St.Jude’s Road to Perdition: Part Deux // 2008 Peugeot Partner Tepee - HAUNTED/CURSED

15,186 · January 16

2 hours ago, Sigmund Fraud said:

My own DV6-powered shitter is perfectly happy running with a blanking plate, but it's a very early version. I expect that @St.Jude's car will need a re-map, though, as advised by the garage.

Absolutely agreed on the advice regarding frequent oil changes and low ash oil, the factory recommended intervals were ridiculously long and were (partly) to blame for the appetite of those engines for turbos.

There was a famous set of pictures floating around the net of an engine from a 307 that was totally blocked up with sludge and carbon bits, which put the wind up a lot of people. I believe it had done something ridiculous, like 80 or 90k miles, while only having 2 oil changes.

I've known one with 225k miles up, almost all in a C5, so probably the biggest car the DV6 was fitted to, that was sill running perfectly, the engine having been fitted to a Berlingo, still on the original turbo and injectors.

25,406 · January 17

18 hours ago, St.Jude said:

So he’s had a look and it’s throwing a code for the EGR and one for the turbo.

He plans to blank the EGR valve off and see what happens. But he’s not got time to do that until Monday.

If it’s the EGR then it’s either replace it or blank it and remap it off. Which is what I did with the Land Cruiser and that ran better without it tbh.

This is one reason why I did not want a Euro compliant diesel. Here in Spain we cannot get away with deletes it shows up on emissions during the annual test.

Then there is a the adblue for some cars. Refills could mean a coding reset. All way to messy.

22,756 · January 19

Well.

Garage has phoned me up just now. The lad has gone to look at it, and has told me that the turbo is fucked. Gone. He’s inspected it and the vane is sloppy and it’s just goosed. Tracing it back towards the intercooler which is equally as fucked.

I have instructed him to just fix it. Change the turbo over, intercooler, block the EGR and he’s going to sort the DPF at the same time as he’s pointed out that’s likely next to go given the oil pissing in to it from the turbo.

I won’t get much change out of a grand for this.

Is today blue Monday btw?

22,756 · January 19

Slight update - rang the crowd I bought it from as there is a 30 day warranty/guarantee on the engine and gearbox. They want a breakdown/invoice/quote of what’s fucked. Obviously.

Garage is sending it to me with a report as to what’s caused it etc.

1,909 · January 19

What's the general consensus on these engines? My brother has a Crewcab Scudo 1.6 Hdi and it just doesn't seem like a quality unit. He has a Vito now that has replaced it and after it has had a new spill off pipe fitted it will be getting shifted.

22,756 · January 19

Help me out here.

This is the invoice that the garage has sent me.

This seems reasonable, and is obviously without the EGR work.

Doesn’t this seem reasonable?

14,776 · January 19

Very reasonable, but these are a very common engine so parts aren't too bad.

If the turbo was recent perhaps they hadn't changed a blocked feed pipe. Which IIRC was a issue on the earlier versions of this engine.

21,939 · January 19

2 hours ago, St.Jude said:

Slight update - rang the crowd I bought it from as there is a 30 day warranty/guarantee on the engine and gearbox. They want a breakdown/invoice/quote of what’s fucked. Obviously.

Garage is sending it to me with a report as to what’s caused it etc.

This sounds like a real lifesaver for you. I imagine they'll offer to fix it but use cheaper or s/h parts, which I guess is fine as long as it gets back on eh' road.

Do you have interim wheels while it's being fixed?

1,720 · January 19

There is a very particular procedure to follow, involving flushing, changing specific parts etc when changing the turbo on one of these, this is why your probably in the position now as the turbo is new. Without this you'll be in the same predicament in six months time.

https://pmmonline.co.uk/technical/turbo-charger-fitment-check-list/

3,879 · January 19

try BEST TURBO in Oldbury, diagnosis and full Turbo refurb came in at £950 with 2 years warranty

22,756 · January 19

9 minutes ago, grogee said:

This sounds like a real lifesaver for you. I imagine they'll offer to fix it but use cheaper or s/h parts, which I guess is fine as long as it gets back on eh' road.

Do you have interim wheels while it's being fixed?

Well they’ve already come back and said it’s expensive and they want to pay half. I’ve told them no, as separately I have to spend money sorting the EGR and the DPF from the turbo failure on a car I’ve not done more than 160 miles on. Literally. Which is true.

Fact is though I can lean on the credit card company if it does go that way so I’m not too fussed. Just disappointed with it all.

As for wheels, I’m using the wife’s Kia but she’s on maternity leave and obviously wants her own independence. So today she drove me in, tomorrow and Wednesday I’m WFH, but need to be in the office the rest of the week. But the garage is round the corner from work so if I’m here I can drive back it’s no bother.

1,909 · January 19

8 minutes ago, St.Jude said:

Well they’ve already come back and said it’s expensive and they want to pay half. I’ve told them no, as separately I have to spend money sorting the EGR and the DPF from the turbo failure on a car I’ve not done more than 160 miles on. Literally. Which is true.

Fact is though I can lean on the credit card company if it does go that way so I’m not too fussed. Just disappointed with it all.

As for wheels, I’m using the wife’s Kia but she’s on maternity leave and obviously wants her own independence. So today she drove me in, tomorrow and Wednesday I’m WFH, but need to be in the office the rest of the week. But the garage is round the corner from work so if I’m here I can drive back it’s no bother.

Seems fair pricing to me. Can't you just send it back as not fit for use and get a full refund? I would be leaning that way. EGR blank and DFP clean will be at least £250 on top I would have thought.

