Jump to content

Late registration madness


Mash

Recommended Posts

On 15/05/2021 at 06:36, Austat said:

 

On 15/05/2021 at 07:01, timolloyd said:

I think these finished in 1971, so perhaps this was exported from new and brought back to the UK in ‘76?

indeed its an import, and before A Prefix (August 1983), Imported vehicles generally got assigned a registration number based on their date of first registration rather then year of manufacturer

which means you got some fun late registration madness 

like this  1954 Volvo on an R Suffix for example :) 

188656716_10221913440519900_3422176893169120168_n.thumb.jpeg.c942a3caab490c35c7085b261b31d7be.jpeg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, The Vicar said:

Ireland cannot be trusted.

Ulsterbus had a few second hand Van Hool bodied Leyland Tigers from Shearings. On disposal, these by and large lost their cherished plates. A167 MNE had been OXI 525, and was sold back to the UK where it became W386 HKL. It ended up back in Ireland, albeit the republic, as 00-KE-13862.

One time Leicester Tiger/Paramount A21 GBC (from memory) ended up on a 98-plate, and a couple of ex Army Derwent Tigers ended up on 97 and 98 plates. Another Derwent Tiger I can think of is a 1987 example now registered CU51 UCL.

Plenty ex Ministry Dennis Javelins ended up on 14-plates, despite being 2002 models with Plaxton Prima bodies.

Another which did the hope back and forth over the Irish Sea was one time Parks Plaxton Supreme Volvo B58 GGD 668T which looked very weird as G421 HCW.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, cms206 said:

Ireland cannot be trusted.

Ulsterbus had a few second hand Van Hool bodied Leyland Tigers from Shearings. On disposal, these by and large lost their cherished plates. A167 MNE had been OXI 525, and was sold back to the UK where it became W386 HKL. It ended up back in Ireland, albeit the republic, as 00-KE-13862.

One time Leicester Tiger/Paramount A21 GBC (from memory) ended up on a 98-plate, and a couple of ex Army Derwent Tigers ended up on 97 and 98 plates. Another Derwent Tiger I can think of is a 1987 example now registered CU51 UCL.

Plenty ex Ministry Dennis Javelins ended up on 14-plates, despite being 2002 models with Plaxton Prima bodies.

Another which did the hope back and forth over the Irish Sea was one time Parks Plaxton Supreme Volvo B58 GGD 668T which looked very weird as G421 HCW.

It was standard practice once upon a time for imports to be given the next available number, i.e if a 1975 car was imported in 1978...suddenly you had a 1978 car! After 1987 (IIRC) this changed but a few have slipped through the net as "clerical errors" etc. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Yegoloda said:

image.thumb.png.7372517a6a5564f7d3d50a6c7b7f7b17.png

Saw this on facebook marketplace, I believe that the last ones were on a 99T.

Year of manufacture is 1999 on DVLA, but first registration 2002. It's probably an import. 
I've never seen one that colour either. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 2/21/2020 at 11:21 PM, bunglebus said:

I only got this god-awful pic, but this is K399 EEP. 

 

49563193666_39198dfffa_4k.jpg20200220_164244 by RS, on Flickr

*edit* good old Google

 

IMG_0141-e1537289406578.jpg

VW made T3 transporters 1979-1991, and until '92 in South Africa.

DVLA says

 

Vehicle make
VOLKSWAGEN
Date of first registration
March 1993
Date of first registration with DVLA
November 2007
Year of manufacture
1993
Cylinder capacity
1900 cc
CO₂ emissions
Not available
Fuel type
DIESEL
Euro status
Not available
Real Driving Emissions (RDE)
Not available
Export marker
No
Vehicle status
Taxed and due
Vehicle colour
WHITE
Vehicle type approval
Not available
Wheelplan
2 AXLE RIGID BODY
Revenue weight
Not available
Date of last V5C (logbook) issued
20 May 2016

Hi

This is my old van! I sold it in 2016, amazed it’s still about. I bought it in Poland in around 2005, it was then fishmongers van so stank. I gutted it all out in Poland and fitted it as a camper, travelled all over in it. Had a reconditioned engine fitted there as well and bought it back to the UK in around 2007, then registered it here. Got that number plate which I always though was pretty cool, almost spelt KEEP.

looks a bit of a mess at the moment but would love to track it down.

CC5AE054-6259-4AD8-8512-48DC755F28EA.jpeg

704B6F7D-B195-4F0A-ABCA-09ABF469A832.jpeg

1A98AA1F-7F30-4A3F-8816-1A57D019BFEF.jpeg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Just spotted this Fiat / Autobianchi Giardinera on a 1987 D Reg, how? I know Autobianchi took over from Fiat until 1977 but is there something I didn’t know? Surely after 1983 / Y Reg it would’ve got an age related number?

 

BD90D28D-0A42-4D52-8AD7-C4A2BE57173D.jpeg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Prestontony said:

Just spotted this Fiat / Autobianchi Giardinera on a 1987 D Reg, how? I know Autobianchi took over from Fiat until 1977 but is there something I didn’t know? Surely after 1983 / Y Reg it would’ve got an age related number?

