The £600k Sierra.

[stuboy]

34 minutes ago, stuboy said:

id rather have a db9.................

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185779707130?hash=item2b41555cfa:g:xGQAAOSwBItj7kUp&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoF%2Fb2UuhDmShrJAcINhDfSUlQp%2BQ3xZqiNk6qHxW8%2FqwufhV7nB2Muvm%2BAt836INe1N8okYeNESWzkLCA%2BBOJL49SikUTuTU1o5p%2B6dyTSU422h2OO%2F84O1RDXT0uYV9ggnm%2B7zjoqjtRaaWG5ruVustVs8ZkP453b%2Bz9YEQbM%2FEwmFre0yENafc4EbRrdpODILoDCnD7XlLkgo277nnxaM%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9DwyM3SYQ

[greengartside]

I’m still trying to get my head around how exactly it made that figure where they were being sold not that long ago for maximum £110k.

Even this one “only” made 86k at auction. That was laid up for 30 years and had 8000 miles on the clock.

I am a serial Ford licker, and cars like these are ones I grew up with and saying to myself that I will have one of them when I’m older. Now it’s sadly never going to happen unless I win big or I enter a life of crime and live off the proceeds. There is simply no other way of owning one.
 

Old-Skool Ford tax sucks.

 

[Barry Cade]

Shut your eyes and ill bet it still smells like coming home from the pub in 1988.

600 large for a base model repmobile, with a Transit bottom end,  fancy cylinder head and a turbo, a spoiler,  some big alloys and a nerdy previous owner.. 

These are still worth south of 10 grand in my eyes. 

Blue collar hero my arse.

Give  me an SD1 Vitesse any day of the week.

[warren t claim]

Although I have driven a couple of 3 door Cossies I've never driven a RS500 and tbh, I can't imagine them being much different or better. Back in 1993 a back to back comparison between a 3 door Cossie and a 1990 Nissan 200SX a friend owned had me admitting that the fast Datsun was nicer to drive.

[Metal Guru]

5 hours ago, HMC said:

It’s forever to remain a static exhibit at that price point. Simply using it as intended will hugely devalue it. Sad.

You see rare cars  worth that sort of money and more ,racing at the Goodwood Revival .

[warren t claim]

6 minutes ago, Metal Guru said:

You see rare cars  worth that sort of money and more ,racing at the Goodwood Revival .

But those cars racing wont devalue through use/

[Low Horatio gearbox]

Misread the title and missed the "k"  and was ready to be all over the lucky shitter who'd gotten a one owner base model though his girlfriends sisters boyfriends  aunts dog walker who inherited it of a distant relative and was going to cube it.

 

600k...  thst would buy a house with some land and buildings somewhere and still leave enough money for a hundred shitters  and a flat bed recovery truck / subscription to "world of Ceri  - platinum rust service" @worldofceri for those of us who buy extremely questionable non runners, for too much money,  hundreds of miles  away, unseen whilst  drunk on the internet. 

[warren t claim]

1 minute ago, Low Horatio gearbox said:

Misread the title and missed the "k"  and was ready to be all over the lucky shitter who'd gotten a one owner base model though his girlfriends sisters boyfriends  aunts dog walker who inherited it of a distant relative and was going to cube it.

 

600k...  thst would buy a house with some land and buildings somewhere and still leave enough money for a hundred shitters  and a flat bed recovery truck / subscription to "world of Ceri  - platinum rust service" @worldofceri for those of us who buy extremely questionable non runners, for too much money,  hundreds of miles  away, unseen whilst  drunk on the internet. 

£600K doesn't even reflect its value as a vehicle. 

[warren t claim]

£600K and within a week the heater fan only starts working on position 3.

[Low Horatio gearbox]

Does the ad specify it's working..  😂🤣

Let's  be honest it's never going to see a public road let alone wet tarmac  so I doubt the heater  will be touched (that's when they go wrong y know.,  you don't use the damn car and it breaks faster!) Tho with those readies you can happily overpay  even on super heavily  ford taxed NOS  stuff or get stuff made. I mean @cobblers could probbaly make him a new electrical system factory correct and perfect  and charge appropriately , sure a five figure loom is a bit much for a 10k Sierra but  on a 600k investment.. I mean Sierra.

