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OK you so called “Shite Expertsâ€Â! This is the Challenge you were waiting for!!!... :wink:

 

As part of my extensive research into Rootes Group Arrow series: http://www.PaykanHunter.com I am getting ready to announce, unless somebody in this forum can proof me wrong, that the Arrow Series was the most rebadged car ever in the History of Automotive! And this should be no surprise really, since Rootes Group were the masters at the art of “Badge Engineeringâ€Â!

 

Rootes Arrow Series was sold under 7 different names:

 

Hillman: Hunter, Minx, GT, GLS, Arrow,…

Humber: Sceptre

Singer: Vogue, Gazelle

Chrysler: Hunter

Sunbeam: Arrow (USA & Canada)

Dodge: Husky (South Africa only)

&

Paykan (Iran)

 

Your immediate reaction to this would be Fiat 124/Lada/AutoVaz/….. But I have counted and I think it comes to 6, can you prrof me wrong? I say GO ROOTES!!!... :lol:

 

The Shite Challenge is ON NOW!.......

 

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My first thought here is BMC, and ADO16... I'm off to check ;)

 

OK, here we go..

 

1 Morris 1100/1300

2 Austin 1100/1300

3 MG 1100

4 Vanden-plas Princess

5 Wolesley 1100

6 Riley Kestrel

 

All UK market..

 

Thats six, without mentioning the estates (traveller/countryman), the austin america, victoria, apache, innocenti versions or australia. Also "Morris Marina" in denmark.

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I think the MK2 Vauxhall Astra wins. I cant be arsed to list them all. There are about 10 different Daewoo versions alone, plus Pontiac, Opel etc etc

 

Oh go on then

 

Vauxhall Astra

Opel Kadett

Pontiac Lemans

Daewoo Lemans

Chevrolet Kadett

Opel Monza

Daewoo Cielo

Daewoo 1.5i,

Daewoo Fantasy

Daewoo Pointer

Daewoo Heaven

Daewoo Racer

Passport Optima

Asüna GT/SE

 

I bet there are more

 

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My first thought here is BMC, and ADO16... I'm off to check ;)

 

OK, here we go..

 

1 Morris 1100/1300

2 Austin 1100/1300

3 MG 1100

4 Vanden-plas Princess

5 Wolesley 1100

6 Riley Kestrel

 

All UK market..

 

Thats six, without mentioning the estates (traveller/countryman), the austin america, victoria, apache, innocenti versions or australia. Also "Morris Marina" in denmark.

 

As I mentioend above; Version/Models don't cuont, only "Brands" that was sold under.

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My first thought here is BMC, and ADO16... I'm off to check ;)

 

OK, here we go..

 

1 Morris 1100/1300

2 Austin 1100/1300

3 MG 1100

4 Vanden-plas Princess

5 Wolesley 1100

6 Riley Kestrel

 

All UK market..

 

Thats six, without mentioning the estates (traveller/countryman), the austin america, victoria, apache, innocenti versions or australia. Also "Morris Marina" in denmark.

 

 

 

As I mentioend above; Version/Models don't cuont, only "Brands" that was sold under.

 

In which case, Innocenti counts as a brand though the others are duplicates, means we have a 3 way tie on 7 :D

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I think you've actually missed one, wasn't it sold in South America as the Plymouth Arrow?*

 

*My brain might just be playing tricks on me. Maybe I'm thinking of the Avenger..

 

For sure is your Brain! :lol: The Hillman Avenger was sold in the USA as Plymouth Cricket, is that what you were thinking?

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Austin Mini

Morris Mini

Riley Elf

Wolseley Hornet

Innocenti Mini

Mini

Austin-Morris Mini

British Leyland Mini

Rover Mini

Authi Mini

 

Have I missed any?

 

Edit yes I did, Leyland Mini.

Oh, and Austin-Rover Mini

 

Funny, I was just compiling the same list. 12 names, or 9 if you discount same name twice (like Austin Rover, while counting austin and rover separatly)

 

Could be 10 if anyone has proof that Wood & Picket sold minis under their own name....

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Could be 10 if anyone has proof that Wood & Picket sold minis under their own name....

 

That raises an interestion question, lots of companies sold minis as XXX mini, do they all count? If they do I guess you can add Downton, Crayford, Buckle, Radford, Broadspeed, S&A, Rob Walker.... and probably a load of others...

 

Edit: and yes, the W&P was sold as the Wood and Picket Mini

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we did this about 6 months ago if I recall and the winner was, I believe, the Chrysler K platform

 