 

BD90D28D-0A42-4D52-8AD7-C4A2BE57173D.jpeg

Bonus points for being an Essex mark!

but its on a D prefix plate because as far as the DVLA is concerned it IS from 1987 :)

image.thumb.png.1018057d890cb75abce430ada015929a.png

clearly an import and the DVLA read whatever foreign equivalent of the V5 they got handed in, as the vehicle being from 1987

a bit like that 52 plate 1970's BMW thats a few pages back

(when you import and register a vehicle in the UK, you have to prove its age somehow, and you either do this by handing in the forign equivlent of a V5 or get a dating letter if you dont want to/cant do the former)

although if you look at its DVSA record (the MOT checker) it comes back as being first registered on the 7th of July 1967, so I wonder if someone at the DVLA read 6 as 8 or such

and I wonder if it has been corrected in some capacity but the DVLA record has not publicly been updated or such

normally (sadly?) cockups like this get corrected, if nothing else because people are gonna want that sweet Free tax and MOT exemption

so its interesting to see this one is still as it is :) 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, Prestontony said:

Just spotted this Fiat / Autobianchi Giardinera on a 1987 D Reg, how? I know Autobianchi took over from Fiat until 1977 but is there something I didn’t know? Surely after 1983 / Y Reg it would’ve got an age related number?

 

BD90D28D-0A42-4D52-8AD7-C4A2BE57173D.jpeg

Snap!

D660 UGT - 1967 Fiat 500 Giardiniera

When it comes to Fiats, seems someone at the DVLA can't tell a 6 from an 8.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/25/2021 at 11:37 AM, forbeslongden said:

Pinched from Facebook

2024A407-1F88-4752-AC7F-D2AD832A9D79.jpeg

Back "in the day" i remember a couple of G reg MK2 XR2's that were about, just as I remember seeing photographs of a B plate Mk1 Fiesta.

As an XR2 owner (multiple times) back then the G plates were like the holy grail, not seen one for many many years

G747bnkghK.jpg

Here's a better pic from years ago of G747EUK - a Turbo Technics converted one none the less!!!

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I reckon a lot more mk2 Fiestas were registered on the G than legend would have it, even though production ceased months earlier. The story I heard was that a big chunk of the last few thousand cars off the line were destined for use as summer rental cars in the Channel Islands ( as in previous years ) but the plan changed in order to get a load of early mk3s into the secondhand marketplace as quick as possible, so some of those mk2s came back to the U.K. mainland unregistered, or never went in the first place. 

The mk3 was seen as a big step forward at the time, so discounts for private buyers on the unsold mk2 stock were probably quite significant. I remember Ford advertising money off on national TV after the mk3 had been launched, no doubt a bunch of buyers hung on in order to get the new year letter that August. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Adrian_pt said:

Registered August 83, though sales stopped in 1980 or 1981. The seller claims it's a 1975 model, which it definitely isn't - but it does seem like it hung around unsold for a couple of years.

aro_a656jpw.jpg

aro_a656jpw3.jpg

What is it?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 5/28/2021 at 8:47 PM, cms206 said:

Ireland cannot be trusted.

Ulsterbus had a few second hand Van Hool bodied Leyland Tigers from Shearings. On disposal, these by and large lost their cherished plates. A167 MNE had been OXI 525, and was sold back to the UK where it became W386 HKL. It ended up back in Ireland, albeit the republic, as 00-KE-13862.

Six of the nine counties of Ulster ARE in the United Kingdom. A167 MNE and OXI 525 are legitimate United Kingdom registrations. It sounds like it remained in the UK (rather than being "sold back to the UK" until being exported to the Republic of Ireland and becoming 00-KE-13862.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, horriblemercedes said:

Six of the nine counties of Ulster ARE in the United Kingdom. A167 MNE and OXI 525 are legitimate United Kingdom registrations. It sounds like it remained in the UK (rather than being "sold back to the UK" until being exported to the Republic of Ireland and becoming 00-KE-13862.

My apologies, I did of course mean the mainland.

At the time DVLA ans DVLNI records I suspect were still different things; certainly it returned to England as OXI 525 and became W386 HKL shortly thereafter, before heading to ROI.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 6/28/2021 at 3:07 PM, mk2_craig said:

I reckon a lot more mk2 Fiestas were registered on the G than legend would have it, even though production ceased months earlier. The story I heard was that a big chunk of the last few thousand cars off the line were destined for use as summer rental cars in the Channel Islands ( as in previous years ) but the plan changed in order to get a load of early mk3s into the secondhand marketplace as quick as possible, so some of those mk2s came back to the U.K. mainland unregistered, or never went in the first place. 

The mk3 was seen as a big step forward at the time, so discounts for private buyers on the unsold mk2 stock were probably quite significant. I remember Ford advertising money off on national TV after the mk3 had been launched, no doubt a bunch of buyers hung on in order to get the new year letter that August. 

IIRC weren't there loads of unregistered Mk4 Escorts on the system in 1990 at the launch of the Mk5 so quite a few Mk4s were registered in 1991 on H plates, not sure if any got J plates

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...