Cash for scrap ends soon

[michael1703]

As of 3rd December this year, you can no longer be paid in cash for scrap metal

 

The British Metals Recycling Association has brought in the ban and you will now be paid by cheque or bank transfer

 

But cars aren't covered by this, if cars were then we might see more cheap cars about and less Ebay adverts saying "starting this at scrap value" or "its worth £xxx as scrap etc) , but cars might come in under this too in the near future

 

 

 

 

 

 

Intersting quotes:

 

"Our members rely on a large number of small scrap metal merchants who buy traditionally from plumbers, farmers and the general public and this trade, for 150 years, has been conducted in cash. We're facing a large number of small businesses potentially going out of business and having no impact on the rate of metal theft in this country."

 

Ever seen a poor plumber or farmer?

 

The registration requirements that apply to "itinerant collectors" of scrap metal are poorly understood in the industry, local authorities and by police officers.

 

Itinerants collectors must register with their local authority as scrap metal dealers and unless in possession of a specific order permitting them to keep reduced records must maintain the full documentation, including a "police book" required by Section 2 of the Scrap Metal Dealers Act 1964. Furthermore, without a specific order they will not be permitted to pay cash for scrap from 3 December 2012.

 

 

 

itinerant collects is a nice word for them

[michael1703]

As of 3rd December this year, you can no longer be paid in cash for scrap metal

 

The British Metals Recycling Association has brought in the ban and you will now be paid by cheque or bank transfer

 

But cars aren't covered by this, if cars were then we might see more cheap cars about and less Ebay adverts saying "starting this at scrap value" or "its worth £xxx as scrap etc) , but cars might come in under this too in the near future

 

 

 

 

 

 

Intersting quotes:

 

"Our members rely on a large number of small scrap metal merchants who buy traditionally from plumbers, farmers and the general public and this trade, for 150 years, has been conducted in cash. We're facing a large number of small businesses potentially going out of business and having no impact on the rate of metal theft in this country."

 

Ever seen a poor plumber or farmer?

 

The registration requirements that apply to "itinerant collectors" of scrap metal are poorly understood in the industry, local authorities and by police officers.

 

Itinerants collectors must register with their local authority as scrap metal dealers and unless in possession of a specific order permitting them to keep reduced records must maintain the full documentation, including a "police book" required by Section 2 of the Scrap Metal Dealers Act 1964. Furthermore, without a specific order they will not be permitted to pay cash for scrap from 3 December 2012.

 

 

 

itinerant collects is a nice word for them

[Junkman]

What a superb piece of social engineering.

One couldn't make it up!

[Junkman]

What a superb piece of social engineering.

One couldn't make it up!

[RedSparrow]

I don't see the problem with this. However I'm sure an illegal trade will continue anyway.

[RedSparrow]

I don't see the problem with this. However I'm sure an illegal trade will continue anyway.

[autofive]

anyone without I.D. or a bank account will simply sell on to a middle man, just as stolen cable is sold on today

 

this 'legislation' will have zero effect on metal theft, and reduce the prices paid out by the yards.

[autofive]

anyone without I.D. or a bank account will simply sell on to a middle man, just as stolen cable is sold on today

 

this 'legislation' will have zero effect on metal theft, and reduce the prices paid out by the yards.

[Wilko220]

If it puts any sort of barrier or difficulty in the way of pikey metal thieves, however small, then it can only be a positive thing.

[Wilko220]

If it puts any sort of barrier or difficulty in the way of pikey metal thieves, however small, then it can only be a positive thing.

[dollywobbler]

If it puts any sort of barrier or difficulty in the way of pikey metal thieves, however small, then it can only be a positive thing.

 

Indeed. Thought the trial in the North East had proved that it made a difference.

[dollywobbler]

If it puts any sort of barrier or difficulty in the way of pikey metal thieves, however small, then it can only be a positive thing.

 

Indeed. Thought the trial in the North East had proved that it made a difference.

[autofive]

no

 

the police would like everyone to think it worked ( was only about I.D., not the cash part) but the truth is it didnt

 

stolen cable was simply passed on to a middleman, who stripped the insulation, then weighed in

[autofive]

no

 

the police would like everyone to think it worked ( was only about I.D., not the cash part) but the truth is it didnt

 

stolen cable was simply passed on to a middleman, who stripped the insulation, then weighed in

[TimothyClaypole]

They don't even ask for any documents at a supposed legal yard either, waste of money getting a waste licence.

