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That's a bloody good price I've never got below £400 and that was in 2010!

I'm now 43 and paid £700 with admiral. I do have a few claims though in the last 3 years..

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11 minutes ago, RustyNuts said:

That's a bloody good price I've never got below £400 and that was in 2010!

I'm now 43 and paid £700 with admiral. I do have a few claims though in the last 3 years..

I’m 56 and with SAGA. I think that helps 🤣🤣

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Took the Jazz to Heathrow and back today. 
Not bad for a 19 year old car with 152k miles. That’s from full (42ltr) quite happy with that

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As mentioned on the for sale thread I picked up a ‘free’ Jaaaag today. 
Thanks to the outstanding generosity of @Laney I now own a Jaguar X type diesel.  Honestly it’s a lovely thing, I have always wanted a Jag. And yes I know some will say it’s not a proper Jag but it is actually a very nice place to be. It goes in for an MOT on the 1st April, I have a budget in mind in case it fails. There are a few small things I will sort depending on the result. Thermostat, at speed the car runs almost at the cold stop. Better in town though. Will see if there’s an easy inline fix a la rover 75. And a serious lack of boost. On idle I can hear the air leak sound so egr or boost pipe is needed, maybe even to get passed the MOT emissions? Still returned 52mpg on my drive home so I can’t grumble. 
If it gets through the MOT it’s then a difficult decision to make. I can’t keep three cars, at least one will have to go. At the moment it could be the Jazz as like for like the Jag will be cheaper to run (using man maths) Insurance is cheaper!? Tax is the same. MPGs are the same or slightly better. BUT the Jazz does everything a simple car can and does it well. The Safrane, I love that car even with its frenchness creeping in. I get in it and just smile, that goes for its MOT on the 16th April, should pass as I have only done 2000 miles in it since the last MOT. 

It’s going to be an interesting month. 

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This is the Jag at mine. Really struggling not to titivate and do stuff. I have time to get her clean and ready for the mot. She really is a nice looking car, controversial I know. Also found the service book stamped up to 88k and all major garages too! 

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Couldn’t resist. I have ordered a wheel off eBay. 
I also did a bit of reading and apparently the egr on the Jag can be blanked off without causing the EML to come on. So I have bought a blanking plate. Yes I know I shouldn’t have but I want the car to live. I’ll try not to buy anything else now until the MOT. This is the last MOT. 

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Put the EGR blanking plate on today, can confirm the EML has not made an appearance 😁 seems to have made a difference but it’s been a while since I drove a diesel I’m not sure if it’s ‘cured’ the lack of boost or not. Seems more sprightly in the lower gears. Only a very short trip around my village as it’s not insured yet. The new wheel is due to arrive early next week so I’ll get that fitted and insure for a day and give it a run to work. 

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Insured the Jaaaag for a couple of days so took it for a bit of a run today. The EGR blanking plate has made a difference. It’s definitely more peppy in 1st and 2nd but definitely not a speed machine. It will also keep its speed better and will gain speed if you put your foot down at 50mph in top, it point blank refused before. Had a look underneath and it looks pretty ok to my untrained eye, I couldn’t see any crispness even with a bit of pokeage from a screwdriver. Also adjusted the handbrake, it no longer comes up vertical! But one side is not working as well as the other. Slapped on lanoguard anyway. MOT is booked for 1st April 🙄🙄 I’ll take it out a couple more times before then for some Italian tuning. I’m about 80% confident it will only need something minor to pass, handbrake and possible drop link as there is a slight knock over bigger bumps from the front. 

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On 06/03/2025 at 20:18, andyberg said:

If it gets through the MOT it’s then a difficult decision to make. I can’t keep three cars, at least one will have to go. At the moment it could be the Jazz as like for like the Jag will be cheaper to run (using man maths) Insurance is cheaper!? Tax is the same. MPGs are the same or slightly better. BUT the Jazz does everything a simple car can and does it well. The Safrane, I love that car even with its frenchness creeping in. I get in it and just smile, that goes for its MOT on the 16th April, should pass as I have only done 2000 miles in it since the last MOT. 

It’s going to be an interesting month. 

Let me put it to you like this. Safranes are rare and if you let it go you WILL miss it and at some point regret it. You'll also find it hard to find another.

Been there and done that with two other Safranes. Thankfully I still had the first and although it's been an absolute cretin towards me, I eventually taught it who's boss and got it back on the road.

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6 hours ago, RustyNuts said:

Let me put it to you like this. Safranes are rare and if you let it go you WILL miss it and at some point regret it. You'll also find it hard to find another.

Been there and done that with two other Safranes. Thankfully I still had the first and although it's been an absolute cretin towards me, I eventually taught it who's boss and got it back on the road.

I have decided that the Safrane will be staying. I took it out a couple of days ago and there is no way I’m letting her go anywhere. The Jazz will be for the chop. 

