The law and too many shite cars in the drive

[Mr Lobster]

Frightening really that Very enlightening with what you went through NB. Fortunate that most / all councils don't / won't / can't do anything about enforcing it unless you have lots and lots of cars around the place.

[FredTransit]

What I would like to know is what is the definition of too many? If it's only one per driver, I would say 50% of the households in our street are breaking that law. They can't surely think that's reasonable, car addicts aside, what about the couple with a works van and a grown son or daughter? 3 drivers, 4 vehicles. Our mechanic and mate has 2 recovery trucks, an estate and 2 minibuses, and only 2 licenses in the house!

[Station]

Wouldn't it be the good 'covers everything' H&S thing? I'm surprised they can't get you on terrorism nowadays!

[dollywobbler]

We're looking to build our own house, but may go off that idea. We've just checked the parking regs and some dunce reckons a maximum average of 2 vehicles per dwelling is sufficient. Oh and you must provide cycle parking. Even if you build a house in the middle of nowhere.Building my dream home with room to park as many cars as I feel like owning (probably no more than six TBH) seems to be disappearing unless I move to France, before I even consider owning the MCW Metrobus (Mk1 please) that I want.I think it's about time I improved my French and asked a ferry company whether a double decker will fit on their boats... (they must do, we saw two British double-deckers in France!)

[FredTransit]

Right now some land with a mobile home on it is looking attractive, but i can't find a straight answer as to if you need planning permission for one or not.

[FredTransit]

What I meant was I am happy to not have to pay a mortgage and spend the money on me vans! Do you have to prove lineage to say you are a Romany? I know somebody who was chucked off a traveller's site by the council cos he wasn't from a recognised Gypsy line.....It's the planning permission that puts me off, and buying land with a derelict dwelling on it costs far more. Can you move onto a brownfield site?

[dollywobbler]

Sir Barkin - we thought it must be a minimum but no, it really is a maximum! It will apparently encourage people to use public transport or their bicycle. Like chuffing arse will it!

[kelvin2008]

Its not easy to fit in on a traveller site if your family lineage isnt right, A fellow in our village (who was an orphan) was adopted by a family who lived in a mobile home bang next door to a traveller site. Hes been there for over 30 years, longer than most of the travellers but he will never be accepted infact they want him to move and so often break into his mobile home when he isnt around, he even said they chucked poison meat over the fence for his dog, luckily the dog was tied up on too short a rope to get to it. He has no neighbours apart from the travellers is illeterate but works bloody hard with his own buisness and has never claimed a penny of the social. Its true travellers are almost exempt from planning laws, all they have done in my village is set up next to another of the family or in laws and then apply for retrospective permission usually when the kids have a place in the local school. It always works and they get to stay or sell up for a huge profit to repeat the exercise.

[FredTransit]

I think I will change my name to Lee then

[Owain-328i]

I cant belive what im reading! Surely if you have a large driveway, your entitled to keep as many heaps outside on the drive as you want if its private property!! Unbelivable!!!!

[nigel bickle]

If you have a garage -they canttouchanything inside. If howevr,you have an 'outhouse' -and the difference is slight -permission is needed to store any vehicles there. You do not have a legalright otpark on your Drive-unless itwas designated 'Parking'. You only have the right to drive on your drive.I could go on- endlessly. My Barrister created endless great mirth in the Crown Court hearing with a scenario of simply moving an (un road legal) car from the back of my garage - for an MOT- according to the rules the Council tried to enforce. Logistically, it would have taken 2cranes, 5 seperate transporters/trailers and-with H&S -an army of Bureaucrats.Timing-since the MOT was ''booked'' at 8am -and the car wasnt allowed to stay on the drive or in the road -meant we had to start this ''procedure'' at 3.30am, to have the car ready to leave at 7.30am.Unfortunately- enquiries deemed the necessary H&S officials arent at work till 9...

[Father Ted]

IYou do not have a legalright otpark on your Drive-unless itwas designated 'Parking'. You only have the right to drive on your drive.

Which would mean Im probably fucked as my garage became another room in the house many years ago.However isnt there some sort of precedent whereby if you have been using a piece of land for a given purpose for "x" number of years then it becomes very difficult for, say the council in this case, to say that you cant use that land for that reason? I know we acquired a good 15 foot of land as we had been using it for 14 years and applied for acquisition off the land registry and hey presto it became ours. Alright, different I know - but I would have thought it difficult for the council to say that you cant park on your drive if it has been continuously used for this for the last 30 years?

[FredTransit]

So what actually constitutes designated parking? Does it have to be on the original plans of the building? Our house was built in 1921 by the council and I am damn sure nobody on the entire estate had a car at that time. Can't I just put up one of those comedy 'Ford Parking Only' signs?

[Station]

I had a dream last night my neighbour asked me to get rid of my collection of two (working mot'd tax'd) cars in daily use on my driveway.