Bren Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Did the timing chain on my mate's 2.2 signum last year, car has run ok until this weekend, it had an oil leak, and now copious amounts of oil are coming out of the exhaust. Diagnosis? It's fooked! A 53 plate car destined for the dogman. The chains and a fuel pump, with other items cost £440 - christ knows what a garage would have charged. My sister bought a v reg corsa (1.0 litre, 3 cyl ) last autumn. Needed timing chain (no surprise), just had new EGR valve and the EML has illuminated again! I used to have a few vauxhalls - a royale and a senator with the brill cam in head six and a an 85' cavalier SRi with the 1.8 8 valve engine. Reliability was outstanding. The garage wthat my dad uses told him that they get on average six vauxhalls a week with engine management issues - his verdict was they are shite. Where did vauxhall go wrong? I'm not surprised GM nearly went to the wall considering the crapness of their offerings. Rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Ross Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I work for a Vauxhall dealer. I have a 5 year old Focus, 21 year old Sapphire, and a 15 year old Scorpio Cosworth. Also at least 2 Land Rovers over 40. Reliability NOT an issue from any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I have 3 Vauxhalls, 2 well over 10 years old and never had any trouble with them. Its a massive myth about the timing chains on Vauxhalls so fitted. If the oil jet that supplies the chain is fitted with a wider-diameter part it should ensure that the chain lasts the life of the car. Its also important to change the tensioners, and the oil, very regularly. What has an oil leak got to do with it coming out the exhaust? One's internal, the other external? How many miles has it got? Some Vauxhalls do have sensor issues, but if you do the pedal test or paperclip test, the car will tell you what sensor is duff and you can replace it. I'd hardly say they were all a load of rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatdaft Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 plus vauxhall don't make the sensors that fail.go on most one make forums and there are tales of woe for nearly any car. btw is was gm america that nearly went to the wall,gm europe does ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 ALL VAUXHALLS ARE SHIT AND SOMEONE SHOULD BURN DOWN THE MAIN DEALERS. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leonard Hatred Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Especially the ones in Falkirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatdaft Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 zzzzzz old news but i haven't worked for vauxhall since last year and it was never in falkirk. keyboard warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 plus vauxhall don't make the sensors that fail.go on most one make forums and there are tales of woe for nearly any car. I have a confession to make. I transport Vauxhall sensors in my truck every week. Blame me if their fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Especially the ones in Falkirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 BTW, FD I think I saw you in the Doblo yesterday in Gilston Crescent. Does it have a private plate now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leonard Hatred Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 zzzzzz old news but i haven't worked for vauxhall since last year and it was never in falkirk. keyboard warrior. What do you sell now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatdaft Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 aye and its a different doblo,was just heading home before i went to doune hillclimb,thought i might have seen you at knockhill the day,there was a wee bit of a vauxhall display on,they all started no problem at the end of the day aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatdaft Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 zzzzzz old news but i haven't worked for vauxhall since last year and it was never in falkirk. keyboard warrior. What do you sell now? boxes to neds on finance,i thought that was well known on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brammy777 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I'll never forget the time my old College teachers Vectra estate destroyed itself at the end of the day, and never moved again, until it was sent to the scrapyard. To be fair, he was a bit of a dick and probably deserved it.My friend also had a 53 plate Corsa which had all sorts of issues, the EML lit up as he was selling it. But the 1.0 Corsa someone else owned, never had an issue. Apart from being a 1.0 Corsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 aye and its a different doblo,was just heading home before i went to doune hillclimb,thought i might have seen you at knockhill the day,there was a wee bit of a vauxhall display on,they all started no problem at the end of the day aswell. Sadly I couldnt go today, we had viewers booked for the house sale and I also had to catch up on jobs on the cars - way way behind lol. Was Doune a good day? I'm sure the owner of the local garage I use takes his red V8 converted MG soft-top to these events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatdaft Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 na doune wasn't the best,knockhill was good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete-M Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 My sister bought a v reg corsa (1.0 litre, 3 cyl ) last autumn. Needed timing chain (no surprise), just had new EGR valve and the EML has illuminated again! Rant over. Right with you on that one. I mean imagine buying a ten/eleven year old car and having to pay £87 for a timing chain kit and forty odd rips for the EGR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 It would rip yer knittin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I didn't realise Doune was still on the go. Jamie Gibbon used to do it in a Jaguar XJ12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Natural state for all modern Vauxhalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Natural state for all modern Vauxhalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'coli Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I didn't realise Doune was still on the go. Jamie Gibbon used to do it in a Jaguar XJ12. Heather, because it was heather coloured. Early ninetys, IIRC. Happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingJesus Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 ^Worked in the Arnold Clark's across the bridge from his workshop, with his son. Never tired of looking at his Jag graveyard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Station Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 If sensors didn't break, the sensor department of Bosch wouldn't make a profit.I doubt the huge majority of the millions of cars Ford, Vauxhall/Opel, Fiat, Volkswagen and BMW produce aren't brought back with problems for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CortinaDave Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I have to agree on this... Mk3 cavalier / calibra were the last good vauxhalls... I've had everything from a '64 Victor to an 01 Vectra SRi and everything up to about 95 was great, after that - utterly shite. My P reg corsa 1.2 was plagued with engine management woes. i had it plugged in to the diagnostic machine and it lit up like a christmas tree with all the faults. This on a 3 year old 20,000 mile car. X reg Vectra SRi LPG - head gasket went one month into ownership. had the car fixed at a cost of £450, the next day the wiring loom went on fire and it dissappeared in a sea of flames In fairness the N reg TD vectra I had last year as a £300 turdmobile was actually alright for what it was, the gearbox exploded, but it did have 230k on the clock. before that I'd had no complaints about any of the cavaliers, astras, vivas, calibras or victors I'd had. its hard to see how they could have got it so badly wrong from the high of the mk2 and 3 cav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket88 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Favourite all time [affordable] car .....Carlton GSI, in spite of Vauxhall doing their best to screw it up by making the rear wheel arches out of papier mache................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 My cavalier gsi was fitted with vauxhall's finest moment - the c20xe - from new. I think their problem is that they surpassed themselves in the late 80s and early 90s and they have been trying to catch back up ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete-M Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I had a Carlton GSi 24v auto for exactly 12 months (and about 30k miles) and other than one radiator hose going, brake pads and tyres it was utterly reliable. Nice car, too, other than having GM sneeze-o-matic steering. I'd have a 24v Senator if one came along at rightish money. The FWD stuff is utter crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I think there's an element of truth in what you say there Wafers. I wouldn't say (as some others have) that all stuff past the Mk3 Cavalier is crud though, but sensor problems do seem to plague modern Vauxhalls. Having said that I'd put Merc's on the same level and they cost far more money.Not had a badly unreliable Vauxhall in a while, in fact the last one was a Vectra C 1.9CDTi which was rubbish but (as I've tw@tted on about for far too much previously) the Mk4 Astra for example is a great car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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