S type 2.7D, do I go for it?

[stripped fred]

I have not been actively looking for another car but you know how it goes. I mentioned to a chap I met that I quite liked his 2004 S type when I had to move it off his drive for him. That was a few months ago but he called me yesterday. He appears to have taken my positive comments as a contract to buy.

I have never owned a larger, luxury* type car. I need a large, spacious car for family duties. This is not it really as . I also need something that won't cost to much in fuel and as this is a diesel it should be ok. It's an automatic SE version. Well looked after and the cost to me would be around £1k. Should I bite his arm off? The fact that it has working aircon is enough to clinch it I think as my cmax aircon doesn't work and is almost unbearable in this heat.

He wants to upgrade to an XJ and if it comes off I think I will buy and run it for a while. Insurance is a bit steeper, the MOT is due soon and I haven't looked over it properly but I think it's worth a punt. It will also tick another make of car off the list and nice and be nice comfy on a long run. What do you think? 

[stripped fred]

Insurance and tax are quite a bit more. Probably about £500 over a year. Hopefully it would reward me by being reliable and trouble free? I don't see too many horror stories but maybe you lot know more...

[sutty2006]

Fuel economy will be around the late 20s, early 30s on a run. Tax 335 a year.  Get it bought. 

[Tetleysmooth]

Just buy the Saab 9-5 that's for sale on here

[bigstraight6]

A good friend of mine has owned one of these for years now and has nothing but praise for it.

[Wingz123]

£1k is cheap for a 2.7 Tdv s type. That will be facelift version too as I dont think they ever did the diesel in the pre facelift. 

 

I would

[Crispian_J_Hotson]

Yes.

[Crispian_J_Hotson]

They have liquid filled lower arm bushes, they'll look 'greasy' if they are stuffed. And rust... If there's any, be wary as the sill covers are plastic and hide enough to write the car off. Can be repaired tho.

Rear lights can let water in, check the boot.

Check rear tyre wear for out of aligned rear frame.

Don't expect economy but this is easily outweighed by the drive quality.

My insurance was a bit dearer than normal but it's on commuting 30,000 a year although I haven't done 300 since I got it!

[sutty2006]

And if you buy it and it’s no good for you, I’ll buy it for the engine...... ?

[dieselnutjob]

A 2.7 engine is worth at least 2 grand. I average mid 30s mpg in my XJ 2.7 and I live in London. 

For a grand you should buy it because if you don't like you'll get your money back anyway.

Just look out for rust and never go anywhere near a JLR main dealer. 

[stripped fred]

Thanks everyone. I'm getting a bit excited at the prospect. I've not told my wife yet. She wanted to spend an extra £1k on new kitchen worktops and I said it was to expensive. We compromised.... However, going in with the 'ok, I've just bought a car for no reason whatsoever, cost £1k' may not go down too well...

[dieselnutjob]

She might surprise you. My missus loves being driven around in a Jaaag

[stripped fred]

I've played it safe for a while now with a 2006 cmax, not an old car but a slightly boring option. I've not been on here much either. Working as self employed and I have no proper working hours. Anyway, if this is what I think it is, a grand for a taste of jaguar ownership, then I will buy it. I would regret it if I didn't.

I did have one of those times when I considered buying an s type to use when we got married a few years back but it didn't pan out. I have always been intrigued but it is not really big enough for me as my brain is convinced I need a large car, to get bikes and family in etc. However, the thought of cruising down an a road, with working aircon and cruise control, sounds good. Perhaps I can get a roof rack for the bikes...

[dieselnutjob]

You can't get kids AND bikes at the same time in a CMax either. 

Personally I prefer tow bar mounted bike racks because of height restrictions but I don't know how easy it is to put one on an S Type. The XJ one was a nightmare to fit.

[stripped fred]

3 hours ago, Wingz123 said:

£1k is cheap for a 2.7 Tdv s type. That will be facelift version too as I dont think they ever did the diesel in the pre facelift. 

 

I would

Yes, it's a facelift one, SE spec, grey I think. I know it has working aircon (big factor for me as I arrive at people's house for my work drenched) and heated seats, nice to have as never had working ones before.

I have no idea on the mechanics as I drove it 10 yards max. It seemed fine.

I think I like it just because it looks a bit different and should be comfortable and interesting to drive for a while. You never know, I might get hooked and be looking for an XJ next...

[cpjitservices]

My mate has a 2.7TDV6 S Type. £1300. Very good car! Runs as sweet as a nut.

 

Grey with Grey/Black Interior.

 

05 plate, around 103k.

Stunning Motor.

[sierraman]

It’s a thousand quid, buy it and run it into the ground. As above you’ll see a bit back breaking it. At this age/money don’t get into replacing anything you don’t absolutely desperately have to on it. Anything serious with the engine or rot will mean it’s scrap. Don’t be one of these that falls in love with it and spends fortunes mending minor problems. I’d want to run it a bit longer than a driveway though make sure it’s smooth and isn’t smoking. A big component like the gearbox going will mean good night Vienna... Get it bought. 

