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1 minute ago, sierraman said:

That’s not unreasonable, it’s not harming nobody, I’d disagree if there were 60ft Connifers growing round it, binliners full of crap, the building falling down and rats all over the show. I think there is the difference. 

If you mean our Porsche, thats only because Granddad ran out of space and that is on my Dads drive instead.  Granddads yard (which has 'normal' neighbours both sides and behind) has 9 knackered old VWs, 4 trailers, a speedboat and all sorts of other shit in it.  I have told teh next door neighbours kid not to climb over to get his football if he kicks it over, not because I dont want him to , but because there is so much stuff in there that could kill him 😂

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Just now, dan95x said:

If you mean our Porsche, thats only because Granddad ran out of space and that is on my Dads drive instead.  Granddads yard (which has 'normal' neighbours both sides and behind) has 9 knackered old VWs, 4 trailers, a speedboat and all sorts of other shit in it.  I have told teh next door neighbours kid not to climb over to get his football if he kicks it over, not because I dont want him to , but because there is so much stuff in there that could kill him 😂

So long as it’s not impacting on others it’s fair enough but in the above case the guy won’t, despite repeatedly being asked, take care of his property. Whether area is gentrified or not, nobody wants to slave away every month to buy a house and have someone next door that just lets the place go to shit and causes others problems. 

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8 minutes ago, sierraman said:

So long as it’s not impacting on others it’s fair enough but in the above case the guy won’t, despite repeatedly being asked, take care of his property. Whether area is gentrified or not, nobody wants to slave away every month to buy a house and have someone next door that just lets the place go to shit and causes others problems. 

Totally agree - I think that was partly what I was trying to say, just badly.  Even as someone who has a penchant for ending up surrounded in so much of my own crap sometimes that I dont know where its come from, I completely understand the neighbours (and councils) side of things too.  I think sometimes, people like my Granddad just cant see the impact of it, and so cant understand why it would bother their neighbours to have it there, so see it as unnecessary moaning, and dont do anything about it.

If I have ended up with a drive full of shit while I get sorted, Ive always taken a bottle round next door to say 'I know it looks like crap, i'll get it sorted as soon as I can, sorry' kind of thing, whereas that thought wouldnt even have gone through my Granddads head, because he just didnt see the problem with having it all there in the first place, if that make sense - its almost like an inability to understand why someone wouldnt want to live next door to it, because to them its normal/fine.

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19 minutes ago, Nullzwei said:

Wonder if the council now have a lien on the empty property to guarantee payment for clearing, transporting and storing the removed cars?

I know when we had to go and remove the gutters from Granddads derelict place (prior to him agreeing to actually getting rid of it) Walsall Council basically said 'if you dont sort it, we will and charge you for it.  If you dont pay us if that happens, then we will take you to court for it' albeit in a more formal manner than that.  Whether that included an ability to do the above if he had just dug his heels in and told them to sod off, I have no idea

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They do have this power. There was an old chap, years ago, survivor of the war. He was a hoarder. Shit everywhere, rats everywhere. The council cleared the place up and put a lien on the property. The same when the guttering and chimney started to fall down. When he died they took what they were owed first before anyone else got a look in.  

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It's a sad story. Sounds like the guy had the best of intentions but was thwarted by circumstances and had difficulty accepting that his own neglect for so many years turned his once-valuable stuff into a virtually worthless eyesore. He does seem to have been given ample opportunity to tidy up but only made a token effort - he said everything was for sale in the video a year ago but comments suggest his prices were unrealistic so nothing sold. The council's actions were likely a last resort, but swooping in to clear the place while he was in hospital is a bit underhanded if indeed that's what happened.

A tricky one to judge the ethics of - on the one hand it's his property to do as he likes with, but on the other it's causing his neighbours distress and if he was uncooperative doing it while he wasn't around may have been the only way to clear the place.

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12 minutes ago, dan95x said:

I know when we had to go and remove the gutters from Granddads derelict place (prior to him agreeing to actually getting rid of it) Walsall Council basically said 'if you dont sort it, we will and charge you for it.  If you dont pay us if that happens, then we will take you to court for it' albeit in a more formal manner than that.  Whether that included an ability to do the above if he had just dug his heels in and told them to sod off, I have no idea

Councils are quite adept at managing debt. Care home costs for a homeowner would be guaranteed by the property being sold off at a future date, as an example. Maybe there are also other ways these 'end of life' costs are covered. Bad business.

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13 minutes ago, 2flags said:

They do have this power. There was an old chap, years ago, survivor of the war. He was a hoarder. Shit everywhere, rats everywhere. The council cleared the place up and put a lien on the property. The same when the guttering and chimney started to fall down. When he died they took what they were owed first before anyone else got a look in.  

 

3 minutes ago, Nullzwei said:

Councils are quite adept at managing debt. Care home costs for a homeowner would be guaranteed by the property being sold off at a future date, as an example. Maybe there are also other ways these 'end of life' costs are covered. Bad business.

This is what can happen. You need a POA to prevent such things happening.

Unfortunate for my Son though, who will be left with a pile of crap in my garden that suddenly becomes his responsibility should I lose my marbles.

Edit, thinking about it, it's mainly his crap anyway.

Serves him right!

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30 minutes ago, Mally said:

 

This is what can happen. You need a POA to prevent such things happening.