Each to their own, I'd go for a large fleet of interesting ic could dsily and I doubt even the harcore Ford fans would one uber Ford over 10 other mint  Ford's.  You could have all the Escorts, cortinas, Granadas and Sierras for that .

[warren t claim]

1 minute ago, Low Horatio gearbox said:

Does the ad specify it's working..  😂🤣

Let's  be honest it's never going to see a public road let alone wet tarmac  so I doubt the heater  will be touched (that's when they go wrong y know.,  you don't use the damn car and it breaks faster!) Tho with those readies you can happily overpay  even on super heavily  ford taxed NOS  stuff or get stuff made. I mean @cobblers could probbaly make him a new electrical system factory correct and perfect  and charge appropriately , sure a five figure loom is a bit much for a 10k Sierra but  on a 600k investment.. I mean Sierra.

Each to their own, I'd go for a large fleet of interesting ic could dsily and I doubt even the harcore Ford fans would one uber Ford over 10 other mint  Ford's.  You could have all the Escorts, cortinas, Granadas and Sierras for that .

When standard 3 door Cossies and Sapphires start to hit a quarter of a million quid I'll start dredging my local docks. 

[Low Horatio gearbox]

Thats a way off  tho a  quick google and if I sold all my cars I could actually, not afford a really nice one, or a nice one, I could scrape enough for a rough sapphire tho.   I've still time to tick off  a nice Sierra XR 4x4  I hope, tho the ghia badged 4x4 estate is unlikely, a shame as I would be a twat who either said "its basically an XR 4x4 estate  really...."  or stick 4x4 badges on it poorly and be one of "them"

[Metal Guru]

2 hours ago, warren t claim said:

But those cars racing wont devalue through use/

True, I suppose most of those are more valuable due to racing heritage anyway.

[sutty2006]

Whoever bought it new has squeezed all of the “investment” out of it. How much was it new? Sit on it for 35 years and boom! Early retirement. 

[motorpunk]

I drove what I think was a 2wd sapphire cosworth many years ago, on an airfield. The cabin had that awful Ford feel they all have, and it was all boost lag and OTT oversteer. I wasn’t impressed then and I’m not that arsed now. There’s something a bit mental about some Ford fans, mind. I wrote a piece about a £60k Mk3 Escort RS Turbo being massively overpriced (lack of motorsport heritage, not that fast, lots made, rough cars and cheaply engineered) and I got a mountain of abuse over it. 

[Metal Guru]

31 minutes ago, motorpunk said:

I drove what I think was a 2wd sapphire cosworth many years ago, on an airfield. The cabin had that awful Ford feel they all have, and it was all boost lag and OTT oversteer. I wasn’t impressed then and I’m not that arsed now. There’s something a bit mental about some Ford fans, mind. I wrote a piece about a £60k Mk3 Escort RS Turbo being massively overpriced (lack of motorsport heritage, not that fast, lots made, rough cars and cheaply engineered) and I got a mountain of abuse over it. 

I was very surprised that it only had 224bhp as original. (I did know 500 stood for 500 cars produced not 500bhp. ) I suppose it was a lot for the 80s and earlier “high performance” Capris were well under 150.

 

[andy18s]

14 hours ago, sofarsogood said:

Its mind bending, my mate had a genuine RS500 in the early naughties. He was quite jolly selling it for a few grand profit. We don't talk about values.......

My Mrs was into her Scoobies when i met her and 1 of her friends had a genuine UK 22b..he sold it for 22k to put the cash into his business 

[sierraman]

I mean £600,000 is a sizeable pension pot, if you were say 50 and slugging your bollocks off still and you’d got one in the garage you would be down the auction house pretty damn quick. 

The other issue is everyone jumps on the bandwagon and thinks their old even slightly more than pedestrian Ford is worth £600,000 (cause that’s where they’re all going 🤣). An RS500 was always going to be a bit of a collectors piece but that doesn’t now mean a Mk2 Mondeo V6 is worth anything more than £1,500. 

[5speedracer]

13 hours ago, w00dy said:

Would I have it over most brand new hypercars? Sure. Would I rather have one I could use and enjoy or a race car with history? Absolutely.