[TimothyClaypole]

They don't even ask for any documents at a supposed legal yard either, waste of money getting a waste licence.

[willswitchengage]

no

 

the police would like everyone to think it worked ( was only about I.D., not the cash part) but the truth is it didnt

 

stolen cable was simply passed on to a middleman, who stripped the insulation, then weighed in

 

Thus removing an incentive for opportunists, decreasing "profit margins" on thefts, and making illegal dealing into an organised crime which will be easier to detect. It's a nice idea but I'm sure Branson and all the other train wankers will think of some new excuse for their incessant lateness.

[willswitchengage]

no

 

the police would like everyone to think it worked ( was only about I.D., not the cash part) but the truth is it didnt

 

stolen cable was simply passed on to a middleman, who stripped the insulation, then weighed in

 

Thus removing an incentive for opportunists, decreasing "profit margins" on thefts, and making illegal dealing into an organised crime which will be easier to detect. It's a nice idea but I'm sure Branson and all the other train wankers will think of some new excuse for their incessant lateness.

[autofive]

no

 

the police would like everyone to think it worked ( was only about I.D., not the cash part) but the truth is it didnt

 

stolen cable was simply passed on to a middleman, who stripped the insulation, then weighed in

 

Thus removing an incentive for opportunists, decreasing "profit margins" on thefts, and making illegal dealing into an organised crime which will be easier to detect. It's a nice idea but I'm sure Branson and all the other train wankers will think of some new excuse for their incessant lateness.

 

 

nope, it will make it harder to detect. as the majority of stolen goods will end up in the hands of a smaller amount of dealers, and those dealers will simply send it to southern ireland

[autofive]

no

 

the police would like everyone to think it worked ( was only about I.D., not the cash part) but the truth is it didnt

 

stolen cable was simply passed on to a middleman, who stripped the insulation, then weighed in

 

Thus removing an incentive for opportunists, decreasing "profit margins" on thefts, and making illegal dealing into an organised crime which will be easier to detect. It's a nice idea but I'm sure Branson and all the other train wankers will think of some new excuse for their incessant lateness.

 

 

nope, it will make it harder to detect. as the majority of stolen goods will end up in the hands of a smaller amount of dealers, and those dealers will simply send it to southern ireland

[RedSparrow]

It's all about how easy it is to shift on. Here in eastern europe metal theft is rife - several occurrences daily on the railways - because its dead easy to bung it in a lorry and drive it further east to other EU countries (as there are few border controls etc) for a few quid. Locals tell me the Gypsies are willing to risk their lives for it. Regular deaths on railways or falling off pylons. They will actually climb a bloody great pylon with a hacksaw to chop the Earth cable off the top.

[RedSparrow]

It's all about how easy it is to shift on. Here in eastern europe metal theft is rife - several occurrences daily on the railways - because its dead easy to bung it in a lorry and drive it further east to other EU countries (as there are few border controls etc) for a few quid. Locals tell me the Gypsies are willing to risk their lives for it. Regular deaths on railways or falling off pylons. They will actually climb a bloody great pylon with a hacksaw to chop the Earth cable off the top.

[Junkman]

It's all about how easy it is to shift on. Here in eastern europe metal theft is rife - several occurrences daily on the railways - because its dead easy to bung it in a lorry and drive it further east to other EU countries (as there are few border controls etc) for a few quid. Locals tell me the Gypsies are willing to risk their lives for it. Regular deaths on railways or falling off pylons. They will actually climb a bloody great pylon with a hacksaw to chop the Earth cable off the top.

 

Sounds like we are in for some funny Darwin Awards?

[Junkman]

It's all about how easy it is to shift on. Here in eastern europe metal theft is rife - several occurrences daily on the railways - because its dead easy to bung it in a lorry and drive it further east to other EU countries (as there are few border controls etc) for a few quid. Locals tell me the Gypsies are willing to risk their lives for it. Regular deaths on railways or falling off pylons. They will actually climb a bloody great pylon with a hacksaw to chop the Earth cable off the top.

 

Sounds like we are in for some funny Darwin Awards?