Unfortunate for my Son though, who will be left with a pile of crap in my garden that suddenly becomes his responsibility should I lose my marbles.

Edit, thinking about it, it's mainly his crap anyway.

Serves him right!

POA will not stop you needing to potentially pay care costs, likewise any ‘deathbed giving’ (not my phrase) can be classed as deprivation of assets. 

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7 hours ago, dan95x said:

And if there wasnt enough things in his story that felt close to home, this happens to be one of the bits of 'crap' my own Granddad has left behind I am trying to sort 😂...........

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At least there’s some value to that, even if in poor condition, that means it’s worth sorting out, unlike say, a burnt out wreck of a BMW E30. 

Furniture Village would probably quite like their big blue Luton van back as well 😀!

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7 hours ago, quicksilver said:

A tricky one to judge the ethics of - on the one hand it's his property to do as he likes with, but on the other it's causing his neighbours distress and if he was uncooperative doing it while he wasn't around may have been the only way to clear the place.

This 100%.

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This talk of the old fella not seeing it as a problem or failing to understand the stress it causes his neighbours reminds me of when I sit at home watching TV, perfectly happy with my surroundings and my Mrs comes in and says "Jesus, look at the state of this place" and spends the next 20 minutes aggressively clearing up!

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25 minutes ago, lesapandre said:

She is welcome round my place - cooking too?

She says 'no' - bigamist she can handle but three places to clean is one too much.
'Ang on.
Now she's asking ' what sort of indulgent piece of AutoShite would he keep running for me? Better than a Bini? Has he got all his own teeth? What about hair? Is he loaded?'

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1 hour ago, AnthonyG said:

At least there’s some value to that, even if in poor condition, that means it’s worth sorting out, unlike say, a burnt out wreck of a BMW E30. 

Furniture Village would probably quite like their big blue Luton van back as well 😀!

There is to that in itself, but probably not so much some of the rest of the stuff, which while not quite burnt out E30, isnt far off.  For instance the absolute wrecks of 2 trailers I had been begging him to piss off out the way for years so that we had space to work/get much more interesting stuff (like the Porsche for instance) under cover instead (they were so bad we used to borrow a trailer off a mate of his to go and pick cars up on anyway). 

His reaction was to buy two more also scrap trailers to 'make a good couple from the four', giving us even less space, and more crap 😂 

I am pretty sure the old bastard is haunting us as I broke my phone while cutting the one up a couple of weeks back - Havent broke a phone for years, was just having a conversation with my brother about how apeshit he would have gone if he could see us doing it, dropped my phone on the corner of a freshly cut box section and smashed the screen to bits 😂

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18 hours ago, dan95x said:

I used to live just round the corner from here for quite a long time

Me too, plus spending most of my time socialising around there when I lived in other areas. Can't believe I never noticed this house and the cars.

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I know it's a mess in there - and probably a stupid question - but how about the neighbours it annoyed so much offering to help clear/manage the place as long as he paid.... 

He was obviously out of his depth - step up and help out a bit.... Get things moving

Am I just being naively optimistic? 

 

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1 hour ago, Back_For_More said:

I know it's a mess in there - and probably a stupid question - but how about the neighbours it annoyed so much offering to help clear/manage the place as long as he paid.... 

He was obviously out of his depth - step up and help out a bit.... Get things moving

Am I just being naively optimistic? 

 

Perhaps they’re busy with paid work and their families and don’t want to spend hours cutting back brambles so he can avoid having the council on his back. 

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I mean the guy didn't even live there. 

It's not like he was just struggling with upkeep, at a certain point he decided "nah, living here is shit" and moved out and left it to rot for a decade.

I'd probably not be overly keen on tidying up the garden of somebody's free spare house because they don't feel like it. 

I know there is a big push for everybody being able to have what makes them happy etc, but people have to accept the limits of your abilities and means.

Obviously what an individual does with their time/money is up to them, but I can see why folk wouldn't feel particularly charitable towards him when he has £££ worth of assets rotting.

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There wasn’t anything in that garden that in all honesty I’d have batted an eyelid at being baled apart from the Lancia Delta 1.3 which was probably fucked anyway. The Porsche’s looked ok on top but sat on grass for 10 years? Probably bottom 6 inch of it will be toast. It’s hardly as rare as people make out as well, there’s fucking thousands of them still knocking about in America. 

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An acquaintance of mine had been in contact with Rein and had bought, and collected, the BMW E30. Its not beyond the realms of possiblity that negotiations are/were underway with unknown parties re any of the other cars.

The state of the house and cars is a shame but life can be extremely challenging sometimes and I think many of us could sympathise with being unable to deal with certain issues at one time or another.

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3 hours ago, mrbenn said:

An acquaintance of mine had been in contact with Rein and had bought, and collected, the BMW E30. Its not beyond the realms of possiblity that negotiations are/were underway with unknown parties re any of the other cars.

The state of the house and cars is a shame but life can be extremely challenging sometimes and I think many of us could sympathise with being unable to deal with certain issues at one time or another.

Yeah I hope we haven't sounded too unsympathetic, it's not the situation it's more the reporting of it as if the council had just waltzed in one day and taken his cars when there had been a process followed over a number of years.

I hope getting the cars moved on helps him and he's able to clear and maybe dispose of the house if that's what he wants to do. Obviously none of us knows what his life has been like and can't judge.

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