or a V6, of course - I'd imagine one of those would be fun.

[wuvvum]

I've only ever had one Xantia - £150-worth of L-reg 1.8 LX. It was battered and dented, the paint had gone Pogweasel pink and the suspension was full of 20W50 but it never failed to start and drove fine (although it did take a bit longer to rise to its feet than it would have done on LHM). I liked it - would have another, but probably a MK1 with the old 1905 diesel engine rather than an HDI. Or a V6, of course - I'd imagine one of those would be fun.

[meggersdog]

Great cars.Mine was a Mk1 TD. I did post photos of what happened to it in 2008 and the smashed windows and axe shaped holes in the bonnet were the only reasons it got scraped.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned about the HDi's is the multi-V belt.When worn this shreads and 9 out of 10 times the shreaded piece gets behind the cambelt cover.Yes it does usually only break a few followers when the shreaded rubber gets underneath the cambelt but whatever you can still breakdown over a 5 quid rubber belt.

[meggersdog]

Great cars.Mine was a Mk1 TD. I did post photos of what happened to it in 2008 and the smashed windows and axe shaped holes in the bonnet were the only reasons it got scraped.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned about the HDi's is the multi-V belt.When worn this shreads and 9 out of 10 times the shreaded piece gets behind the cambelt cover.Yes it does usually only break a few followers when the shreaded rubber gets underneath the cambelt but whatever you can still breakdown over a 5 quid rubber belt.