r.welfare Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Sounds like there are some things to discuss with Mrs Pog there, given her reservations you have listed...can you not rationalise it by stating (or demonstrating) that you have provided adequately for her and the Poglets, and that car spend comes from what's left?Also, if you buy the best possible, provided you don't pay "AfFordable Classics" type premiums you should get back pretty much what you paid when it's time to sell - so basically zero depreciation is a good thing, no? This could be a particularly persuasive argument at the moment given that savings interest rates are 9/10 of naff all.If all else fails, keep the golf up - golf bores are 1000x worse than car bores in my experience, so she'll soon be keen for you to go back to old motors once you invite some of 'em round to discuss the latest Ping hybrids, or whatever. And I tried to play golf for 10 years and still was no ruddy good at it - good luck!
pompei Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 What was that song by The Godfathers, "Birth School Work Death" I bet the refrain for many of us on here is Money Cars Work Women. In no particular order. All bringing joy and causing grief. (well, maybe not so much joy at work )
AnthonyG Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 If all else fails, keep the golf up - golf bores are 1000x worse than car bores in my experience, so she'll soon be keen for you to go back to old motors once you invite some of 'em round to discuss the latest Ping hybrids, or whatever.This is superb advice. Start wearing golf clothing at all times as well, she'll soon wish you were back in a grubby boiler suit.
whitevanman Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 AH shit Pog this is crap for you................I had a similiar situation last year when I moved house and lost my workshop and car space all at the same time, I went from 23 cars down to 4, went down the route of more modern "reliable " cars, which shit on me mercilessly and as I had no where to fix them had to fork out for them, the solution.well kinda like Seth buy the best you can afford, I got a crackin' Sierra Saphire, T+T for £250, needs a few bits done but nothing major, so they are out there.............You may need to sacrifice the Beemer, just to prove your serious to her though.............or hire a hit man and spend the insurance money on a barn
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 There is a skill to doing old cars. The £100 stuff is cheap is cheap because it's shit. But there's complete shit, and there's profitable shit. A £100 Sierra 1600 is just landfill. A £100 XR4i however is a way of turning £100 into £500 just by taking it to bits and selling it piecemeal.....if you can be arsed.Really old cars are basically rubbish. Mark 1 Cortinas, Minors, 1100's etc are nice museum exhibits but you know they will fall to bits given any serious use, a non stop headache. Show it a good British winter and the floor will drop out. Need to use it seriously? 4 speed gearbox, engine revving its bollocks off at 60 mph, crap brakes and hopeless demisting. Fuck that.The cars to buy are clean, low mileage late eighties early nineties stuff. Think Merc 190E, E30 and E34 BMW's, 1.4 Renault 5, late Sierras and Chavaliers. All robust cars that still drive well, avoid horrid electronics/catalyst bullshit and cost pennies to maintain. You can still go out and buy a really good low mileage example for a grand (what sort of Cavalier could you buy for £1000!!) and after giving it a good service and a goodly dose of Waxoyl you have a car for the next ten years.The guy who was going to scrap his concours standard 1994 520i for a new Volvo C30 has been given a talking to. That Volvo will be 1500kg of unfixable junk in 9 years time. The BMW meanwhile will be cracking past 100'000 miles and in rude health - and a very clean, unusual old car.
ChinaTom Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 The thing to remember is that this should be a hobby. Hobbies are meant to be fun - they don't have to be practical. Hobby: An activity or interest pursued outside one's regular occupation and engaged in primarily for pleasure. According to the dictionary.And I think our good dear ladies should respond to that part of the argument. I have the same issue with my missus regarding the Jag (the car SHE BOUGHT FOR ME!!). And as I also currently work from home this is becoming an enormous issue. I do sincerely sympathize with you here. I always win the financial argument though when things get really argumentative. A quick session with the credit card statements and a calculator always proves that her cosmetics and handbag / accessories expenditure comes in at way over 300% of the Jag annual expenditure. And to top it all off - including the fuel! Always a shutter-upper.True, I only have the one vehicular indulgence, but I can assure you the v12 based annual bills would be equivalent to a quite a few "more sensible" vehicles.Chin up though. Being overloaded with work during these tough times is a very good thing.
whitevanman Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 There is however the risk that you will end up like me, an anti-social, borderline alchoholic, who splits his time between arguing with the dog, trying to avoid contact with the family that disowned me, working in a mind-numbing job that I am good at, but see for the utter-pointless existence that it is, just ticking off the days until I can early retire jack it all in and buy a big shed and a load of grot to fill it with.......That sounds for all the world like me......................... are you spying on me ?
MrRegieRitmo Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Just intrude on her hobbies/buying habits, she'll soon cut it out - "Look at these shoes, you haven't worn them for ages, you should get rid of them", "No more cushions, they're a waste of money", "No you can't have a tumbledryer, you've already got a mangle", etc. This is so true, why is it always us who has to make the compromises!?
