But they're wrong

[Guest EccentricRichard]

It is actually

 

And I bet it won't average 85mph up the M40 while feeling like it's got plenty more to go AND return a calculated 41mpg (yes, you heard that right, that's what the E39 did on a run up to Oxford)...

 

Sorry Richard. It'll do 85mph, but only 35mpg. I feel so inadequate

 

85mph AVERAGE (topping 100 at times) and 35mpg at the same time? And it doesn't feel like it's straining anything?

[Guest Leonard Hatred]

Can a BMW 5 series drive through a bog? Thought not.

Fuck off with your irrelevant arguments.

[Lankytim]

The gas turbine engine is an internal combustion engine is it not?

 

Strictly speaking, yes - but I was using the term 'internal combustion engine' in the common understanding of its meaning, as a reciprocating-mass piston engine.

 

An engine that features internal combustion... is known as an internal combustion engine! Well thats what jet engines were classed as when I studied them many years ago.

[Guest EccentricRichard]

Can a BMW 5 series drive through a bog? Thought not.

Fuck off with your irrelevant arguments.

 

Horses for courses. Of course a 5-series can't drive through a bog - it's just that the chap with whom I was having a friendly argument seemed to be suggesting that my parents should be driving a Land Rover. Will a Land Rover sit all day on the autobahn at 130mph+? Thought not. Like I said, horses for courses. And, for fuck's sake, LIGHTEN UP, MAN!

[pogweasel]

GR8, we are onto 'bullshit economy figures' now.

Thinking you should fetch out for some cold cans of STFU, E_Richard, before you make yourself look any more of a pleb.

Don't let the door smack on the arse on your way out!

[garethj]

Can a BMW 5 series drive through a bog? Thought not.

Fuck off with your irrelevant arguments.

The bog is more likely to be Cambridge than Oxford.....

 

 

mmmmmm Oxford *drool*

[Guest EccentricRichard]

An engine that features internal combustion... is known as an internal combustion engine! Well thats what jet engines were classed as when I studied them many years ago.

 

Now, what I'm about to say is hypocrisy if ever there was any such thing but: stop being such a pedant!

 

Most people, if you say internal combustion engine to them, will think of a reciprocating-mass piston engine. It is that to which I referred.

[scruff]

 

85mph AVERAGE (topping 100 at times) and 35mpg at the same time? And it doesn't feel like it's straining anything?

 

No, but then I am a bit deaf.

 

I am struggling to see your point. Your £450 buys you - sorry - your dad a set of brake discs. That doesn't sound very shitey to me and causes me to ponder why you are harping on about it on a forum which, to nick a slogun from the best magazine ever, is all about motoring on a pedestrian budget. I've no doubt a BMW 525STIDTDGT whatever is faster and more economical than my 47 year old Land Rover with a engine and diffs out of a old Disco dropped in. But I can still do 85 if I want to, do 500 miles a week plus stuff at the weekends and enjoy cheap insurance, cheapish parts and free tax

 

I'm not saying your folks (or anyone sane) should run shit old Land Rovers instead of normal cars but your arguement that they "want shite, but can't afford it/doesn't fit with their lifestyle" is a load of balls.

[Guest EccentricRichard]

GR8, we are onto 'bullshit economy figures' now.

Thinking you should fetch out for some cold cans of STFU, E_Richard, before you make yourself look any more of a pleb.

Don't let the door smack on the arse on your way out!

 

Bullshit? Not from me. Come on, dude, lighten up and get a sense of humour... pleb y'self, wot!

[fiatdaft]

have i stumbled onto the what car forum by mistake?

 

i you haven't driven or worked on the cars your talking about,it kinda makes your opinion less valid.

 

i vote pubtalk.

 

[fiatdaft]

An engine that features internal combustion... is known as an internal combustion engine! Well thats what jet engines were classed as when I studied them many years ago.

 

Now, what I'm about to say is hypocrisy if ever there was any such thing but: stop being such a pedant!

 

Most people, if you say internal combustion engine to them, will think of a reciprocating-mass piston engine. It is that to which I referred.

 

like the wankel?

[pogweasel]

When you post something that is both witty and relevant to the the subject matter, then we will bestow you with ROFLS.

However listening to some dreary little scrote who has yet to master the controls of a motor vehicle, or understand it operation within the context of this forum, then I feel my point remains valid.

 

[Guest EccentricRichard]

 

85mph AVERAGE (topping 100 at times) and 35mpg at the same time? And it doesn't feel like it's straining anything?

 

No, but then I am a bit deaf.

