Anyone good with Car Alarms ?

[Minimad5]

I have a Laserline 984 alarm, that does not sound.I have looked at all the wires and they seem "okay" .Upon opening the alarm box, i have spotted afew copper tracks (On the PCB) that have been "cut" .This may have been done at the factory or place of assembly, as i am sure they share PCB's all through the range.I don't have any sort of electrical tester, so cannot see if voltage is going to the small speakers.I have attached a different speaker, but still no sound.So i ask you clever people What could my problem be ?(I cannot find any reading material for this model, thats why i ask the fellow shiters)

[ifc63]

These are the current importers of Laserline stuff

 

Laserline Direct

 

Under the Owner's Info button are various downloadable instructions but I can't see 984.

Might be worth a phone call.

[Minimad5]

Thanks Ian,

I found that website yesterday and tried to email them, but yahoo just threw up aload of failure speak.

 

I shall give them a ring tomorrow.

 

Here are some pictures of said item ..

 

(Slowly uploading more)

[ifc63]

It could be that those little slider switches are for different settings, one of which could be 'sound off'.See what they say on the phone.

[Minimad5]

Thats what i was thinking, that is why i took a picture (Just incase there is some sort of clever alarm person amongst us)

 

Sorry for the bad picture, but you can see the cut tracks

(No macro setting for the loose)

 

Fingers crossed the phone call tomorrow helps

[Espacetic]

First thing, when the alarm should be activated can you hear the relays clicking?

[Minimad5]

Yeah relays are clicking.LED flashes.Everything works ... except the sound

[Espacetic]

Follow where the speakers connect to the PCB and re solder every joint and it should burst into life.

[Richard]

Alternatively throw it in the bin where every alarm belongs.

[Minimad5]

Just re-done all the soldering points and still the same - Poo.And Richard - Why do you say that ?(My area is abit rough, so i would like a warning that someone is breaking or has broken into my cars. That way no second chancer comes along and torches it)Edit :-I have planned on re-wiring the alarm the "Mark way" ... fingers crossed this works

[Richard]

Nobody turns a hair when an alarm goes off, and if they did they wouldn't care if it wasn't their car being stolen. I've seen cars being driven with the alarm sounding and nobody even looks. In the early 1990s, when alarms were still quite rare, I set my alarm off near a policeman to see what would happen. He didn't even turn round.

[Richard]

I can do helpful suggestions too.

 

Get yourself a cheap multimeter, like one of these ones from Maplin. http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?men ... ultimeters

 

It would be useful in this case and it's a vital tool if you're going to work on old cars.

[Pete-M]

LAzerlines are bollocks.Used to be sold through a place in Runcorn didn't they? Notoriously unhelpful on the phone, although there was a place in Hirstcountry that used to tell you the lot over the phone. Can't remember who they were though.This post is pretty useless really.

[Tayne]

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[Minimad5]

My "nifty" wiring skills have worked ! Thanks everyone for the help !

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Those oldskool alarms suck major league abominable snowman c0ck, whenever I have a car with one in, i remove and destroy it STAT.

[Station]

Cheap alarms will always be trouble. If not, ALL aftermarket alarms. I had a Clifford 600 on my Astra which, I was told, cost at least a few hundred quid to buy and get installed. I removed it within months of owning it. Constantly going off, locking me out of the car, immobiliser not making it's mind up, etc. I became an expert in jimmying my own car. The locks locked when you started the car, so you had to stop the car to open the doors (to prevent car jacking).Worst is borrowing it to my missus' and I'd get a ring saying she couldn't get OUT of the car. Lifting the plunger, just had it going back down again. FFS.Don't get me started on automatic window closure. I had to climb out of the sunroof on the first day of a new job because I couldn't get out. SHITE.

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

Bollocks to alarms. One relative's car has a factory fitted immobiliser. To start the car you have to get in, try the ignition, open the window, lean out of the window to lock and unlock the car, then try the ignition again. Repeat until car starts. The main dealer's solution was to disconnect the siren.Another car I had with an aftermarket alarm used to leave all the indicators ON when the alarm was armed. My dad bought a brand new Renault, and the alarm went off uncontrollably on the motorway. The RAC man cut the siren out, wrapped it in a towel and threw it in a bin. Also there's some sod whose car alarm sounds in half hour bursts on and off every time we get nice weather. The future is in discreet, trackable GPS security systems which send you a text if the car moves.

[Pete-M]

I've never had any trouble with factory fit alarms or immobilisers. Not once, never.I know a load of people who had issues with diesel Mondeo / Escort immobilisers, but that serves them right for buying diesels.Back in the '90s I had to have alarms fitted to a few of my cars because the insurance companies insisted they had to have Thatcham 1 systems fitted. What a load of shit they were, self arming, locking the bloody doors when that was the last thing you wanted, going off randomly, immobilising the car at the most inopportune moments. Absolute shite. I had to get one fitted to the Mk5 RS2000 I had, when I collected the car from getting it fitted it was insane. Locked the car pretty much constantly - had about 10 seconds to get in before it relocked and re-armed. Used to lock the doors and close the windows within about 20 seconds of the ignition being switched off. People had to get out of the car if I was in a petrol station because I needed the key to open the bloody petrol cap, so if they stayed in it all hell broke loose as soon as the alarm realised.Went back to the alarm place who were spectacularly unhelpful; "All that needs to be on if you want it to be Thatcham 1 approved, if we turn any of those features off we'll have to inform Thatcham and you'll lose your insurance cover". Wankers. After a week I found a tame alarm fitter and he turned all the annoying self-arming shit off.Few weeks later, someone tried to break into the car, screwdrivered the drivers door barrel, managed to open the door and set both the alarms off (the Lazerline didn't activate the deadlocks, so I used to lock it with the alarm fob, then use the key if the car was being parked anywhere other than my garage). Nobody batted an eyelid. There's a scrote with a screwdriver merrily beating the fuck out of my door, in broad daylight, two loud as fuck alarms sounding, did anyone do anything or let me know? Did they fuck.

[Minimad5]

Insurance is the only reason i have popped on an alarm.It "Should" knock off a quid or two (So they say)

[Pete-M]

Hmm, quite often you can get a bit of discount for 'other' security measures... whether they be cut out switches or those disclok things.Aftermarket larms blow donkey cock.

[Minimad5]

I can't afford a tracker, and the alarm has a build in immobiliser anyway.So might aswell use it.Only other way of bringing down insurance, is having a garage (Which i don't have)I do have off-street parking with 24 hour CCTV ... but that doesn't help insurance at all.Anyway ... all is done

[Pete-M]

Heh, there was a chap not far from me a few years ago, bit of a nutter, well, lot of a nutter. Had a Cav Turbo which one of the scrotes decided was worth stealing for the engine...Nutter bloke found Scrote in the Cav, screwdriver in the ignition barrel, bang to rights as they say.Nutter took scared Scrote to a quiet, non public place and, um, shoved a gas powered soldering iron where nothing should go. Then lit it.Scrote has since given up car crime, pissing, and from what I've heard, sex.Nutter was shot dead a few years later.

[Minimad5]

Pete-M is lying !He is doing it for the post count Bleedin' hell, you two sound like you know afew "Wronguns"

[chester drawers]

I had a Clifford 600 on my Astra

What particularly amused me about Clifford back in the day was the freely available wiring diagrams on their .com No dealer logins or owt, come and help yourself. Oddly they weren't available on their co.uk Presumably for erm security reasons