Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Managed to find the one (non-chain) tyre place in Sheffield that was open today, they had a nice hankook with over 4mm of tread and would charge me 30 quid for that and for swapping my spare, but then realised that the bit that had that looked like a wheelnut was nothing more than a daft plastic cap as opposed to a key, and that the wheels couldn't be taken out. The key was nowhere to be found around the car, so it should be assumed that the chap that sold me the car lost it 3 years ago or something. Muppet. The owner of the tyre place reckoned that the keys are different from car to car so, even with stock wheels, I can't pick a key off a scrappie. This has left me with a tyre that's still legal but only just, and probably subject to the whim of a traffic cop on a power trip. I told him "drill through the bloody thing", and he said that even that wouldn't work... What to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shite_meister Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Depends what type of locking nut it is, if its the three holed type then you can drill the holes out and use another three-pronged key, you can actually buy sockets for this very purpose from the like of Sealey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Depends what type of locking nut it is, if its the three holed type then you can drill the holes out and use another three-pronged key, you can actually buy sockets for this very purpose from the like of Sealey. It looks like it's got a single thin hole, for something like a syringe needle to go in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leonard Hatred Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Hammer a socket over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shite_meister Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 weird, any pics? still convinced that sealey is your answer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 I'll post a pic in the morning (if I don't crash on the way to London- I'm just South of Leicester now- stopped for something to eat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashmicro Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Gator Grip socket? http://www.endeavorproducts.com/ Scrotes who nick wheels use these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtd2000 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Hammer a socket over them. +1 - used that method when I lost my Trilock key...arse! Lots of videos on Youtube on this very subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobblers Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 What car is it? if its a VAG OE locking bolt (looks like a torx but with loads of points) then a dealer will have a full set of keys for them, there are only about 15 combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted April 29, 2011 Author Share Posted April 29, 2011 Will be looking at the socket hammering videos tomorrow, cheers for the tip! What car is it? if its a VAG OE locking bolt (looks like a torx but with loads of points) then a dealer will have a full set of keys for them, there are only about 15 combinations. 1996 Accord- I think that'd make it mk6. I don't really have much desire to ever speak to the Honda dealer again after being quoted 264 pounds+ VAT for the bit of metal that goes under the name "clutch pedal housing". If there's a set with 15 keys in it, they'll probably be selling it for 1,847 quid. Having said that, there's a scrapyard that only does Hondas in Dunstable, and I'll be in Luton on Tues/Weds...Guess they may be able to help out if there's only a limited amount of keys for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I lost the locking wheelnut key for my Renault Megane just before failing the MOT on a tyre. Nipped up to the local tyre place and we agreed that I would chisel off the outer spinny round bits (and be responsible for any damage to the rims) while he used their removal tool to get the central bolt part out. We had all 4 done in about 30mins and he only charged me £10 on top of the price of the tyre and tracking that they were doing. I was chuffed with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad D. Conelrad Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Years ago my dad emptied out his car before sending it for its service*, including the locking wheel nut key. They (Renault main dealer) called him at work to say they couldn't do the service without the key. He called me in a panic and I had to take a taxi into Manchester to deliver this little key, adding an extra £30 to his service bill. I think what I'm trying to say is that some dealers do not have copies of the locking wheelnut keys. * Only occurred to me later that a car did not need to be stripped bare before being sent for a service. When asked, Dad said it was because he was leaving it with strangers, but if I didn't trust my mechanics not to steal my cassettes I wouldn't trust them with the car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Some dealers do, some don't. As coblers said there's only around a dozen or two actual combinatons. They're not hard to shift with a few tools and some careful twatting though, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethj Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 If you're just south of Bedford on the way somewhere you can try the Japanese car breakers on the B530 junction with Manor Rd. Postcode is approximately MK43 9PR by satnav. They might be able to help you with parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Step by step guide here, it's for a VW but the principle is the same for a Honda. http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2684546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Shepherd Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 weird, any pics? still convinced that sealey is your answer: My local garage used one of those to remove TV2's butchered locking wheel bolts a couple of months ago. A five minute job which cost me £45... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Those Sealey products are ace. my local tyre man has a set & I'm often down there ''borrowing'' his sockets and air gun. Just bang it on & wind it off. Simples. Only ever had one really fight -got it off but couldnt get it out of the socket. needed ot take it home, stick it in the vice and belt hell out of it. That sorted it. I'd buy a set -if i didnt have immediate access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futuramic Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I know it's not the shite way; but my Dad had to buy a new wheel nut key from Ford a while ago. I can't remember why; only that he did. He had to produce proof of ownership; but the key itself was cheap. I'd suggest at least asking the dealer first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 I'm happy to report some WIN for a change. Took car to a backstreet place in the crapital that's owned by a Kurdish/Persian/Afghan chap with two sufficiently illegal-looking employees, and they brought out the massive hammer and managed to free up 3 out of 4 locked nuts, only causing a tiny hairline crack on one of the wheels. The fourth one is in the back and has a tyre that's perfectly good for another 8-10k. Cost me 50 quid, including swapping the spare over and supplying me with a part-worn. Only problem was that the tyre storage room was a bit dark, and the part-worn with the unusual tread pattern turned out to be a winter tyre, which I realised after I had left the garage, but I rang and he's happy to swap it...once that happens, we can be talking about a RESLUT!!!11 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 He cracked one of the wheels? Really? Are you sure its not a sctratch in the lacquer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 He cracked one of the wheels? Really? Are you sure its not a sctratch in the lacquer? I witnessed it as it was happening...Hammers stuck nut, nothing happens....hammers again, nada...hammers third time, the nut is still as stuck as ever but the wheel's got a nice little crack between that nut and the nearest spoke! I don't think it's anything to worry about, but it just goes to show how bad things can get with a little bit of bad luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 If the wheel's cracked it's likely knakered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 If the wheel's cracked it's likely knakered. Even if it's only a hairline crack about 3cm long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 If the wheel's cracked it's likely knakered. Even if it's only a hairline crack about 3cm long? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Very much so!, I most definitely wouldn't drive about on it put it like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Fookin wars, you defo wanna get rid of that if the wheel rim is cracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Fookin wars, you defo wanna get rid of that if the wheel rim is cracked. hang on, i'm getting baffled. The rim is where the wheel meets the tyre, right? That's not cracked. The crack is in the middle of the wheel, starting just next to the offending nut and finishing at the beginning of the nearest spoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messerschmitt owner Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Fookin wars, you defo wanna get rid of that if the wheel rim is cracked. hang on, i'm getting baffled. The rim is where the wheel meets the tyre, right? That's not cracked. The crack is in the middle of the wheel, starting just next to the offending nut and finishing at the beginning of the nearest spoke.the crack that is on the most stressed point of the wheel - ie where it bolts on! Look, it was nice knowing you, but so long and good bye. Your next trip may involve a ditch, a 44 tonner or the side of a building! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Fookin wars, you defo wanna get rid of that if the wheel rim is cracked. hang on, i'm getting baffled. The rim is where the wheel meets the tyre, right? That's not cracked. The crack is in the middle of the wheel, starting just next to the offending nut and finishing at the beginning of the nearest spoke.the crack that is on the most stressed point of the wheel - ie where it bolts on! Look, it was nice knowing you, but so long and good bye. Your next trip may involve a ditch, a 44 tonner or the side of a building! Fuck, that does sound quite alarming! I knew the speedy resolution of such a seemingly insurmountable problem was a bit too good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 What we are trying to tell you is DO NOT DRIVE ON THAT WHEEL, It's dangerous, it could break in half and end up killing you or worse an innocent person. This might sound a bit extreme but it's very possible, Have you got a photo of the crack?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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