French regs 1950 to 2008 - How to tell where from and how old

[Junkman]

Click: http://pdolz.free.fr/plaques/last.php?dep=01

 

1. This will only give you the year of the car if it is still the original reg. If not, it will tell you when it was last registered,

i.e. when the last change of ownership took place.

 

2. The URL I posted is for Ain (01). For other departements, just change the URL to the number of that departement (dep=..) and hit Enter.

 

List of departements:

 

N°     Département                            

 

01     Ain                                          

02     Aisne                                      

03     Allier                                        

04     Alpes de Hautes-Provence          

05     Hautes-Alpes                            

06     Alpes-Maritimes                         

07     Ardèche                                   

08     Ardennes                                 

09     Ariège                                      

10     Aube                                       

11     Aude                                       

12     Aveyron                                   

13     Bouches-du-Rhône                   

14     Calvados                                  

15     Cantal                                      

16     Charente                                  

17     Charente-Maritime                     

18     Cher                

19     Corrèze         

2A     Corse-du-Sud                          

2B     Haute-Corse                             

21     Côte-d'Or                                 

22     Côtes d'Armor                          

23     Creuse                                   

24     Dordogne

25     Doubs   

26     Drôme

27     Eure      

28     Eure-et-Loir      

29     Finistère      

30     Gard                  

31     Haute-Garonne              

32     Gers               

33     Gironde        

34     Hérault                                   

35     Ille-et-Vilaine                           

36     Indre                                      

37     Indre-et-Loire                         

38     Isère                                      

39     Jura                                       

40     Landes                                   

41     Loir-et-Cher                           

42     Loire                                      

43     Haute-Loire                            

44     Loire-Atlantique                      

45     Loiret                                    

46     Lot                                        

47     Lot-et-Garonne                      

48     Lozère                                   

49     Maine-et-Loire                        

50     Manche                                  

51     Marne                                    

52     Haute-Marne                          

53     Mayenne                                

54     Meurthe-et-Moselle                 

55     Meuse                                   

56     Morbihan                               

57     Moselle                                  

58     Nièvre                                   

59     Nord                                     

60     Oise                                      

61     Orne                                     

62     Pas-de-Calais                         

63     Puy-de-Dôme                        

64     Pyrénées-Atlantiques              

65     Hautes-Pyrénées                    

66     Pyrénées-Orientales                

67     Bas-Rhin                               

68     Haut-Rhin                              

69     Rhône                                   

70     Haute-Saône                          

71     Saône-et-Loire                       

72     Sarthe                                   

73     Savoie     Chambéry

74     Haute-Savoie                         

75     Paris                                     

76     Seine-Maritime                       

77     Seine-et-Marne                      

78     Yvelines                                

79     Deux-Sèvres

80     Somme                                 

81     Tarn                                     

82     Tarn-et-Garonne                   

83     Var                                      

84     Vaucluse                               

85     Vendée                                

86     Vienne                                  

87     Haute-Vienne                        

88     Vosges                                 

89     Yonne                                  

90     Territoire-de-Belfort               

91     Essonne                               

92     Hauts-de-Seine                     

93     Seine-Saint-Denis                  

94     Val-de-Marne                        

95     Val-d'Oise                             

 

Example:

 

 

 

So I change the URL to http://pdolz.free.fr/plaques/last.php?dep=75

 

 

In departement 75 (Paris), the year 1966 ends with 1563 TS 75 and 1967 ends with 1999 UN 75,

hence it was registered there in 1967.

 

 

I expect you to know all this by heart tomorrow morning.

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

I knew where from, but not how old.

[panhard65]

Ok so I had a look but can't make much sense out of it.

 The department is easy just working out the year doesn't make sense. I know it is only 2 owners and when it was first registered and when it was bought by the second owner.

[worldofceri]

If I understand it right, 85 HJ 18 is 1968.

 

'68 runs from 718 GZ 18 to 347 HQ 18...

 

http://pdolz.free.fr/plaques/last.php?dep=18

[dougiefourspeed]

Nice find Mr Junkman! That's quite interesting if you're a number plate perv who happens to spend a lot of time in France. Which I appreciate may just be me.

 

 

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[Junkman]

It's an easy way to tell whether one owner claims are true.

Also, knowledge as never been a disadvantage in general.

[mercrocker]

This is the sort of shit they should have taught in school.   I might have paid attention to something other than the French teacher's tits.

[Junkman]

Dunno. Mërcrocaire et son premier rêve humide would certainly have managed to get my attention just as well.

[mk2_craig]

Does the plate stay with the car on change of ownerships?

[AMC Rebel]

Dunno about that but under that system you had to re-reg when moving departement. Not sure what happens now

[Junkman]

Nope.

 

Hence:

 

 

  On 14/08/2017 at 23:55, Junkman said:

1. This will only give you the year of the car if it is still the original reg. If not, it will tell you when it was last registered,

i.e. when the last change of ownership took place.

[DSdriver]

So, I had a traction avant 6797BC75 which I thought was a 1952, that list is telling me I had last years model (in 1974). 

Is there any way of telling if it is still on the road as it was never re-registered in the UK and went back to France?

[Junkman]

I don't know. I don't think so, since it would have received a new reg after its return.

[DSdriver]

Would it? I think it went back to Paris so could have kept its old reg. Unless I haven't read wot U rote proper.

[Junkman]

If it never was deregistered and if the owner didn't change.

[dougiefourspeed]

  On 15/08/2017 at 14:46, DSdriver said:

Would it? I think it went back to Paris so could have kept its old reg. Unless I haven't read wot U rote proper.

Between 1950 and 2009 French registered vehicles were assigned new numbers if they moved department when sold. Generally speaking if they stayed within the same department, they kept the existing plate.

 

In theory the DS in question may not have been originally registered as new in central Paris (75). But could have been in one of the outlying areas (92,93,94,95) around the city and then bought by someone who did live in the city centre in 1974 hence its registration number. Or it could have been originally registered in Paris when new, the moved out of the city and been given a different plate which was then changed to a 'new' Paris reg if it was sold back into 75 in 1974.

 

If you sold the car back to Paris from outside the department after 2009 they may have wanted to put it on a new style plate (AA-000-AA) which would stay with the car for the remainder of its life. If that makes sense?

[mercrocker]

Typically, the whole thing seems as logical and easy to follow as the average French movie.  

 

Sadly, I have learned today what would have been extremely useful to me a dozen years ago.    Never mind, it will add a new dimension to my Norev collection and the next time I watch Rendezvous.....

[Spottedlaurel]

With thanks to one of my French contacts on Flickr, this site is very useful as it seems to give the age regardless of whether the car has been re-registered or not: https://www.moteur-occasion.com/formulaire.php?&step=4&set_nav_mode=IMMAT&ntt_a=1503610322&ntt_ac=/n.ETQXu2QV.OwWt0gIZZ.&origine_contact=Moteur-Occasion&adwords_ann_ref=&immat=EP-784-HF&pieces[]=Moteur&Continuer= Continuer >>&amp

 

Case in point, this tidy little 104 which seems to have lost its original plate and has been issued with a newer, non-departement type one:

 

1977 Peugeot 104 GL6 (1124cc) by Spottedlaurel, on Flickr

 

PEUGEOT 104 - Boite 4 vitesses  - ESSENCE
Immatriculation : ca243rt
N° série : ............
Date de mise en circulation : 1977-08-17
Cylindrée : 1124 cm3  (8 soupapes)

 

Voila. On some cars it gives what I believe to be the last few digits of the chassis number.

 

It's a shame the new-style black plates don't use the same font as the old ones.