It's an awful lot of money to enjoy the aesthetic beauty of a Sierra dashboard.

Will be interesting to see where it goes from here given the gap to the next highest price car. I'm sure it'll bring values up, but I have to think the fast Ford perverts are getting old and they won't rise forever. 

Where do they go indeed, the expert in the video said everyone laughed at him when one sold for £50k and he said they'll sell for £100k one day. Tyrell's Workshop on YT are restoring a Ferrari F40 worth in the region of £2.5 Mil and 1300 or so were made so in that context the RS500 is still good value as an investment car.

The key being that RS500's are now investments like certain Ferraris, Rolex watches, art or riverside penthouses. Yes, it's out of the reach of most of us but so are most things when they enter the realms of being investible. That RS500 has ceased to be object of desire in the "I bet I could slide that all the way round my local roundabout" way and become an object of desire in the "Bet that'll be worth £1 Mil in 10 years" way.

[Cavcraft]

Good luck to whoever bought it, it's not for me to comment on how much they paid. That flannel about the spares looks a bit daft to be honest, and as for another set of wheels so the originals don't bear the weight, well that's fucking crackers.

[tul66]

11 hours ago, warren t claim said:

£600K doesn't even reflect its value as a vehicle. 

As far as I'm concerned, £600 doesn't even reflect its value to me. #allfordsarepish 😀

[EyesWeldedShut]

11 hours ago, Low Horatio gearbox said:

 for those of us who buy extremely questionable non runners, for too much money,  hundreds of miles  away, unseen whilst  drunk on the internet. 

Crap - busted. Cars, wife, house, job - all through the Interweb - guilty as feck 🍻

[MiniMinorMk3]

If I was lucky enough to be at that auction, with a bulging sack of cash, I would have come away with this.

You rarely see boggo stock ones of these, let alone a proper Abarth one. It just shows that rarity does not drive prices, it is demand, and a lot more people want to be Andy Rouse than they want to be Markku Alén.

[sierraman]

The RS500 was pretty bloody special but it is sad when it ends up that valuable it can’t be used as it was intended any more. 

[MiniMinorMk3]

14 hours ago, Metal Guru said:

You see rare cars  worth that sort of money and more ,racing at the Goodwood Revival .

I doubt there's a car on this grid that could be brought for the price of that RS500, and to think they are getting more use than that Sierra would see in a decade.

[5speedracer]

1 hour ago, MiniMinorMk3 said:

If I was lucky enough to be at that auction, with a bulging sack of cash, I would have come away with this.

You rarely see boggo stock ones of these, let alone a proper Abarth one. It just shows that rarity does not drive prices, it is demand, and a lot more people want to be Andy Rouse than they want to be Markku Alén.

Saw this on Harry's Garage sale preview, absolutely stunning car. You can almost hear it on the San Remo or Tour de Corse, car of the sale for me.

[MiniMinorMk3]

11 minutes ago, 5speedracer said:

Saw this on Harry's Garage sale preview, absolutely stunning car. You can almost hear it on the San Remo or Tour de Corse, car of the sale for me.

If you want to hear one on a Sunday drive in Yorkshire click here

 

[sofarsogood]

10 hours ago, andy18s said:

My Mrs was into her Scoobies when i met her and 1 of her friends had a genuine UK 22b..he sold it for 22k to put the cash into his business 

I think they are fetching 250K now. I did some work at an Japanese import place years ago. They had one that was brought over plus the type R, i think, 3drs. 

I was recently amazed at the price of R34 skyline GTR's apparently they weren't made in big numbers and certain models are into 6 figures. wtf?! R32 for me, alas they are also past my budget. That's the real shame that fewer and fewer people will be able to enjoy these types of car, or even see them around any more.

+1 for having a Mrs that likes a Scooby Do!!!

[Barry Cade]

1990s Cosseh owner.

2023 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 owner.

 

Me when the Cosseh was the thing to beat on the street.

 

Me now.

 

Something went badly wrong somewhere..  I thought cars were for fun, transport and... well, other things. Now I understand all those weirdos who never took their toy cars out of the box. 

 

[Metal Guru]

Wish I had kept my 1.8 D LX from 1990. Could have disguised it as a Cossie.