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Hi guys, anyone give me a tip here. I've had a Peugeot 405 laid up since last November with its head gasket removed (never know, it may get finished one day). I was trying to change the manky alloys & tyres yesterday and realised the first one I came to was literally rusted on - I couldn't budge it. In fact the whole disc/caliper assembly looks like a rusty mess on both back wheels, haven't tried the fronts yet. Would a good squirt of WD40 do anything here, or something like kurust? Are there some things you shouldn't apply to discs? How do I get these wheels off short of using a crowbar? Cheers

 

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That photo took me right back to 1991. Life was so much simpler then.

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WD40, jack the car up (and ensure it's safely chocked underneath) then rotate the wheel giving it a good welting with a plastic headed hammer from behind. In the absence of a plastic hammer try blocks of wood and a lump hammer.

Once the wheels are off give the centre hole and the bit of the hub they sit on a good old wire brushing and /or attack with sandpaper before using copper grease when refitting.

Obviously wipe any WD40 off the discs etc before using the car again.

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It's still got it's centre caps :P Impressive.

 

I assume you are saying that the wheel is stuck to the hub? Try some boiling water poured over the wheel first, then undo the wheelnuts (but don't remove them, just loosen them) and drop the car down as rapidly as you dare off the jack. That should break the 'seal' - best to coat the inside of the wheelhub with copper grease to stop it happening in future.

 

I wouldn't squirt anything like WD40 on discs if you can help it.

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I actually tried that trick with the jack rw, even that wouldn't budge them. Looks like they really have almost welded themselves to the hub. Cheers for suggestions. I was thinking of a wire brush when I eventually get them off, won't that damage the disc?

 

Was actually going to replace them with the Harriers from my last 405. To be honest I prefer the earlier type but the bloody centre caps falling off all the time is a pain.

 

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I found drilling a couple of 2mm-dia holes into the alloy itself (behind where the cap has it's indented parts on the edge, mirroring the recessed pieces between the spokes), then locating the caps with a pair of self-tappers did the trick for me.

 

I don't see why you couldn't wire brush the disc face gently; the other option is that when the car's working again a few miles of brake application should clear the surface corrosion off with the pads?

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Boil a kettle and pour the hot water onto the hub

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Remove the wheelnuts and go for a quick hoon.....

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Remove the wheelnuts and go for a quick hoon.....

 

'laid up since last November with its head gasket removed'

 

Come on Wazzer, keep up old lad!

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This has worked for me. Get bottle jack, and lay it on it's side wedged against wheel. Stout piece of wood between bootle jack and wheel you want to remove. Pump furiously.

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All of TV2's alloys were stuck to the hubs when I bought it. A generous application of WD-40 between the hubs and the wheels and a gentle whack of the wheels' centres with a rubber mallet got them off. To prevent a re-occurrence of the problem, I applied copper grease to the hubs before I put the wheels back on. So far so good :)

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The kettle method worked for me when I changed my wheels a few days ago. Pouring a can of Coke onto the hub through the spokes has worked for me in the past. A dead blow hammer if you've got one should also do the trick.

 

Put a set of Harriers on my last white 405, they look nice on the 405.

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very,very big sledge hammer. what I did with mine was loosen the nuts then drive it and slam the anchors on. never failed. not an option if it doesn't run though,

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Something simple usually works for me. Loosen all the nuts and manually give the car a good shove like you're trying to bounce it sideways. Good timing of the shoves builds up a decent amplitude of rock that normally breaks the alloy of the hub.

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Support the car on axle stands and spray everywhere with WD40. Then lay underneath the car and start kicking the wheel off. Worked for me, although it didn't feel very safe....

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I used a steering wheel puller to remove them from an old jag -

 

T bar behind the alloy, puller bolts bolted to it - center bolt on the wheel hub WD40 then socket spanner on the central bolt and the puller pulled the wheel off - obvioulsy only works if the hub ain'r covered over by the alloy

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