H reg Peugeot 405 estate - £150 with MOT!!

[retro80sboy]

Im off later with my mate to see this beauty.My cousin has taken it in as a P/X and was going to scrap it but my mate is after a cheap runner so we are going to have a look later.Its a 2ltre petrol, and has a problem thats something to do with the needle in the carb apparantly which is apparantly a pretty easy fix(?) so im told. other than that it runs ok and has more than 6 months MOT.whats everyones thoughts of these beasts? my dad had a couple of saloon versions in the early 90's and they were great cars, rare nowadays too - but I cant remember the last time I saw an estate version. around these parts.

[VWPowered]

should pull strong like when running good

[Peter C]

Carb?I would have thought they were fuel injected? Hang on, the SRis and Mi16s were fuel injected, but come to think of it..... yep, the basic models probably had carbs.Ignore me. Most people do.

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Ignore me. Most people do.

did i hear a mouse squeak

 

 

[carlo]

If it's an H reg it is no doubt a 1905 carb petrol - will probably be a GL or GR.The earlier petrols were known for burning a bit of oil, but, being a 405, will be a comfortable and reliable old thing. Don't tend to rust either.

[retro80sboy]

If it's an H reg it is no doubt a 1905 carb petrol - will probably be a GL or GR.The earlier petrols were known for burning a bit of oil, but, being a 405, will be a comfortable and reliable old thing. Don't tend to rust either.

Yeah, my cousin says the bodywork is pretty good.Must admit I was a bit suprised when he mentioned carbs as I thought it would be an injection.When did they start making the 405 anyway? I might be wrong but Im sure ive seen a couple on an E plate. Pretty good cars for that period.

[carlo]

Introduced in 1987, UK January 1988.

[Cavcraft]

Defo on E plates, had a 1.6 GE(?), E550 XKA iIrc. That had had a new carb and it was fucking fantastic on fuel.Seem to recall they liked to make the oil go creamy if only used on short journeys.

[Peter C]

I had an F reg SRi many many years ago. Same lump as the 205 GTi 1.9. It was white, rollin' on wheel trims and didn't have PAS. Biggest problem was the bastard kept overheating. My mechanic did the sniff test and the HG was deemed as ok, there was no coolant loss, the water pump was ok, the rad was back flushed, the thermostat was removed, the temp sender and gauge were checked and yet the fucker kept running hot. It would only drive ok with the heater on hot and turned to full blast. I ended up px'ing it for a Carlton 1.8GL with a rusty wheel arch. I was a poor student in those days but at least I got laid every so often.

[Guest]

Sounds like a right deal to me.

[VWPowered]

and me, but would you pull in one now

[Guest]

Yeah but I'm a sexy man.

[Milford Cubicle]

My 405 was a real pulling machine. It pulled trailers, other cars...

[Guest]

He's here all week, folks.

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[r.welfare]

£150 for one of the most useful estates of it's external size (if you know what I mean!) seems like a bargain to me.H plate is pretty old for a surviving 405, mostly estates survive in number and most of those are diesels. Phase 1 model, so super-rattly Airfix interior is a standard feature!1905cc petrol with a carb had a reputation for hot starting difficulties back in the day (like the R5 GT Turbo did), so I'd check that the "needs new needle for carb" is not related to this.Otherwise, have a gander underneath to check for rust (they just don't show it on the bodywork...), make sure all the electrics work and the coolant is nice and clear, and the rear wheels sit vertically, not like this: /-------\

[retro80sboy]

Well, we couldnt get it started sadly, just wouldnt turn over, but my mates going back up with his Dad who is a mechanic, and hopefully he can check it over.didnt look in bad nick, apart from someone had sealed up the leaking sunroof and painted over it (and the rest of the roof too) with thick paint that did match.Ill get some pics if im up that way at the weekend.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Sounds pretty unappealing from that description i'm afraid!!!I'd like an early 405 though, I'd like a 1.6GE or maybe a 1.9SRi, often scan the bay for em but they never come on, must be well rare.

