Are rear wheel drive cars a fuggin liability??

[cort16]

I was coming back from work today in my Merc and going through a set of traffic light when the car suddenly squirmed at the back, followed by a flash of traction control and the deposit of a 2p in my under pants.

It made me think that I've came a cropper in some way in nearly all the rwd cars I've had new or old where as all the FWD stuff including the torque steer of doom 3.0 v6 Alfa 166 has been reasonably easy to control. I remember dawdling into morrisons car park at 15 mph in my old e21 320 auto then suddenly being in an OMG IMDRIFTIN!! skidalmost scattering a gaggle of grannies. I even had my 520i that couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding try to put me into a ditch just attempting to go around a damp corner at 40mph all be it on slightly bald tyres.

 

I'm always wary that a rwd car is going to come around and bite me on the arse. So is all this rwd ultimate driving machine stuff bollocks cos it seems like it to me?

 

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Car-plummets-60ft-gardens/story-11288407-detail/story.html#axzz2OagdaqbA

[cort16]

I was coming back from work today in my Merc and going through a set of traffic light when the car suddenly squirmed at the back, followed by a flash of traction control and the deposit of a 2p in my under pants.

It made me think that I've came a cropper in some way in nearly all the rwd cars I've had new or old where as all the FWD stuff including the torque steer of doom 3.0 v6 Alfa 166 has been reasonably easy to control. I remember dawdling into morrisons car park at 15 mph in my old e21 320 auto then suddenly being in an OMG IMDRIFTIN!! skidalmost scattering a gaggle of grannies. I even had my 520i that couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding try to put me into a ditch just attempting to go around a damp corner at 40mph all be it on slightly bald tyres.

 

I'm always wary that a rwd car is going to come around and bite me on the arse. So is all this rwd ultimate driving machine stuff bollocks cos it seems like it to me?

 

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Car-plummets-60ft-gardens/story-11288407-detail/story.html#axzz2OagdaqbA

[SambaS]

I learned very quickly to respect RWD in the wet in the Polonez. Ask Benno who saw me in his rear view, I hit a roundabout too fast on our way to SALT last year and went full on sideways out of control exiting the roandabout, somehow caught it and then pendulumed the other way before getting back control.

 

EDIT I much prefer FWD as that's what I''m used to.

[SambaS]

I learned very quickly to respect RWD in the wet in the Polonez. Ask Benno who saw me in his rear view, I hit a roundabout too fast on our way to SALT last year and went full on sideways out of control exiting the roandabout, somehow caught it and then pendulumed the other way before getting back control.

 

EDIT I much prefer FWD as that's what I''m used to.

[Guest]

RWD cars are like horses - always plotting new and different ways to kill you, but, like horses, they are quite fun. RWD cars don't do big poos everywhere, but, on the other hand, you can't eat them in a kebab when they get a bit old and knacked out.

[Guest]

RWD cars are like horses - always plotting new and different ways to kill you, but, like horses, they are quite fun. RWD cars don't do big poos everywhere, but, on the other hand, you can't eat them in a kebab when they get a bit old and knacked out.

[autofive]

Are rear wheel drive cars a fuggin liability??

 

only when driven by a tit

[autofive]

Are rear wheel drive cars a fuggin liability??

 

only when driven by a tit

[Guest]

On reflection, anything that is remotely fun is usually spending most of its time trying to kill you. A light aeroplane, a motorbike, a pair of hot-shit skis, a blonde, a bottle of Scotch, you name it. Psycho-killers, all, but a hoot to play with.

[Guest]

On reflection, anything that is remotely fun is usually spending most of its time trying to kill you. A light aeroplane, a motorbike, a pair of hot-shit skis, a blonde, a bottle of Scotch, you name it. Psycho-killers, all, but a hoot to play with.

[dollywobbler]

Four-wheel drive is the safest option.

[dollywobbler]

Four-wheel drive is the safest option.

[garethj]

Even if you have a red Audi TT with 4WD you can still get into trouble, according to the news last night. Or it could be that maybe you're not driving to the conditions?

 

Cars giving a bit of a squirm isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's a pointer that perhaps you need to look more carefully at the road surface. What would be a flicker of traction control in a car would probably put a motorcyclist on his arse. When the road is slippery or just a bit unknown I ride my bike like a ponce, a lively RWD car quite carefully while most FWD stuff will let you get away with murder.

 

But when it goes far enough wrong that you've put it through a wall at 80mph, the problem nor saviour won't be which wheels are driven

 

EDIT: The internet is a race, and I lose on the red TT

[garethj]

Even if you have a red Audi TT with 4WD you can still get into trouble, according to the news last night. Or it could be that maybe you're not driving to the conditions?

 

Cars giving a bit of a squirm isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's a pointer that perhaps you need to look more carefully at the road surface. What would be a flicker of traction control in a car would probably put a motorcyclist on his arse. When the road is slippery or just a bit unknown I ride my bike like a ponce, a lively RWD car quite carefully while most FWD stuff will let you get away with murder.

 

But when it goes far enough wrong that you've put it through a wall at 80mph, the problem nor saviour won't be which wheels are driven

 

EDIT: The internet is a race, and I lose on the red TT

[cort16]

I'm not arguing that point A5

I recon that they're good fun for 2% of the time the rest of it you're just waiting for it get bored and stick you throught a hedge backward.

[cort16]

I'm not arguing that point A5

I recon that they're good fun for 2% of the time the rest of it you're just waiting for it get bored and stick you throught a hedge backward.