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Jaaag goes in for its MOT tomorrow. I have found out why it seems down on power. The turbo actuator isn’t working. Being a Euro3 engine the actuator is vacuum operated so it’s either the vacuum pump or the pipe going to the actuator. I can move the actuator with a lever(screwdriver)  and can hear the turbo spool up when I do. I’ll see what the MOT is like tomorrow but I don’t want to spend lots to get the actuator working. 

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41 minutes ago, andyberg said:

Jaaag goes in for its MOT tomorrow. I have found out why it seems down on power. The turbo actuator isn’t working. Being a Euro3 engine the actuator is vacuum operated so it’s either the vacuum pump or the pipe going to the actuator. I can move the actuator with a lever(screwdriver)  and can hear the turbo spool up when I do. I’ll see what the MOT is like tomorrow but I don’t want to spend lots to get the actuator working. 

Split pipe?

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8 hours ago, Cookiesouwest said:

Split pipe?

Possibly. It disappears under the battery. If the fail is not too drastic I’ll take a look. If the fail is more than I want to spend on the car then the bridge beckons for it. I’m not throwing money at it when I have a needy Safrane and a fairly decent Jazz anyway. 

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Jaaag got through the MOT, just a couple of advisories for tyre which I’ll sort soon. Vacuum pipe to turbo was found to have a hole, new pipe acquired but still not boosting properly. Goes back to the garage on Friday for investigation. 
With the Jaaag passing the MOT the Jazz was put up for sale, sold within a couple of hours on here, new owner will pick it up after its MOT next month. Will be sad to see it go. It ticks a lot of boxes at just being a car, but having a Jag even if it’s not a proper* Jag is something I need to do before I leave this godforsaken country. 

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Hi all eclectic mix from yesterday's meet old... new.. fast... slow and generally crap..ie my mondeo...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Safrane goes in for its MOT next week. Only done about 1500 miles in it so not too worried. However I have had an ongoing problem with the wipers, sometimes the just won’t work or go halfway up the screen then stop. And I have never had fast speed. So today I set about taking the linkage apart and re greasing it. Before I did though I switched on the wipers with the linkage disconnected, the motor didn’t even work😡 in frustration I gave it a gentle* tap with a handy hammer. It only bloody well sprang into life AND I also have fast speed now! ‘When in doubt, give it a clout’ 🤣

I’ll try it again tomorrow as before they have worked one day and not the next. But I’m fairly confident. 

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On 08/04/2025 at 17:01, andyberg said:

The Safrane goes in for its MOT next week. Only done about 1500 miles in it so not too worried. However I have had an ongoing problem with the wipers, sometimes the just won’t work or go halfway up the screen then stop. And I have never had fast speed. So today I set about taking the linkage apart and re greasing it. Before I did though I switched on the wipers with the linkage disconnected, the motor didn’t even work😡 in frustration I gave it a gentle* tap with a handy hammer. It only bloody well sprang into life AND I also have fast speed now! ‘When in doubt, give it a clout’ 🤣

I’ll try it again tomorrow as before they have worked one day and not the next. But I’m fairly confident. 

That's definitely an odd one, never heard of that with a safrane before but well done for getting it working again!

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I keep getting tempted by very cheap X-Types, I'd be interested to have your opinion about their ride quality.  How does it compare to the Safrane?  (My money's on the Safrane)..

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2 hours ago, carlo said:

I keep getting tempted by very cheap X-Types, I'd be interested to have your opinion about their ride quality.  How does it compare to the Safrane?  (My money's on the Safrane)..

Your money has been put in the right place! 
The Jag is nice, it’s comfy and goes well. However the Safrane out performs it everywhere. The seats are amongst the most comfortable I have sat in, the suspension wafts beautifully but still manages to keep the car steady if you decide to go a bit quicker around the bends. Ergonomically the Jag just shades it from the drivers seat, but it doesn’t bring the same smile to my face as getting into the Safrane. Don’t get me wrong the Jag is still a very lovely car and I’m glad I have it. But if I needed to choose the Safrane would be the one I kept, even with its French foibles and much higher running costs. 

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One reason why I've kept my 405 so long, I get disappointed with ride capability whenever I try something more modern

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2 hours ago, carlo said:

One reason why I've kept my 405 so long, I get disappointed with ride capability whenever I try something more modern

I do think 90’s French got it just about spot on with eat comfort and ride quality. 

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Jaaag has been fixed. 
The ex @calebaaront X type that was generously donated to me post roffle by @Laney is now fully roadworthy. For the MOT it required a new rear caliper and handbrake cable. It went back it to sort the boost issue. Initially thought to be the vacuum pipe to the turbo because that had a hole, this was fixed but still no boost. The other common fail point is the EGR to intercooler pipe splitting. Sure enough it had. Genuine Jaguar replacement later and it’s a completely different car. Gets a nice shift on now. Total cost £366, I’m pleased with that. 
Been dailying the Safrane as the Jazz has been sold and I re realised how bloody lovely that car is. The Safrane is in for its MOT tomorrow, 2000 miles since the last one so should be a pass 🤞

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Safrane passed the MOT. advisories for slight exhaust leak, probably where I put a new cat on, and slight misting of oil from a rear shock. Not bad for a 27year old French car😁

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