[Volksy]

I'd like a 1.6GE or maybe a 1.9SRi

A mate had an '89 SRi, no PAS, no ABS, an absolutley lovely car to wang down the backroads. I would recommend, but like you say, very rare. Not seen one so early since. Ever.

[Talbotman]

Had both a Topaz blue1.6gl carb from new in 88 and a cherry red 1.9sri pre reg,d in91 - visited Ryton in 88 on a factory visit to watch them being made - fabulous cars to drive the sri in particular went really well and its handling was sublime but they were both phase1 models and had the usual array of cheap trim and patchy finish of the earlier cars. As said above i think it was a twin solex carb renowned for its flat spots and hot starting issues - have fun!!

[504GL]

Had both a Topaz blue1.6gl carb from new in 88 and a cherry red 1.9sri pre reg,d in91 - visited Ryton in 88 on a factory visit to watch them being made - fabulous cars to drive the sri in particular went really well and its handling was sublime but they were both phase1 models and had the usual array of cheap trim and patchy finish of the earlier cars. As said above i think it was a twin solex carb renowned for its flat spots and hot starting issues - have fun!!

My 504 had a stupid twin solex arrangement which apparently worked great when new but was crap when even slightly out of adjustment. Weber sorted that out

[carlo]

I'd like a 1.6GE or maybe a 1.9SRi

A mate had an '89 SRi, no PAS, no ABS, an absolutley lovely car to wang down the backroads.

 

I would recommend, but like you say, very rare. Not seen one so early since. Ever.

I would imagine an early SRi without PAS would be a wondrous handling thing. The PAS was a good system but without it the steering had great feel, albeit far too heavy when parking. I remember the early 405s well as I used to sell tham in Watford. I particularly remember a beige 1.6GE with the most appalling build quality, the rear doors literally flapped in the breeze when you shut 'em. Funnily enough a bit further down the line it used to be the French ones which were worse when Ryton got its act in order.

 

Here's a nice early GE that was on ebay recently - I managed to buy the Hortons badge off him before he sold it!

 

[Milford Cubicle]

Bare steel wheels with little rubber hubcaps, wow!The 405's power steering is quite heavy/feelsome anyway.

[r.welfare]

Early cars, and petrol saloons in particular, have just disappeared. Probably due to uneconomic mechanical/electrical repair than corrosion. There are still a fair number of estates around.Phase 2 (K-M reg) and Phase 3 (M-P reg, just a Phase 2 with a driver's side airbag) are definitely better built, that said the earlier Mi16s are supposed to be the driver's pick of the bunch due to the lighter, revvier 1.9 unit.Be wary of Phase 1 ABS - any faults in the Bendix "integral" system and you lose the brakes full stop. Later cars with Bendix "additional" or Bosch systems are fail safe if the ABS stops working. Probably rare to find an early estate with ABS though.I read somewhere recently that Ryton actually stopped producing saloons (they never built estates there) in 1993 when the 306 was introduced, being supplied from France thereafter.Those GE's are certainly basic, but probably not a bad bet for low-bucks shite motoring given the lack of electrical equipment.

[504GL]

Early cars, and petrol saloons in particular, have just disappeared. Probably due to uneconomic mechanical/electrical repair than corrosion. There are still a fair number of estates around.Phase 2 (K-M reg) and Phase 3 (M-P reg, just a Phase 2 with a driver's side airbag) are definitely better built, that said the earlier Mi16s are supposed to be the driver's pick of the bunch due to the lighter, revvier 1.9 unit.Be wary of Phase 1 ABS - any faults in the Bendix "integral" system and you lose the brakes full stop. Later cars with Bendix "additional" or Bosch systems are fail safe if the ABS stops working. Probably rare to find an early estate with ABS though.I read somewhere recently that Ryton actually stopped producing saloons (they never built estates there) in 1993 when the 306 was introduced, being supplied from France thereafter.Those GE's are certainly basic, but probably not a bad bet for low-bucks shite motoring given the lack of electrical equipment.

Wonder how many Mi16's have gone to the scrappers because of 205 Mi16 conversions.A guy I know from another site even has a T16, I was talking to Betaphile the other day about posting some pictures of it on here, that would piss him off no end as he loves the thing