Tagora sx help

[tagoraman83]

More of a wanted ad than anything else..... Just for anyone who hasn't seen my previous posts I have the blue eBay Tagora SX in captivity and am after parts/ donor cars (I need a roof skin ) or if anyone has a workshop manual I can copy I would more than cover the postage ( I bought a manual for a bargain £60 only to find the SX pages had been removed!). The restoration proper is underway and I'll post some pics soon. Hoping to hear from someone soon with parts news!

[TagoraSX]

I think the chances of finding a NOS roof skin in the UK are 0.0001% and the chances of finding a complete Tagora shell to take the roof off are not much better.

The best, and possibly only option IMO would be to start looking in northern France for an SX shell and A-frame it home.

 

Best of luck with it and please post some pictures

[SambaS]

France:

 

http://www.ooyyo.fr/car-detail/?language=5&domain=13&make=Talbot&model=tagora&&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marche.fr%2Fpetite_annonce_auto-occasion-achat-vente-vehicule-de-collection-talbot-tagora-diesel-de-collection-ref41593171.html

[tagoraman83]

I think the only chance I had of a nos roofskin went with the demise of R.J Grimes in coulston.

Google them and you'll find some heartbreaking pics of the place after it closed but prior to mysteriously burning down.

I know my only chance is to find a car for salvage, there must be one in the UK somewhere. Getting one from France is an option but isn't it a real ball ache to get a car out of France?

[Albert Ross]

Tourists manage it quite often.......................

[tagoraman83]

By that I mean don't you have to go and see the local mayor and if he likes you he signs the paperwork to say you can have the log book and export it, and thereby if he doesn't like the look of you you're screwed.

[Albert Ross]

Well, perhaps just drive it onto a bloody ferry or t'other train thingy, and drive off the other end.... once it's here.... it's anyone's guess. Play stupid, say you bought it of a Frenchman after it broke down near your house!

[tagoraman83]

Well I am only going to strip it for bits and lop the roof off so don't need to worry about registering the thing. Just got to get past the gendarmes and hm customs and I'm laughing....

[Albert Ross]

Short story. I guy I know of buys older Land Rovers. He lives in France. They won't allow Military vehicles into the country as new registrations...... one has to get Government approval to even bring it over to be considered, and it must be stripped of all weapons etc... so when he found a REALLY rare (1 only made) 4 door armoured car Land Rover, as used by news crews, he HAD to have it. Well, Customs would have turned sour if that was to be imported, so he waited till the D-Day celebrations, and drove to the Ferry with the rest of the peeps. When they got off the ferry and towards their junction, they all turned left, he turned right and went home..... The best sort of camouflage is plain view. Nobody noticed it not being on the return ferry passage.......

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Getting a car out of France is no more difficult than getting one out of Norfolk

[tagoraman83]

Bought a Renault 20 TX from Norfork once, much the same process.... They don't speak the language and don't want to sell you the car unless you are related.

[ChinaTom]

Oi!

[gtd2000]

Perhaps they could dig a tunnel from France to England...? Oh hang on!

[pshome]

Save that Tagora!

 

Together with a friend I pulled a 81 GLS out of a garage this winter myself and got it back on the road with relatively little cost and within a few weeks.

 

 

We got all parts needed rather easily. The toughest piece was a side mirror, no mirror, no TÃœV (=MOT), no fun!

Everybody said: no way, none seen since years, look in France: Guess what, we found a brand new one in England at a very reasonable price!

 

We named the car "Theo" after the previous (and only) owner and have a lot of fun with it, certainly gets looks!

 

By the way sharing a car with a friend is a very good thing to do: I tell my wife its my buddy who bought it and he does the same

It's a great cruiser on the Autobahn (oh yes, i would love a SX!) and if you keep the vomit bags ready for your passengers it's great on mountain roads as well!

 

I don't have a roof for you but if you need other parts, let me know and i will ask around for it here in Germany.

 

My workshop manual doesn't have the SX pages either... Talbot probably never bothered writing them! Get yourself a workshop manual for the 604, the carbs are different but otherwise largely the same engine, transmission and front axle.