 

I am struggling to see your point. Your £450 buys you - sorry - your dad a set of brake discs. That doesn't sound very shitey to me and causes me to ponder why you are harping on about it on a forum which, to nick a slogun from the best magazine ever, is all about motoring on a pedestrian budget. I've no doubt a BMW 525STIDTDGT whatever is faster and more economical than my 47 year old Land Rover with a engine and diffs out of a old Disco dropped in. But I can still do 85 if I want to, do 500 miles a week plus stuff at the weekends and enjoy cheap insurance, cheapish parts and free tax

 

I'm not saying your folks (or anyone sane) should run shit old Land Rovers instead of normal cars but your arguement that they "want shite, but can't afford it/doesn't fit with their lifestyle" is a load of balls.

 

Sometimes it just isn't realistic to be running shite. You need some kind of covered storage, ideally a workshop, and to be able to combat the deadly rust monster. There's a lot to be said for modern rust-proofing technology... I know my dad would have another P6 3500S in a heartbeat if he could, but some people really do need a car that they know will start on the button every day, no matter how cold/wet/hot it is, that will just fly through MoTs every year. Some people have to park on the street and have no maintenance facilities of their own at all.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

hey we need to listen to this guy, so far he has explained where the british motor industry went wrong, now he's solving the worlds mobility and oil addiction problems. I'm looking forward to his lecture on achieveing a lasting peace in the middle east and how to feed the worlds population in 2050.

[Guest EccentricRichard]

like the wankel?

 

Haha! I was about to mention the Wankel too... but most people haven't even heard of them. I was talking about the common perception of what an internal combustion engine is.

[Guest EccentricRichard]

hey we need to listen to this guy, so far he has explained where the british motor industry went wrong, now he's solving the worlds mobility and oil addiction problems. I'm looking forward to his lecture on achieveing a lasting peace in the middle east and how to feed the worlds population in 2050.

 

I haven't explained anything much, actually. Lasting peace in the Middle East and feeding the world's population are definitely beyond me!

[chaseracer]

FFS! Enough! I've taught more mature primary school classes.

 

It's like watching the self-styled 'playground kool kidz' ganging up on the new boy. All right - E_Rich might talk some shit from time to time, but don't we all? Back the feck off a bit and let the guy get a feel for the place, eh?

 

As you were. Or - preferably - not, in this case.

[Guest EccentricRichard]

FFS! Enough! I've taught more mature primary school classes.

 

It's like watching the self-styled 'playground kool kidz' ganging up on the new boy. All right - E_Rich might talk some shit from time to time, but don't we all? Back the feck off a bit and let the guy get a feel for the place, eh?

 

As you were. Or - preferably - not, in this case.

 

Thank you very much! Talk about biting the hand that feeds... I'm very probably the youngest member of this forum, and if the shiters here want to see their shite preserved long-term, and have people to sell it on to, they need to put up with the foibles of the younger generation just as they put up with their cars' foibles, for the greater good. They do want a new generation of shiters, right?

[Louise2cv]

Sometimes it just isn't realistic to be running shite. You need some kind of covered storage, ideally a workshop, and to be able to combat the deadly rust monster. There's a lot to be said for modern rust-proofing technology... I know my dad would have another P6 3500S in a heartbeat if he could, but some people really do need a car that they know will start on the button every day, no matter how cold/wet/hot it is, that will just fly through MoTs every year. Some people have to park on the street and have no maintenance facilities of their own at all.

 

From the age of 18... 9 years of 1 2cv; 6 months of 2 2cvs; and 9 months of an Allegro...

 

some kind of covered storage? Nope, never.

ideally a workshop? I begged space in a compost store when I really had to, mostly on street or uni car park.

to be able to combat the deadly rust monster? No skillz here, I paid £400 for one lot on the 2cv and was amazingly luckly to find a fellow enthusiast who did loads

more for nothing.

 

will just fly through MoTs every year? The first 2cv failed three?ish in 10 years maybe.

 

Depends how hard you try. I did everything on mine bar the bodywork, with little more than a Halfords toolkit. I've given up now because I can't be arsed with getting dirty and rolling round under cars in the weeing rain. Its at this point I guess you choose to move on from shit cars or pay someone else to do the work on them.

[fiatdaft]

this must be windup.

[scruff]

 

some kind of covered storage? Nope, never.

ideally a workshop? I begged space in a compost store when I really had to, mostly on street or uni car park.

to be able to combat the deadly rust monster? No skillz here, I paid £400 for one lot on the 2cv and was amazingly luckly to find a fellow enthusiast who did loads

more for nothing.

 

will just fly through MoTs every year? The first 2cv failed three?ish in 10 years maybe.

 

Depends how hard you try. I did everything on mine bar the bodywork, with little more than a Halfords toolkit. I've given up now because I can't be arsed with getting dirty and rolling round under cars in the weeing rain. Its at this point I guess you choose to move on from shit cars or pay someone else to do the work on them.

