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'Inbetweener' Cars / Imminant future shite/classics


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#181 OFFLINE   The Reverend Bluejeans

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:37 PM

The classic car market has already decided what is classic, and what is not. That ship has sailed and we're* not on it.

 

If it's worth a lot of money (10 grand upwards) it's a classic. Mexico, 20000GXL, CX Prestige, XK150, 205GTI, 993C4 etc. Serious money.

 

If it's still worth nothing (Sxsxara, Peugeot 406 Rapist, an old Mondeo, E46 318Ci, Rover 75, Vectra, XJ40 then it's not. Light iron valued by weight.

 

Don't waste your time trying to work out what the next hot ticket is because there isn't one. Any value rise in some wanked 23 year old Jag will be used up keeping the fucking thing going.

 

 

* Well. Many moons ago I was given the rusty shell of a 1970 Escort Twin Cam. And since 2014 I've had the V5 for it. I have a window seat for the main event.  :-D


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:50 PM

My hot tip for the next blue oval 'classic' to be selling for 6 figures in years to come.

If you have £40k to spare, somewhere to store it away from thieves and are willing to play the long game. No, me neither

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#183 OFFLINE   The Reverend Bluejeans

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:53 PM

^Nobody else will be doing this of course..... :mrgreen:


MASTER RACE MOTORS.

 

1989 F  730i. Prestigious.

1998 R 318i Touring. Daily shitter.

1994 M 318Ti - Track whore

 

​2002 318Ci Convertible. E46 crap for breaking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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#184 ONLINE   Captain Furious

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 07:56 PM

There should be enough crazy buyers to go around.

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:04 PM

If it's worth a lot of money (10 grand upwards) it's a classic. Mexico, 20000GXL, CX Prestige, XK150, 205GTI, 993C4 etc. Serious money.

 

If it's still worth nothing (Sxsxara, Peugeot 406 Rapist, an old Mondeo, E46 318Ci, Rover 75, Vectra, XJ40. Light iron valued by weight.

 

 

Disagree - what is considered a 'classic' depends on personal opinion just as much as value. Not all cars considered "classic" (even 15 years ago) have still yet to hit the dizzy heights of £10k - Most of BL's offerings during the 1970's are still not worth half that amount.


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1986 Talbot Samba S - 1984 Talbot Horizon - 1974 Simca 1100 - 1987 Pug 205 XS - 1977 Reliant Scimitar - 1976 Reliant Scimitar - 1997 Pug 306 DTurbo - 1999 Skoda Felicia - 1994 VW Golf - 2000 Ford Cougar V6 X -  2003 Ford Focus Ghia 45k - 2005 Saab 9-3 Vector Sportwagon 196k (back on the road)

 

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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:27 PM

I’m sorry if people have discussed this and I am too tired to notice, but do people here see the Rover 25, 45 and 75 classic cars yet? They’re still really common (atleast they are in sunny old Nuneaton) but I always see them at classic car meets.

 

 

The 75 yes, because it was a well designed, good car to drive, elegant to look at, extremely comfortable inside and good ergonomics. Just avoid the 1.8!

 

I'd still need convincing to consider the 25 & 45 as classics for the time being - the 2nd gen 200/400 wasn't bad for 1989, a bit dull and unexciting to drive (though better than some of its rivals), but by the time the it evolved into the 25 in 1999 it was still using the front chassis half of the older model so was hopelessly out of date.

 

My brother's other half had an 02-plate 45 she bought from an old duffer - it was hideous on the road, it felt so old fashioned to drive compared to, say, a Focus or Astra G. 

 

Then again the 25/45probably follows in the spirit of BL, the Marina/Ital feels older to drive compared to a Viva HC or Cortina MkIII


Fleet History

1986 Talbot Samba S - 1984 Talbot Horizon - 1974 Simca 1100 - 1987 Pug 205 XS - 1977 Reliant Scimitar - 1976 Reliant Scimitar - 1997 Pug 306 DTurbo - 1999 Skoda Felicia - 1994 VW Golf - 2000 Ford Cougar V6 X -  2003 Ford Focus Ghia 45k - 2005 Saab 9-3 Vector Sportwagon 196k (back on the road)

 

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Talbot Sunbeam 1.6 with original engine & box - Shove-it with original engine & box - Talbot Samba - Triumph Dolly - Triumph 2000 = Pre-88 Pug 205 - AEC Mammoth Major - Allegro


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Posted 18 February 2018 - 08:54 PM

The 75 yes, because it was a well designed, good car to drive, elegant to look at, extremely comfortable inside and good ergonomics. Just avoid the 1.8!

I'd still need convincing to consider the 25 & 45 as classics for the time being - the 2nd gen 200/400 wasn't bad for 1989, a bit dull and unexciting to drive (though better than some of its rivals), but by the time the it evolved into the 25 in 1999 it was still using the front chassis half of the older model so was hopelessly out of date.

My brother's other half had an 02-plate 45 she bought from an old duffer - it was hideous on the road, it felt so old fashioned to drive compared to, say, a Focus or Astra G.

Then again the 25/45probably follows in the spirit of BL, the Marina/Ital feels older to drive compared to a Viva HC or Cortina MkIII


I can't imagine the 25 or 45 being popular classics, however I can imagine the MG equivalents will be. After all, in 20 years time it was your grandad that drove the 25/45 while you had the ZT/ZR as your first car, first shag and first crash.
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1974 MGB GT - A stereotypical classic car.
2007 Honda Civic EX CTDi - The reliable runner that is like the family pet.
2010 Aldi A4 - Owned to placate the wife on my crap buying


My history: 2003 Clio II 1.2 16v (First car), 2003 Honda Civic 3dr 1.7 CTDi (Isuzu lump), 1992 Mazda MX5 1.6, 2005 Mazda RX8 192bhp, 2005 Saab 9-3 1.9TiD 150bhp, 2007 Honda Civic 2.2 CTDi, 2004 Renault Scenic 1.6 Auto (Now Kiltox FiL), 2004 Saab 9-5 2.3t (Now Hooli), 2004 Smart Roadster 80bhp
Wife history (that she used/owned but I had frequent use of): 2002 Renault Clio II 1.2 16v (Billabong!), 2006 Mazda MX5 1.8, 2004 VW Golf 1.6 FSI, 2005 Renault Scenic II 2.0 (went bad from the drive back when buying it!), 2002 Vauxhall Astra 1.6 16v (now phil_lihp ex-colleague), 2005 Renault Laguna II v6 (Now angle)




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