Formula Autos Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Fugliness at speed: The Lister Storm Then they made a racing version and decked it out in a Newcastle United shirt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futuramic Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 These have always struck me as stunningly bland. Looks like it was designed using a set square during someone's lunch breakI take your point about the styling on this one - looks like someone from Volvo's design department of the time nipped over to Brum to do a 'foreigner' and earn themselves a crafty few quid. That's as cold as ice these days. But I suppose the driver must be willing to sacrifice. A few things like street cred and build quality. I wonder if the buyers of new ones expected sagging sills, waiting for a curl. In terms of ugly cars; new Seats are hideous! Both inside and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Station Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 That's as cold as ice these days. But I suppose the driver must be willing to sacrifice. A few things like street cred and build quality. I wonder if the buyers of new ones expected sagging sills, waiting for a curl. In terms of ugly cars; new Seats are hideous! Both inside and out.I'm actually wanting to buy that very car (if it hasn't gone). They're ultra reliable and very comfy inside. Ace for an A-to-B car, but probably not what you want if you want a car to turn heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leonard Hatred Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 Isn't having a go at dowdy old Rondas for other forums? This is autoshite remember. [/RR mode] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 What is most depressing is that you know they'll sell thousandsWho's going to do an owner profile of this pretentious shitheap? When it came out 9 years ago, the first BMW Mini was quite a nifty thing. It was still quite small and pert. But now even the regular Mini has been puffed out in all directions and it looks crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leonard Hatred Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 I thought the BINI Mk2 looked like a bloated Chinese impostor when it was launched, but that's being a bit too gracious to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSparrow Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 I bet that thing is bigger than a Maxi. Actually, they could call it a Maxi, but I guess it wouldn't sell as well than if it had Mini written on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula Autos Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 I bet that thing is bigger than a Maxi. Actually, they could call it a Maxi, but I guess it wouldn't sell as well than if it had Mini written on it.Part of the marketing campaign is to get Prodrive to campaign it in the World Rally Championship. Although they might end up making it fast, they'll never end up making it beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Formula Autos Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Team Blitz, the MINI had an awful lot to do with BMW, seeing as how they owned Rover Group between 1994 and 2000. MINI was the only part of the company (along with rights to a few historic names) that they wanted to keep - the rest was given away (well virtually, in the case of MG Rover), or sold off to others (Ford bought Land Rover). BMW kept MINI because they knew it contained a good, saleable product. Yes, it had a 'Mopar' engine. This was always the plan from the start, to reduce development costs and spread risk. BMW didn't just buy the thing in from Chrysler. When BMW bought Rover in '94, the MINI was far from finished. So they did not buy a fully designed model then. This was a concept for the replacement Mini developed by Rover Group:So work must have progressed a lot (or a completely new design drawn up) to get it looking like the BMW MINI that we ended up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 I like how even the picture of the Fritzl is so bloated that it buggers up the forum page. I've heard a few people talking about how bloated the new BINI is compared to the old one. Look again, the old one is pretty damn ungainly too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Team Blitz, the MINI had an awful lot to do with BMW, seeing as how they owned Rover Group between 1994 and 2000. MINI was the only part of the company (along with rights to a few historic names) that they wanted to keep - the rest was given away (well virtually, in the case of MG Rover), or sold off to others (Ford bought Land Rover). BMW kept MINI because they knew it contained a good, saleable product. Yes, it had a 'Mopar' engine. This was always the plan from the start, to reduce development costs and spread risk. BMW didn't just buy the thing in from Chrysler. When BMW bought Rover in '94, the MINI was far from finished. So they did not buy a fully designed model then. This was a concept for the replacement Mini developed by Rover Group:So work must have progressed a lot (or a completely new design drawn up) to get it looking like the BMW MINI that we ended up with.Yep, the MINI was a BMW effort. Designs started around 1996 and prototypes were running around Oxfordshire in 1999 with undisguised cars openly being driven in 2000.The best was the original pre-bloated Cooper S with the supercharger. It came very close to the spirit of the original as well as cars like the Clio Robbie Williams. The Clubfoot is dreadful but the Cuntryman takes the biscuit. Utter wank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula Autos Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 More sports car fugliness. The boss-eyed Morgan Aero 8: More 4x4xfugliness. The Hyundai iX35:The press photos of this are usually of the back, which isn't too bad (well, for a 4x4 at least): And finally, returning to the world of sports cars, the TVR tuscan:How TVR managed to produce this, using the beautiful Griffith as a starting point, I'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula Autos Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 There is almost no daylight between what you've said and what I said, FA. .Except for me pointing out that it was developed when BMW owned Rover (and showing an earlier Rover design for the car, which proved their proposal was a different shape entirely), and you saying that the MINI had almost nothing to do with BMW. So no daylight there then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 stop bickering no one gives a shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Creep Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 More sports car fugliness. The boss-eyed Morgan Aero 8:I love these things, I would have one in a heartbeat Also I normally love Falcons, but this one was a horror Then there is: Supposed to be great to drive and I'd love a small rwd car but I couldn't live with anything this ugly. Looks like it was in a crash that bent the chassis rails It's not the first time they've done it though These have always offended me for somehow being bland and ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 The bugeye Corolla isn't bland, it looks absolutely crackers. They facelifted it into something more humdrum on account of it being a bit too mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Ross Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 If you look at the back of one of those Corolla hatches, and squint a bit, they look a bit like the ADO16......... and before you beat me up, I said squint a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brammy777 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I liked them, but obviously in the sea of new cars they do look slightly less unusual then they used to. Subaru liked the design so much they took quite a bit of it into the new Impreza model back then. The Estate models look so weirdly proportioned its fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtd2000 Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 This was a concept for the replacement Mini developed by Rover Group:So work must have progressed a lot (or a completely new design drawn up) to get it looking like the BMW MINI that we ended up with.The lower example looks like a cross between a Ford KA and the Toyota Aygo/107/C1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leonard Hatred Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I liked them, but obviously in the sea of new cars they do look slightly less unusual then they used to. Subaru liked the design so much they took quite a bit of it into the new Impreza model back then.They started redesigning it not long after it was launched.Subaru seem to be a bit clueless as far as car design goes, alternately producing good-looking and hideous cars. The old Legacy, a very handsome and well-proportioned car The new one is a very bland large 'sedan' with some ugly proportions and detailing which will no doubt sell well in the US and China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 How about the latest offering for Tata, The new Indigo Manza?. The interior doesn't look to bad. The board of directors look less then enthusiastic though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I quite like that Indigo Manza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 That looks faintly familiar, is it based on something? The doors in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Lobster Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I'm not seeing much Liana in that tbh, but as Hirst says it does look a bit familiar. Doesn't look too bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 It's not that bad looking really, I just think the rear lights look a bit pants, It's a much better improvement then the TATA Wizbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIH Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I liked them, but obviously in the sea of new cars they do look slightly less unusual then they used to. Subaru liked the design so much they took quite a bit of it into the new Impreza model back then.They started redesigning it not long after it was launched.Subaru seem to be a bit clueless as far as car design goes, alternately producing good-looking and hideous cars. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-con ... per_02.jpgThe old Legacy, a very handsome and well-proportioned car http://spbcar.ru/news/en/i/2009-04-09/0 ... yc_opt.jpgThe new one is a very bland large 'sedan' with some ugly proportions and detailing which will no doubt sell well in the US and China.Apparantly the new one is slower and manages poorer MPG. Talk about a step backward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leonard Hatred Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 And not as nice to drive according to reviews I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 And not as nice to drive according to reviews I've read.I think you need to add some national socialist graffiti to your avatar Mr Hatred! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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