ChinaTom Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Just found an edition of Asian Auto from 1984. Just out of interest,ARF price means "Additional Registration Fee" and was based on 110% of a value determined by Customs & Excise using RRP, transportation costs from exporting nation and other sneaky fees to ensure annual bonuses were sufficient.PARF prices means "Preferential Additional Registration Fee" and this price was based on a scrappage scheme that meant you received a rebate (PARF - ARF - some more fees) providing you scrapped the car before it was 10 years old. Also, to get an idea of the value of these cars, divide the prices by 2.29 to get today's equivalent in GBP net of inflation. Interesting how much more the European cars are than their Asian equivalents. The Isuzu Gemini was obviously a premium car - it cost more than a Fiat 131; and actually more than a Hyundai Stellar! A Volvo 360 was twice the price of a Isuzu Gemini. Finally, how nice to see a Mitsubishi Tredia in the sales charts! brickwall, Jon, Jim Bergerac and 2 others 5
Jon Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 I've got to admit that economics-type stuff isn't my strongest type of mathematics (much like calculating mortgage rates, etc.) but was the whole system set up so that the car owner got a rebate for scrapping the car before it turned 10? If so, I guess Malaysia's not a good shite spotting country. Does the system still exist? I guess Protons will have replaced many foreign car sales by now, though. Are you quite sure it's a 1984 magazine, btw? I only ask, since what the hell is a Mini Clubman and Austin Allegro doing on a 1984 sales chart?! Were they produced locally? Nice to see that Holden only offered the renowned*, mighty* 1.9 four banger in the Commodore, except for the top spec 2.8 six; IIRC this stopped being offered in Aus/NZ after the VC replaced the VB model in early 1980.
ChinaTom Posted May 23, 2014 Author Posted May 23, 2014 Yup, it is 1984, and I think there must have been a stock-pile of 70's chod somewhere. During my time in SE Asia, I saw many old photos of life in various countries there with BL chod in it. Thailand still sports plenty of Allegros / Marina etc. There is a picture of a Wolseley Hornet next to a pile of skulls in the Killing Fields museum in Phnom Penh. As far as I am aware, a buyer had the choice of ARF or PARF, so those on a tight budget who wanted a car for life could spend the lower amount, but would have to risk the second-hand market value if he sold it. I confess I know very little about it beyond that. brickwall 1
lisbon_road Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Sorry for changing the subject, but I've been to South Korea which is a shite free zone. There just isn't any. And I have never found anyone who could tell me why. I appreciate that they might prefer to buy new cars, but you'd think there'd be the odd one somewhere - there just isn't, which makes me think 'legislation'. Be interesting to compare them. I think Singapore has some system for wiping out the older ones.
Bobthebeard Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Have spent a fair bit of time in Malaysia over the last 20 years and must admit that the amount of old cars on the road has now diminished. The Cameron Highlands still has loads of ancient Series Land Rovers running on palm oil or summat though! Mostly newish Protons or Japanese stuff elsewhere. Singapore is almost exclusively newer stuff. Mainly expensive!
Ratdat Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Weird. All the Nissans on that new car list are circa 1979 / 1980.
KruJoe Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 L_Rd, did you go properly rural upcountry in S Korea? The shite might have gone provincial. Interesting stuff Tom! LOL'd at the Alfa electrickery.Thailand still sports plenty of Allegros / Marina etc.I've never seen a Marina there... any pics? Agree on the Alegros though, also old Minis and ADO16's. Seems Malaysia had a better choice than Thailand ever did...From the chart, what's the 550cc Daihatsu S60V station wagon? You don't think they were still flogging off old Compagno Estates do you?Edit...maybe a HiJet minivan thing?
lisbon_road Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 I've gone properly rural. There isn't any. It is quite a rich country, and properly rural isn't poor. Even when I went to Japan, I saw old cars.
ChinaTom Posted May 23, 2014 Author Posted May 23, 2014 I used to see the odd Marina in Surin. I'll try and dig out a photo.
gtd2000 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 When I lived in Hong Kong the attitude was generally that newer = better. When I bought my GSX-R750 it was already 12 years old and the local lads thought I was a bit mental to even think about buying it. The bloody thing was in near mint condition and had only done 20,000 miles or so. It's now 28 years old and still rust free, because it's never seen a Scottish winter
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