MrRegieRitmo Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I think Seths very right really - buy the best thing thing you can afford and that way you won't get (many) complaints from SWMBO if it's a tidy, fully working car rather than seldom used, tatty POS. I think anything that I buy in future will have to be a good 'un, its easier that way and I really don't have the time to spend doing miriad jobs that take forever. This is really good advice. Stop buying old crap like that Daihatsu simply because it's £74 or whatever. Its £74 because its a load of old rubbish that nobody wants. Don't accept a free Seat or whatever (sorry HSceptre) why do you want a headache even if its free? Just let it go to scrap. Accept that you don't have a barn/field to store tons of old shite (most of which invariably gets scrapped after sitting for 2/3 years anyway) and move on. Save all that money, time and space for something that you really want - if you have wait a year for a good example, then so be it. If the guy who owns my old Avenger (which is very sound in bodywork and mechanicals, just a shit interior) I will tip you the nod. I am going to wait until I can afford to spend £2500 or so on a good Mk1 Cortina because in the long run that's much cheaper than a dodgy one fill of filler for a grand. I also know it will probably take some time to find a good 'un.I have come to the realisation that cars that aren't used much or at all are invariably a PITA anyway. Things is though, if everybody gave up on the cars that need a bit of tinkering or even restoration then the only cars left will be the perfect ones & hence everybody will be fighting over them = price will go up & up! Plus no more good ones entering the market from those that have bothered to restore / fix theirs up to sell on...
peter9000uk Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 Just rememeber......If it's got tits or wheels it will give you trouble
fotorabia Posted July 17, 2009 Posted July 17, 2009 I could never afford a breeding programme so i invested in a chastity belt. I gave up the best coastal rental address in Wellington cos the Holden HQ ute was becoming a salt block as i had no garage.Borgward Isabella only lasted 3 weeks cos i couldnt keep it there either.Im broke but refuse to get rid of Viva..ill never get my money back and I need it as a monument to my love of technical dysfunction.Plus i can store it downstairs.As long as its inside shes sweet.And i car pool with MySharona ..i pay..she drives [she l introduce herself soon!]
pogweasel Posted July 18, 2009 Author Posted July 18, 2009 arguing with the dog,Rational, reasoned debate? Or GET ORF MOI CHAIR arguing...? Interested to know, only because I seem to spend 88.3% of my life having the latter with Mrs_Pog's "beloved" pooch, who takes great delight in sitting in my chair and pretending to be immovable, and urinating up various household items - most usually my work stuff and/or anything that REALLY shouldn't be wazzed on in the kids bedrooms. If ever there was a case for a sack full of rocks & a trip to the canal. My dog however is lovely and is my bestest friend (how sad), and we have loads of nice chats, mostly because he's 95% blind and is pretty dependent on me to spell things out to him... that said he does shed fur like nothing else on earth. GR8 4 Dyson shareholders.
pogweasel Posted July 18, 2009 Author Posted July 18, 2009 Oddly her terrier is neither aggressive nor grumpy.Just a total pain in the arse, pissing on things, escaping, eating my shoes, eating the chairs, eating the kids toys, digging up my vegetables, pissing on things (again), chasing the postlady (funny), sleeping in my chair. That said he does LOVE the kids and spends all time not doing the above trying to lick them to death. Wheras my Collie has a totally different outlook. Perfectly 'behaved' but does not like the children per-se. If they try to fuss him, he'll just walk off. The baby is the exception, seems quite happy to have his ears pulled by him.Amusingly, if you tell him he's "an old grump" he'll bare his teeth in a pseudo-menacing fashion, growl a bit and go and skulk under the table. He's like the dog version of me, pretend-misanthropic, short-sighted but actually quite exciteable and good fun underneath. I don';t get massive klinkers in my tail hair though.....
Vin Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 digging up my vegetablesAutoshite, a veggie patch, and in my case a 'borrowed' Border Terrier(Sister's, visits regularly) - what more could a man ask for*.* Obviously that museum in the other thread, but that's why I buy lottery tickets....
pogweasel Posted July 18, 2009 Author Posted July 18, 2009 Looking at quite a bumper crop this year TBH. Cucumbers are coming along well, 2 kinds of tomatoes, onions, Carrots (OMG they have gone mad), peas, bell peppers, jalapenos, spuds, lettuce & herbs (getting daily pruning atm) various fruit all growing well this year, However we have had epic fail on beans this season, absolutely no idea why though. Everything else is coming on monster.It's all about trying to do the 'good life'. We tried raising ducks too for a bit (ayelsbury's), but they laid no eggs and shit all over the patio, so they had to go...... to a new home. I'd have been happy to eat the bastards... Maybe chickens next, though the jack russell might eat them (collie knows to leave them be)
Vin Posted July 18, 2009 Posted July 18, 2009 Obviously O/T, but my beans are OK Pog. Spuds, onions, sweetcorn, carrots, parsnips, beetroot also good too. Only squashes are showing signs of lethargy....
mattblack Posted July 19, 2009 Posted July 19, 2009 Squashes are crap anyway...How dare you insult my favourite vegetable, sir...*slaps face with glove*
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