1981-1989 Dodge Aries (often referred to as the Aries K, owing to strong publicity for the K cars)

o 1981-1989 Plymouth Reliant (as above, also known as the Reliant K)

o 1982-1988 Chrysler LeBaron (coupes and convertibles were produced on this platform until 1987)

o 1982-1988 Chrysler LeBaron Town and Country

o 1982-1983 Dodge 400

o 1982-1988 Dodge Dart K (Mexico only)

o 1982-1988 Valiant Volare K (Mexico only)

o 1983-1988 Plymouth Caravelle coupe (Canada only)

o 1983-1986 Chrysler Executive limousine

o 1984-1986 Dodge 600 coupe and convertible

o 1984-1987 Dodge Magnum 400 and Dodge Magnum Turbo (Mexico only)

o 1985 Chrysler 600 (Mexico only)

o 1983-1984 Chrysler E-Class

o 1983-1988 Chrysler New Yorker and Chrysler New Yorker Turbo

o 1983-1988 Dodge 600 sedan

o 1985-1988 Plymouth Caravelle

o 1986-1989 Dart E by Chrysler (Mexico only)

o 1988-1989 Volare E by Chrysler (Mexico only)

o 1988 Chrysler New Yorker Turbo

o 1984-1986 Chrysler Laser

o 1984-1993 Dodge Daytona and Chrysler Daytona (Canada)

o 1984-1990 Dodge Caravan

o 1984-1990 Plymouth Voyager

o 1990 Chrysler Town and Country

o 1985-1988 Chrysler LeBaron GTS

o 1985-1989 Dodge Lancer

o 1987 Shelby Lancer

o 1989 Chrysler LeBaron

o 1987-1994 Dodge Shadow

o 1987-1994 Plymouth Sundance and Duster

o 1987-1989 Shelby CSX

o 1987-1995 Chrysler LeBaron coupe and convertible

o 1988-1994 Chrysler Phantom coupe only (Mexico only)

o 1988-1993 Chrysler New Yorker

o 1988-1993 Dodge Dynasty and Chrysler Dynasty (Canada)

o 1989-1994 Chrysler Saratoga (Europe only)

o 1989-1995 Dodge Spirit

o 1989-1995 Plymouth Acclaim

o 1990-1994 Chrysler LeBaron sedan

o 1990-1994 Chrysler New Yorker (Mexico only)

o 1989-1991 Chrysler TC by Maserati

o 1990-1993 Chrysler New Yorker Fifth Avenue

o 1990-1993 Chrysler Imperial

o 1991-1995 Chrysler Town and Country

o 1991-1995 Dodge Caravan

o 1991-1995 Plymouth Voyager

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we did this about 6 months ago if I recall and the winner was, I believe, the Chrysler K platform

 

1981-1989 Dodge Aries (often referred to as the Aries K, owing to strong publicity for the K cars)

o 1981-1989 Plymouth Reliant (as above, also known as the Reliant K)

o 1982-1988 Chrysler LeBaron (coupes and convertibles were produced on this platform until 1987)

o 1982-1988 Chrysler LeBaron Town and Country

o 1982-1983 Dodge 400

o 1982-1988 Dodge Dart K (Mexico only)

o 1982-1988 Valiant Volare K (Mexico only)

o 1983-1988 Plymouth Caravelle coupe (Canada only)

o 1983-1986 Chrysler Executive limousine

o 1984-1986 Dodge 600 coupe and convertible

o 1984-1987 Dodge Magnum 400 and Dodge Magnum Turbo (Mexico only)

o 1985 Chrysler 600 (Mexico only)

o 1983-1984 Chrysler E-Class

o 1983-1988 Chrysler New Yorker and Chrysler New Yorker Turbo

o 1983-1988 Dodge 600 sedan

o 1985-1988 Plymouth Caravelle

o 1986-1989 Dart E by Chrysler (Mexico only)

o 1988-1989 Volare E by Chrysler (Mexico only)

o 1988 Chrysler New Yorker Turbo

o 1984-1986 Chrysler Laser

o 1984-1993 Dodge Daytona and Chrysler Daytona (Canada)

o 1984-1990 Dodge Caravan

o 1984-1990 Plymouth Voyager

o 1990 Chrysler Town and Country

o 1985-1988 Chrysler LeBaron GTS

o 1985-1989 Dodge Lancer

o 1987 Shelby Lancer

o 1989 Chrysler LeBaron

o 1987-1994 Dodge Shadow

o 1987-1994 Plymouth Sundance and Duster

o 1987-1989 Shelby CSX

o 1987-1995 Chrysler LeBaron coupe and convertible

o 1988-1994 Chrysler Phantom coupe only (Mexico only)

o 1988-1993 Chrysler New Yorker

o 1988-1993 Dodge Dynasty and Chrysler Dynasty (Canada)

o 1989-1994 Chrysler Saratoga (Europe only)

o 1989-1995 Dodge Spirit

o 1989-1995 Plymouth Acclaim

o 1990-1994 Chrysler LeBaron sedan

o 1990-1994 Chrysler New Yorker (Mexico only)

o 1989-1991 Chrysler TC by Maserati

o 1990-1993 Chrysler New Yorker Fifth Avenue

o 1990-1993 Chrysler Imperial

o 1991-1995 Chrysler Town and Country

o 1991-1995 Dodge Caravan

o 1991-1995 Plymouth Voyager

 

Except, under "da rulez" of this challenge, that's only 6 different brand names...

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I'm going off what would actually appear on the V5, so Austin-Morris, Austin-Rover, British Leyland and Leyland all appeared at some stage during the Mini's life. In fact, thinking about it another 2 did - BLMC and also Leyland Cars.

My Hooper Mini although built from a new shell is still logbooked and listed on the heritage certificate as a Austin Mini Cooper S. Only Wood & Picket I had was listed as Austin-Morris.

Wouldn't like to hazard a guess at any of the other specialist builds.

Also note I'm only going for anything that uses a Mini shell, so have discounted Mini Marcos and Mini Gem etc.

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