 

Greetings from Munich

 

Peter

 

Oh yes....right now Theo is not so often the road... slight problem with the roof, but not a serious as yours!

 

[Albert Ross]

Love the number... in English it means decay, rust etc.... just like Tagoras!

[tagoraman83]

Ha didn't spot the plate. There is a thread knocking about on't t'internet from a guy who had a Tagora from nearly new and it would rust at an alarming rate despite new panels and several resprays....I thought he was being a bit over dramatic. He is not , I have owned my SX for about five weeks now and every time I go back to it some new rust has appeared. And I thought 80's lancias could rust, is this why Talbot only made a 1000? The anti-corrosion warrant claims could have taken down psv!Good job I don't live near the sea.I will not be beaten though, forth road bridge eh.....

[pshome]

Show us pictures, otherwise, we believe nothing!

 

Did you get my message with the parts info?

 

Peter

[tagoraman83]

Yes I did thanks, I sent you a pm. Aside from a roof skin I need the top windscreen trim , I have managed to track down a new windscreen and will get it fitted once the car is painted but I need the trim.once painted I will compile a list of parts I need.

I've not worked on the car this weekend due to working on Saturday and driving a six hour round trip today to collect a nos rear 1/4 panel for my Renault 5 Gordini Turbo. I'm working on the Tagora next weekend so will eventually get some pics on here for the non believers.

[Tag26]

Hmmm brave man, especially taking on an SX. Had mine five years and in all that time I've been trying to track down parts. I've come to the conclusion that there are just two classes....... Not much chance and bugger all chance. Mechanical parts are not too bad as all the running gear is Peugeot 504/604 and a lot of stuff is still available new. Anything body and trim related is another matter entirely. Body panels, exterior trim, interior trim, exhaust, side and rear glass and mainly anything SX specific. As only just over a thousand SX's were ever made it's hardly suprising. There are no pattern panels to fall back on as nobady bothered to make any. Spares cars are a faint possibility but I've only seen one pop up in the last 5 years and that was a ropey GL that was past saving.......it went to the crusher a few months back

[Tag26]

Oh yea, and check your headlight glass, they have a tendancy to just fall off!

[TagoraSX]

Do you still have it? pics please!

[Tag26]

Oh yea, it's not going anywhere in a hurry. I haven't got any pics right now as its buried in the garage but there is a pic somewhere on the interwebnet. Its Peony red and silver reg no YHP 801X.

[trigger]

[Tag26]

MY BABY !!!

[TagoraSX]

I remember seeing that for sale on ebay several years ago in Scotland IIRC, along with a couple of engines.

[Tag26]

Yep that's the one. Made him an offer he couldn't refuse and collected it from a town just south of Glasgow and trailered it back to west sussex......that was a long weekend!

Glad I did though

[tagoraman83]

Just googling Tagora SX today and caught a glimpse of a thread from someone bought a Tag SX and needed an air filter casing.Is it the same beast?

Oh and my headlamps are ok, they may have been replaced when the car was restored many years ago. BTW the restoration was featured in practical classics which I do remember, what I don't remember is which issue. Anyone out there know?

 

Restoration update, I think I know why they rust like a bastard apart from shite quality steel, after having the front wings soda blasted and acid etch primed I needed to weld up some holes in them that had been drilled for repeater lamps, which it should never have had, and found all the panel edges are very badly pressed and have jagged razor sharp pressing flashes.The panel presses must have been very cheaply made which resulted in poor quality panels.The edges are so sharp you could never get a decent thickness of paint on them cue over 5 hours a wing with a dremel smoothing out all the edges just so I can get some paint on them and keep the dredded rust at bay, if the other panels are as crap we may be some time.....

[barrett]

Where abouts in West Sussex are you? I'm in (the clearly far superior) East Sussex, wouldn't mind a look at this one day, I don't think I've ever actually seen a Tagora before

[Morgan84]

They only rust if you let them

[vulgalour]

With the ongoing hunt for a roof skin, one has to wonder if it would just be easier to turn it into a soft top instead.