[stripped fred]

I went for it, I pick it up later in the week! I think it's good one, full history. The MOT is due in September so we'll see what that throws up but I have a feeling it won't be much. It's had a timing belt and brakes recently and the gearbox was replaced a while ago. A lot of work done at a Jaguar specialist. I'm quite excited! I will let you know more when I've got it.

[cpjitservices]

11 minutes ago, stripped fred said:

I went for it, I pick it up later in the week! I think it's good one, full history. The MOT is due in September so we'll see what that throws up but I have a feeling it won't be much. It's had a timing belt and brakes recently and the gearbox was replaced a while ago. A lot of work done at a Jaguar specialist. I'm quite excited! I will let you know more when I've got it.

Good that the Belts have been done as this is not a cheap task, people like the engines out of these to replace in Range Rovers and the like.

 

Genuinel excited for ya, I really want a 2.7 TDV6 S Type!

[Mr A Lawrence]

I ran an 06 2.7d manual for 3 1/2 years a while ago and it never let me down, returned 40mpg most of the time and the only big bill I had was for the cambelt change which was a very reasonable £300+vat.

If its a face-lift and has exhaust tips that point down then it shouldn't have a DPF. 

If it has a DPF just make sure you give it a good blast now and again or major damage will be done to the engine. 

Parts and service items aren't too expensive and they are easy to work on. 

Sill rot is an issue as is front wheel arch lip rust so check carefully as the sill covers hide quite a lot of the sill so rust can rampage out of sight until its terminal. 

Other than that just enjoy the silent waft of driving around in a jagwah. 

Also, the S type has a bit of a villain look about it so people always let you out at junctions! 

[dieselnutjob]

To clear the DPF the ECU will inject so much fuel that if there is a problem with the system the oil level starts to rise as the sump fills with diesel, so keep an eye on the oil level. 

DPF and EGR can be disabled and due to the cars age it doesn't cause MOT failure. 

[stripped fred]

6 hours ago, Mr A Lawrence said:

I ran an 06 2.7d manual for 3 1/2 years a while ago and it never let me down, returned 40mpg most of the time and the only big bill I had was for the cambelt change which was a very reasonable £300+vat.

If its a face-lift and has exhaust tips that point down then it shouldn't have a DPF. 

If it has a DPF just make sure you give it a good blast now and again or major damage will be done to the engine. 

Parts and service items aren't too expensive and they are easy to work on. 

Sill rot is an issue as is front wheel arch lip rust so check carefully as the sill covers hide quite a lot of the sill so rust can rampage out of sight until its terminal. 

Other than that just enjoy the silent waft of driving around in a jagwah. 

Also, the S type has a bit of a villain look about it so people always let you out at junctions! 

Thanks for that. It has the downturned exhaust pipes so I think that is good news although I read that the dpf one is slightly more economical. I would still rather not have one though!

[stripped fred]

One job he's told me it needs is the water pump belt replacing. Not sure how urgent or costly that would be. Perhaps I can do that myself.

[stripped fred]

Here she is...

[sutty2006]

Water pump belt? That’s on the main belt. The belt at the rear of the engine is the fuel pump belt. If it’s had the main belt replaced, ask if it’s had the uprated oil pump fitted, as the original ones sheer the casing and then it’s a new engine jobby. My belts been done but the oil pump is original, it’s been good so far and I’m coming up to 160k 

[stuboy]

looks lovely

[Broadsword]

Well bought!

[stripped fred]

51 minutes ago, sutty2006 said:

Water pump belt? That’s on the main belt. The belt at the rear of the engine is the fuel pump belt. If it’s had the main belt replaced, ask if it’s had the uprated oil pump fitted, as the original ones sheer the casing and then it’s a new engine jobby. My belts been done but the oil pump is original, it’s been good so far and I’m coming up to 160k 

He's got all the service history which he's going to give me on Thursday. I'll have a look what's been done.

I don't think he's a car person so he may have got it wrong but he said the timing belt had been done but the water pump belt still needed doing. Perhaps he meant the fuel pump belt. Is that easy to change?

 

[sutty2006]

On a discovery, not really. It’s a body off job if the person doing it isn’t good working blind or with hands like a child. The main ones done which isn’t a hard job. People usually leave the rear one as it’s a pain in the anus to do. Not sure how bad it is to do on a jaaaaagggggg

[sierraman]

Looks a lovely car. We’re talking a thousand quid here though to buy it, I’d personally run it and enjoy it and not spend a penny of at all possible. Live in ignorance of the potential for a belt needing doing. Sounds a bit devil may care but you don’t want to get roped in to any expensive jobs on it, it’s Sod’s law you’d pay out for the belt doing and the gearbox could shit itself the week after.