22,756 · January 19

Just now, tom13 said:

Seems fair pricing to me. Can't you just send it back as not fit for use and get a full refund? I would be leaning that way. EGR blank and DFP clean will be at least £250 on top I would have thought.

It’s about £220.

Normally I would, really I should, but it was bought to do a job and it was hard enough finding this one in the budget without trying to find another.

I am tempted to name and shame the garage but I won’t at the moment. He has said he’ll foot the bill but he could’ve got it done “cheaper down here” - I’m sure he could’ve done, and it’d have had the new turbo and fuck itself in 6 months and I’d be where I am again. Cheap doesn’t mean done right.

7,827 · January 19

2 minutes ago, tom13 said:

Seems fair pricing to me. Can't you just send it back as not fit for use and get a full refund? I would be leaning that way. EGR blank and DFP clean will be at least £250 on top I would have thought.

That's what I'd be looking at doing.

31,281 · January 19

I would have fixed the car and kept it, if buying another one it will risk getting the same problem. And it's great that they want to change the oil pipe to the turbo. Years ago I heard about someone who had a couple of turbo failures after each other due to a clogged oil pipe on one of these engines.

If the job is done correctly and the parts are good, this should last the life of the car and give you peace of mind.

22,756 · January 19

38 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

I would have fixed the car and kept it, if buying another one it will risk getting the same problem. And it's great that they want to change the oil pipe to the turbo. Years ago I heard about someone who had a couple of turbo failures after each other due to a clogged oil pipe on one of these engines.

If the job is done correctly and the parts are good, this should last the life of the car and give you peace of mind.

This has been my thought. Plus, there is a warranty on this work. So if it grenades again within that time I have cover still.

What is nagging me in my head now though (wondering more like) is how new that turbo was and the pipes. And how the dickhead reckons he could get it done cheaper. And how I don’t have paperwork for the obvious turbo work.

It could well be possible this was done pre-sale and the lack of invoice sort of obfuscating that. I’ve invoices for tyres but not a turbo. At least not from memory.

But all that matters is that Jimmy the Nail (new name) has a turbo, can work longer than 6 months, and just work ffs.

31,281 · January 19

21 minutes ago, St.Jude said:

It could well be possible this was done pre-sale and the lack of invoice sort of obfuscating that. I’ve invoices for tyres but not a turbo. At least not from memory.

Was this a dealer? If so, it's possible that he bought it with a broken turbo and himself or mate did put on a cheap ebay turbo without doing anything else.

22,756 · January 19

29 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

Was this a dealer? If so, it's possible that he bought it with a broken turbo and himself or mate did put on a cheap ebay turbo without doing anything else.

Yeah it was, and yeah likely saw it was fucked and just fixed one bit on it.

Makes sense.

22,756 · January 19

Yeah went through the papers - I’ve a receipt for a fuel filter last year and other silly things. Nothing at all for the quote obviously new pipes and turbo. Not curious at all!

14,776 · January 19

Small chance it Could be that someone had previously done the turbo cheap as possible and was advised to get rid sharpish and part ex the car.

Fingers crossed for a simple turbo swap and clean out to be the fix

That is one old looking feed pipe, hopefully thats blocked up and caused this rather than some other issue.

8,345 · January 19

I think the first one of these we did, we binned the filter from the oil feed - reasoning being that the turbo is better to get mucky oil rather than no oil.

6,234 · January 19

17 minutes ago, ruffgeezer said:

I think the first one of these we did, we binned the filter from the oil feed - reasoning being that the turbo is better to get mucky oil rather than no oil.

IIRC, there is a technical document sent to PSA dealers advising them to remove and throw away that little filter ? I don't know when they stopped fitting them on the production line, though.

22,756 · January 19

1 hour ago, ruffgeezer said:

I think the first one of these we did, we binned the filter from the oil feed - reasoning being that the turbo is better to get mucky oil rather than no oil.

1 hour ago, Sigmund Fraud said:

IIRC, there is a technical document sent to PSA dealers advising them to remove and throw away that little filter ? I don't know when they stopped fitting them on the production line, though.

Do you need to do this when fitting the pipe? Or can you do it any time?

6,234 · January 19

8 minutes ago, St.Jude said:

Do you need to do this when fitting the pipe? Or can you do it any time?

Replacement pipes are either a modified design with a larger filter, or don't have one at all. So as long as the garage change it as quoted, it should be fine. Just stick to frequent oil changes moving forwards, I go for 6K and the oil filter still comes out absolutely minging (even by diesel standards !).

15,186 · January 19

15 minutes ago, St.Jude said:

Do you need to do this when fitting the pipe? Or can you do it any time?

You can do it anytime. It's under the top union, I think.

6,234 · January 19

9 minutes ago, artdjones said:

You can do it anytime. It's under the top union, I think.

Bottom, i.e. the engine block end.

25,406 · January 20

Get rid of it...here

25,406 · January 20

Also as this is a dealer you have consumer rights. I say reject it.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/content/advice/how-does-the-consumer-rights-act-protect-you-when-you-buy-a-car

22,756 · January 20

Let’s get it back first before we decide what to do. Obviously it still needs fixing, the garage said they will document it all with photos for me, and I have the written communication from the seller saying they’ll pay it all. So right now I feel it’s going the right way for me.

Of course, if the seller plays silly buggers further still then I can exercise these rights. But I still need something like this too. So throwing it back doesn’t necessarily fix everything for me.

But we will see. We have time.

27,787 · January 20

I've recently got one of these (Citroen) and this is making uncomfortable reading!!🫣🤣

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