land rover series

[bones96]

right i may sound a bit daft but whhat is the difference betwen a lightweight and a normal landy apart from the obvious bonnnet shape and front wing shape ?????? and could i just cut the front wings to shape if i wished ????? been looking at landys on the bay as i have a very good mate who can suply all the parts for me

[pogweasel]

think most of the panels are different in some way.

That said air-portables panels are generally flat/straight...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover ... ightweight

[bones96]

think most of the panels are different in some way.

That said air-portables panels are generally flat/straight...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover ... ightweight

 

thanks for the info

[Albert Ross]

They're narrower, have a unique chassis and panels, and the axle ends are also different. Why do it? You would ruin a good motor to lose the already scant elbow room. But then I like a good normal series, and never really like the AP types.

[Tayne]

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[Station]

My mate had a military one - he said they were lighter so they could drop them out of the cargo planes on parachutes in boxes!

[Tayne]

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[bones96]

does it make the handling differ being lighter ???

[Albert Ross]

The chassis IS different. Narrower across the bulkhead outriggers, and has a strengthening plate behind the front bumper. Also has the parallel rear crossmember which is also narrower. That's the obvious stuff. There's other more subtle differences. Axle end drive flanges are unique, all of this is to fit between the door gaps in helicopters. There's another thing you might search for if you want inspiration, and that's an Australian Military spec called the "cutwing". Pictures all over t'interweb. I know these things, I've been dealing with them for about 25 years now..... Would I have an AP? No. Just too expensive to keep in panels and wiring.

[pogweasel]

Do land rover's have "handling"?

[Albert Ross]

Yes, stick 1/2 a ton in the back of a crossply shod 109 in the wet. GR8 for tail out fun at roundabouts.

[Jozza]

My mate had a military one - he said they were lighter so they could drop them out of the cargo planes on parachutes in boxes!

Pretty much. Before the Lightweight the Army used stripped-down 2CVs since they were the only things that were sort of off-road capable whilst being light enough to either dangle under a helicopter or drop by parachute.

 

The Lightweight, as Tayne pointed out, is very slightly narrower than a normal Series Landy so they could squeeze them into transport aircraft (normal Landy wheel hubs stick out too much!). With the Lightweight the doors, top bulkhead section (the bit with the vent flaps in) and the top part of the rear 'tub' were all removable. The idea was that the stripped-down Lightweight would be parachuted into the war zone with the rest of the vehicle following in seperate parachute drops where it could be quickly bolted together again. If this wasn't possible (either you were under enemy fire or the rest of the bodywork had ended up some distance away up a tree....) you could still drive the stripped-down version. The Wessex helicopter was only capable of lifting a Lightweight in stripped-down form anyway but that point became moot pretty quickly.

 

The 101 gun tractor was field-strippable in a similar way for similar reasons.

[Tayne]

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[Des]

 

Pretty much. Before the Lightweight the Army used stripped-down 2CVs since they were the only things that were sort of off-road capable whilst being light enough to either dangle under a helicopter or drop by parachute.

But would a stripped-down 2CV actually need a parachute?

[Pete-M]

But would a stripped-down 2CV actually need a parachute?

Just attach the sunroof with bungie cords.

[garethj]

Do land rover's have "handling"?

Those mud & snow tyres don't give much grip on greasy tarmac, I had the tail out on my 109 a couple of times.

 

Getting the steering around in time almost pulled my arms out of their sockets though...