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W215 CL500 Good and Bad news Cluster****


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The Machine passed it's MOT today, first time of asking since the last ticket to ride experied, Oct 2022. En route hame from MOT station, the instrument cluster went dim and then, stopped working completely. No gauges nothing, blacked out. That was the highs and the lows of today.

Bugger... Car drives fine, heater, windows all work fine. Headlights now come on with and stay on until the ignition is switched off, related, and the left hand indicators have ceased working, related.

Had a quick look at the 5a fuses for the cluster, there's three of them and they all seem, fine. Now parked up with the battery disconnected. Checked for fault codes, none, it's a wiring or relay issue, or the clocks have just packed in? Anyway, 12months ticket to ride was the mission achieved for today.  Focusing on the postivies.  It's still great to look at.

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11 hours ago, SiC said:

I seem to remember that the regulator goes on these clusters. Either solder joints or the regulator IC itself, I can't remember exactly. Merc want an arm and a leg for a new cluster but they most certainly can be fixed. 

Thanks. The way the backlight went and then the gauges failed thereafter would point to the cluster itself losing power. There's a couple of places I've found which will repair it as a sent in item. It's been perfect up till now so can't grumble too much. From what I can see the cluster can be removed without removing the dash panels which I hope is the case...

Cluster shown working.

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Pre_MOT photie. Now wearing Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres as fitted last year before the Euro trip.

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I'm on the fuse box hunt now, have checked all three fuse boxes found thus far, front left and right and rear under rear seats. There's perhaps another one, according to this thread. But I've had both dash end covers off and it's not hiding in there.  The 3 fuses relating to the cluster are on the passenger fuse box and are okay drawing 12v.

All the fuses checked out, except a couple marked in red. Couldn't get a reading from them. Removed, checked and refitted, same.

Fuse box covers have remained on and closed, no obvious signs of previous water ingress which is good.

 

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14 hours ago, Vimesy said:

I thought that the W215 used a gateway module, not the later SAM unit?

Cheers, could be! I've had a look and it seems there is what looks like SAM modules on both front fuse box sides along with modules for the ABC etc on the N/S. It's going to an MB Indy to have it diagnosed with STAR or whatever, as I'm just chasing my tail and don't want to start fecking with things I know less than nothing about.   :angry-smiley-007:

The good news is the modules appear to have good access, so half the car doesn't need disasembling to get at them.  Bonus!

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Have made some progress via ODB diagnostic. There was a long list of 62 DTCs on 17 systems  to start with,  got those down to those below.  Recurring.

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Pretty sure now it's the front right SAM module which is on the fritz. Items in yellow are linked and communication errors. Next step will be to remove that module for repair/replacement....

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4 hours ago, SiC said:

Is the door module shorting out the CAN bus and not allowing the instrument cluster to talk to anything else? Thus it appearing dead. 

It could well be that, yes, but I'm going with the SAM module first as everything works on the doors even the power close, so I think that's a symptom rather than the fault. That's my hunch at least. Cheers.

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Right front SAM module removed. Couldn't find anything obviously wrong or badly corroded, quite easy to remove. Now refitted loosely for now until the replacement arrives. Same faults remain are current. Have sourced an almost identical replacement, same part number, firmware and software versions, just from a slightly earlier production car. Marked Q4, while the original is Q5. Best match available in the UK. No expense spared etc. 

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New-to-me unit not arrived yet, Yodel missed delivery. Phoned them online chat later, asked rather then wait till Monday for redelivery, I'll collect from them thanks. That was sorted. Arrived at the collection point today, no SAM unit. They checked again. Turned out the driver on missed delivery return dropped it in the wrong bin, which was meant for return to sender and off tae Glasgow, it jolly well went. They, Yodel, hope it'll be returned to Perth tomorrow as it's still addressed to me, ken. I've to phone them at 9am. Not holding my breath... Shit happens. Proves that I need another CL500 as a 'parts car'.  :D

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