 

AMEN SISTER

 

Sorry if I sounded like a knob ER, but shite IS right, I think so anyways. BTW the best straight six isn't in a Bim, it is in the lorry in my avatar

[Guest Leonard Hatred]

Where has E_Richard posted anything remotely 'autoshite'?

[wuvvum]

Pog, what is the name of that Japanese cartoon Weetabix thing? I can't remember and it's bugging me.

[Mr Lobster]

Where has E_Richard posted anything remotely 'autoshite'?

 

Nowhere at all as far as I can see.

 

This thread must mark a new low in Autoshite threads. How it has got to 8 pages is beyond me.

 

[scaryoldcortina]

Facking hell chaps, 3 pages in the time it takes to make and eat my tea?

 

I dont care. I'm not even going to read it. I'm off to start a thread about my new sierra. Far more important.

[Guest EccentricRichard]

And yes, I was entirely wrong on the 'twice as many valves' thing

 

And not always right on the twice as many cams thing (in some cases, the V6 will have FEWER cams than a straight six).

 

And the heavier thing, for example V6 cranks and cams are roughly half the length of a straight six, and thus lighter. Same with blocks.

 

Even on head weights. Two 3cyl heads isn't going to weigh more than one 6cyl head.

 

You're ate up with inherent balance. That's not the end of the equation by any means.

 

Welcome to the forum. We all get dumped on here.

 

But then you have to consider the need for balancer shafts and the gear to run them, and so on... the average V6 block weighs more than the average straight-six block, and throttle response suffers too.

 

Also, a V6 will never have fewer cams than a straight-six - not unless you're putting an OHV V6 against a DOHC straight-six, which just ain't fair. Chalk and cheese.

[Guest EccentricRichard]

Where has E_Richard posted anything remotely 'autoshite'?

 

My love of FD Victors, Rover P6s and SD1s, Opel Mantas, for a kickoff?

 

Your name is right. You're intolerant and full of hatred. I'm outta here, I'm sick of this place already. Moderators, ban me please?

[j-j]

 

some kind of covered storage? Nope, never.

ideally a workshop? I begged space in a compost store when I really had to, mostly on street or uni car park.

to be able to combat the deadly rust monster? No skillz here, I paid £400 for one lot on the 2cv and was amazingly luckly to find a fellow enthusiast who did loads

more for nothing.

 

will just fly through MoTs every year? The first 2cv failed three?ish in 10 years maybe.

 

Depends how hard you try. I did everything on mine bar the bodywork, with little more than a Halfords toolkit. I've given up now because I can't be arsed with getting dirty and rolling round under cars in the weeing rain. Its at this point I guess you choose to move on from shit cars or pay someone else to do the work on them.

 

AMEN SISTER

 

Sorry if I sounded like a knob ER, but shite IS right, I think so anyways. BTW the best straight six isn't in a Bim, it is in the lorry in my avatar

 

Agree. Sorry as a seemingly 'part timer' around here nowadaze (i.e. I cannot check AS 24/7 like when I was a student, ) I did skim read like ALL of this thread, but I get what you're about.

 

I paid £700 for my 1977 Citroën CX in 2005 and it has been BOSS ever since. Sure, I replaced the starter, alternator, water pump and similar ancillories but otherwise it has been reliable in the 1/2 decade Ive ran it. £700 squad has gon a long way: I've owned this shite heap longer than most people keep a new thing. Anyway, choosing to LPG the CX was all my doing but it has made the CX a LOT more reliable over the last few years (who needs a petrol pump? even tho it was a NOS item..) and cold stating has never been an issue (nor hot starting) since evAr...

 

Shite is right.

[scaryoldcortina]

Where has E_Richard posted anything remotely 'autoshite'?

 

My love of FD Victors, Rover P6s and SD1s, Opel Mantas, for a kickoff?

 

Your name is right. You're intolerant and full of hatred. I'm outta here, I'm sick of this place already. Moderators, ban me please?

 

 

You don't need banning, you need to post less and think more!

[richardthestag]

not unless you're putting an OHV V6 against a DOHC straight-six, which just ain't fair. Chalk and cheese.

 

Is he saying that DOHC engines don't have OHV or does he mean pushrod vs dohc ?

 

Out of interest Did anyone ever make a sidevalve v6?

 

I do agree with ^^^ though - 99 posts about his old mans bimmer and a general pissing contest and he has only been posting for a week!! Facking hell I've been here over 2 years and haven't managed that.

 

Maybe I should spend less time surfing porn to contribute to this fine forum . No hangabout maybe E-Richard needs to spend more time surfing porn.

 

Here is some to get you started