[cort16]

If you try to take a snowy corner at 80 in anything something bad's going to happen.

 

Just like if you try to cut a corner in a Corsa

 

[cort16]

If you try to take a snowy corner at 80 in anything something bad's going to happen.

 

Just like if you try to cut a corner in a Corsa

 

[Guest]

The cars that are the most deranged and in need of counselling are RWD cars with old fashioned turbo chargers, especially the ones that come on half way around a bend. These cars are on a constant mission to fling you into every available ditch.

[Guest]

The cars that are the most deranged and in need of counselling are RWD cars with old fashioned turbo chargers, especially the ones that come on half way around a bend. These cars are on a constant mission to fling you into every available ditch.

[wackywacerwill]

I'm not arguing that point A5

I recon that they're good fun for 2% of the time the rest of it you're just waiting for it get bored and stick you throught a hedge backward.

 

It's the danger element that's the most fun for me. Bikes and rwd stuff is more fun to drive if that's your thrill, for me they just make me feel more alive and an integral part of the whole driving experience much more so than fwd stuff. Seeking the fun in fwd cars has me driving at greater speed with a fair degree of tittyness if I'm honest.

 

2 stroke motorcycles are the bestest PHACT.

[wackywacerwill]

I'm not arguing that point A5

I recon that they're good fun for 2% of the time the rest of it you're just waiting for it get bored and stick you throught a hedge backward.

 

It's the danger element that's the most fun for me. Bikes and rwd stuff is more fun to drive if that's your thrill, for me they just make me feel more alive and an integral part of the whole driving experience much more so than fwd stuff. Seeking the fun in fwd cars has me driving at greater speed with a fair degree of tittyness if I'm honest.

 

2 stroke motorcycles are the bestest PHACT.

[cort16]

I had a right shit box of a Nissan Silvia turbo and it did that on or off boost thing. I leant it to may mate to go to the shops (less than a mile away) when he came back he was very white as he'd had a "moment" in it he couldn't talk about until he'd had a fag and a cup of tea. It would also occasionally lose boost during full throttle overtaking manouvres, which was interesting.

[cort16]

I had a right shit box of a Nissan Silvia turbo and it did that on or off boost thing. I leant it to may mate to go to the shops (less than a mile away) when he came back he was very white as he'd had a "moment" in it he couldn't talk about until he'd had a fag and a cup of tea. It would also occasionally lose boost during full throttle overtaking manouvres, which was interesting.

[wuvvum]

Several people at work know the chap with the red TT, and apparently he's a bit of a tit.

 

The only car I've ever crashed was RWD, and it was down to unexpected OMG OVERSTEER on a wet dieselly roundabout - it was a Manta GT/J and the steering had about 8 turns lock to lock so by the time I realised what was happening (I was only 19 at the time and it was my first RWD car) it was too late to catch it and I clouted the armco. Since then I've had a few sideways moments in older cars, usually deliberate - has tended to be in older stuff though (Volvo 164, Dolomite, Viva, Hunter, MX5 etc) as they seem to let go more gradually and are therefore easier to catch - I wouldn't have the bottle to provoke something modern and powerful to go sideways, at least not on the public road. Although I did have an Omega V6 manual which was surprisingly controllable.

[wuvvum]

Several people at work know the chap with the red TT, and apparently he's a bit of a tit.

 

The only car I've ever crashed was RWD, and it was down to unexpected OMG OVERSTEER on a wet dieselly roundabout - it was a Manta GT/J and the steering had about 8 turns lock to lock so by the time I realised what was happening (I was only 19 at the time and it was my first RWD car) it was too late to catch it and I clouted the armco. Since then I've had a few sideways moments in older cars, usually deliberate - has tended to be in older stuff though (Volvo 164, Dolomite, Viva, Hunter, MX5 etc) as they seem to let go more gradually and are therefore easier to catch - I wouldn't have the bottle to provoke something modern and powerful to go sideways, at least not on the public road. Although I did have an Omega V6 manual which was surprisingly controllable.

[cort16]

I just think that joe blogs goes out and buys a 320d or what ever after having a golf, drives it as they did the golf then next thing they know they're the wrong way around on a round about or have driven down a 60ft set of stairs.

Modern RWD cars are weird as the traction control stops you lighting the wheels up but you can't get around physics so if the weight moves in a particular way you're still going to go sideways but you're going to have the traction control grabbing at the wheels making an arse of things.

[cort16]

I just think that joe blogs goes out and buys a 320d or what ever after having a golf, drives it as they did the golf then next thing they know they're the wrong way around on a round about or have driven down a 60ft set of stairs.

Modern RWD cars are weird as the traction control stops you lighting the wheels up but you can't get around physics so if the weight moves in a particular way you're still going to go sideways but you're going to have the traction control grabbing at the wheels making an arse of things.

[Danblez]

My 924 has astonishing levels of grip and hasnt shown the slightest hint of biting me in the arse, even when pushed hard. Maybe it is the Bridgestone's it wears rather than wan king ditch longs?

 

Ok no doubt that has probably done it I will be in the paper next week embedded in the second floor of a house!

[Danblez]

My 924 has astonishing levels of grip and hasnt shown the slightest hint of biting me in the arse, even when pushed hard. Maybe it is the Bridgestone's it wears rather than wan king ditch longs?

 

Ok no doubt that has probably done it I will be in the paper next week embedded in the second floor of a house!