Porsche 944. Offer accepted.

[Bobthebeard]

Anyone any views? Already own a keeper, but got the chance of buying another 944. Slightly tatty, but sills professionally replaced and some paintwork done. Considering buying it as I suspect these can only appreciate as value has reached rock bottom surely. Idea would be to tidy it over winter and possibly sell it on... Yeah or nay?

[Faker]

I have been told by a very reliable source, that a proper 944 / 944s will begin to command strong money in the very near future. Shite will still be around for pennies, but a good car will fetch good money. I know of a guards red 944s that cost 5.5k. Minter of a car with black leather on newer style rims. You can buy a boxter for less money than that.

[Junkman]

Good 944s are well out of shite territory right now.

But shit ones are shite and that counts.

[Bobthebeard]

Well, it looks like my offer has been accepted. The owner is a friend so nothing too binding. Snag is, it now has no tax or test so will need to consider the cost of getting it from Stirling to Blackpool... Have no idea how much this would cost! Any ideas before I actually do the deal?

Ta!

[Junkman]

The commercial going rate is a quid a mile. Why is drivage not considered?

[Bobthebeard]

The commercial going rate is a quid a mile. Why is drivage not considered?

Had considered drivage, booking it in for an MOT near home and chancing it. Car runs fine. Bit worried about being pulled over though. Seems debatable how this sort if action would be viewed by the police!

Pick it up at midnight and drive it back in the wee small hours being one consideration...

[Junkman]

Nobody is going to pull you over and if yes, it's a fixed penalty costing a lot less than having it shipped across the country. Just make sure you are insured.

[Bobthebeard]

Nobody is going to pull you over and if yes, it's a fixed penalty costing a lot less than having it shipped across the country. Just make sure you are insured.

Looks like I will be driving it home then! Bit windy about being pulled over though... Guess it is unlikely.

How would I insure it? No tax or mot would surely be an issue!

 

Edit. Shitley quotes are coming in around £245. How much would the fixed penalty be if the worst happened? Fixed penalty plus train fare up, insurance and pez back may not be far off £245 possibly?

[Junkman]

Not for the insurance, no. You'd need to be insured to take it to the nearest MoT station, too. Insurance is private business and you can insure a car even if it is SORNed.

Tax is a different story yet again. You are not liable to vehicle excise tax as long as the paperwork is being processed by the DVLA.

Most people tax their new acquisition on the green slip out of fear, but it's not required.

Also, nobody will ever pull you over for tax not being paid. The Police is not there to collect outstanding taxes, that's the work of a court and a bailiff.

[dollywobbler]

As mentioned, good ones are likely to appreciate, but the market generally seems to pay top dollar for really good, but a fair chunk less for fairly good. Top dollar really needs low mileage and full service history. That said, well restored stuff is fetching good money as well, so if those sills have been replaced properly, there's a fair chance of good money next year.

[Bobthebeard]

Edit. Shitley quotes are coming in around £245. How much would the fixed penalty be if the worst happened? Fixed penalty plus train fare up, insurance and pez back may not be far off £245 possibly?

To quote myself after an edit...

[Bobthebeard]

As mentioned, good ones are likely to appreciate, but the market generally seems to pay top dollar for really good, but a fair chunk less for fairly good. Top dollar really needs low mileage and full service history. That said, well restored stuff is fetching good money as well, so if those sills have been replaced properly, there's a fair chance of good money next year.

Sills have been done properly. Needs general TLC, some minor interior stuff and a few electrical gremlins sorting but otherwise a nice and original early car. Offer of just slightly north of £1000 was accepted.

[cort16]

It seems the S2's and Turbo's are the one's folk seem to want. The older more lowly ones have been languishing around this price range for donkeys unless they're exceptional.

[Junkman]

Make an OMGDRFTWEPON out of it and watch the doh being thrown your way.

[John F]

I've driven (& spannered) a few of these, but the only one I'd actually spend my own money on would be an S2.

 

Early square-dash models rarely seem to fetch strong money, nor do early S models with the often fragile 16v engine.

[Bobthebeard]

I've driven (& spannered) a few of these, but the only one I'd actually spend my own money on would be an S2.

 

Early square-dash models rarely seem to fetch strong money, nor do early S models with the often fragile 16v engine.

My thoughts too TBH.

However this one is an early square-dash model (1984) but has been well looked after, good service history and professionally replaced sills and paint. Needs TLC, but nothing that isn't easily do able given the stuff I have learned restoring my 1988 2.5. Belts done, wheel bearings, etc etc.. All documented. 80 odd thousand miles.

Surely worth the £1100 offered. Been wrong before though!

[Junkman]

I think you did very well if it's a fairly good one.

[John F]

Hmmm, maybe, but only if you can prove that the mileage is a true 80,000 and not 180,000. But even then, I don't think it's a bargain... there's at least one oval-dash 944 on ebay at the moment for similar money.

 

Sorry to be a voice of doom, and I've been wrong before too, but IMO £1100 is a bit salty for a project. That's nearly three Peugeot 405 Style 1.6s with a dent on the boot by the 405 badge and 20p stuck down the handbrake...!

[Bobthebeard]

Shiply quotes are coming in thick n fast. Cheapest so far is less than It would cost me to collect the car myself, factoring fuel, insurance etc into the cost. That is if I was to drive it back to a pre booked MOT. Ahem.

[Faker]

£1100 plus transport is still fair enough. These cars are starting to be tuned now. Euro boffins and tuners are putting old school Porsche and air cooled rims on early 924s etc and they look the bollox!! Watch the market value rise in the near future. I can recall when the 914 was a laughing stock,,, look at them now.

[Bobthebeard]

£1100 plus transport is still fair enough. These cars are starting to be tuned now. Euro boffins and tuners are putting old school Porsche and air cooled rims on early 924s etc and they look the bollox!! Watch the market value rise in the near future. I can recall when the 914 was a laughing stock,,, look at them now.

Sounds good to me! Tend to agree that prices will only move upwards, hence the purchase.

Air cooled rims? WTF? Aren't all rims air cooled?

[Faker]

Air cooled as in air cooled engined variants ya plum!! Early-ish 911 and old school VWs.

[Bobthebeard]

Air cooled as in air cooled engined variants ya plum!! Early-ish 911 and old school VWs.

 

Figured this out a millisecond after posting...

I iz a plum!

[Faker]

[Faker]

All 924s, also pinched from R.R. by the way.

[Bobthebeard]

Must be trying to re live my youth, but.... I am 52 FFS!

The top white one looks nice, so ish does the red one at the bottom. Middle one a bit 'meh'.

No plans to do any of this to mine, but have been reading Retro Cars a little bit recently TBH.

[barefoot]

Isn't the white one air cooled?

[Bobthebeard]

Isn't the white one air cooled?

No, but the rims are.

[barefoot]

I thought that the dodgy looking exhaust and the lack of a fuel filler on the middle car suggested more than rims.

Shit idea anyway, I once saw a golf on a beetle floorpan, fan shroud sticking up through boot floor, lowered to stupid.

[Faker]

Yep, apparently this is running air cooled beetle running gear. Mad!!