Made in Dagenham?

[Dobloseven]

Just watching this for the first time. On the face of it an interesting social commentary on a lost age. But it's set in 1968 and they're still making Mk 1 Cortinas. However I've spotted a Mk2 1600E which would be in period, a Triumph Toledo which wouldn't, a  face lifted Rover P6 ditto. I'm normally a very tolerant, easy going person, but for some reason this sort of thing annoys me intensely. Don't worry, I get some stick from Mrs D and the grown up kids about it. 

[eddyramrod]

Don't worry, I did exactly the same when I saw it!  I'm not entirely sure I could watch it again for that reason.  See also the recent Agatha Christie homage, See How They Run, set in 1953.  The lead detective is driving a Ford 100E, which ok, would have been a brand new car, but still not capable of what he has it doing; worse though, towards the end there's a Morris Minor panda car!  Firstly it's too late as Minors go; in 1953 it should still have a split screen.  Secondly, panda cars, especially the blue and white types, weren't invented until about a decade later by Lancashire Constabulary.  The things film-makers will sacrifice in the name of entertainment...!

[sutty2006]

I similarly hate war films that use the wrong tanks. I think it was “battle of the bulge” with Telly Sevalis and they used Walker bulldogs which I think came in the 60s. At least in Kelly’s heroes they made Russian T34s LOOK like tigers…. 

[Dobloseven]

Really pisses me off, when there's sad buggers like us lot who'd be more than happy to put them right if they knew or cared enough to bother. 

[High Jetter]

We didn't get an invite anyway!

Is pedantry involved?

[garethj]

1 hour ago, Dobloseven said:

Really pisses me off, when there's sad buggers like us lot who'd be more than happy to put them right if they knew or cared enough to bother. 

It might not be that they don’t know or care, just that getting the exact vehicle might be impossible or at least more expensive.

There aren’t many classic car owners who want to take a few days off work to sit around and get paid not much only to see an actor rush the feeble synchromesh.

[sutty2006]

6 hours ago, garethj said:

It might not be that they don’t know or care, just that getting the exact vehicle might be impossible or at least more expensive.

There aren’t many classic car owners who want to take a few days off work to sit around and get paid not much only to see an actor rush the feeble synchromesh.

Quite right indeed. 
 

the latest “sas rogue heroes” is full of incorrect vehicles…. But finding those vehicles will be difficult unless you’re Bruce Compton. 

[Dobloseven]

8 hours ago, garethj said:

It might not be that they don’t know or care, just that getting the exact vehicle might be impossible or at least more expensive.

There aren’t many classic car owners who want to take a few days off work to sit around and get paid not much only to see an actor rush the feeble synchromesh.

But the film started with archive footage showing Mk 1 Cortinas on a production line,at the same time as a  1968 timeline.There's no excuse for that. Ford themselves must have had some involvement. To add insult to injury I spotted the odd Capri. I actually enjoyed the film in itself though. Thought the late Bob Hoskins was excellent as the flustered but well meaning shop steward. 

[brownnova]

Yeah, I do this all the time. Been watching the crow  spottjng what is out of time period (it’s actually quite good at getting it right.) . My pet peeve is modern style number plates on things set in the 80s/90s. 

Although one of the worst was the awful Kristin Stewart film Spenxer, where cars shared the same number plates, and changed between scenes! I don’t just watch stuff about the royal family… 

My ex wife’s best mate’s partner was a film/TV director. We discussed this exact thing, and I even offered to help them out. But if the film is set in the 70s they are satisfied to go to the agency and ask for cars from the 70s. Not too fussed on the exact stuff he said. 

[tooSavvy]

@garethj.. "There aren’t many classic car owners who want to take a few days off work to sit around and get paid not much only to see an actor rush the feeble synchromesh".

Check out Bilbo, on RR, and his Mx powered MK1 Cav....

I would pay to see Sweeney Consul try to catch it.... lol 😂

[NorfolkNWeigh]

I’ve yet to see any period telly programme or film that I’ve not noticed the vehicles are wrong. But I’ve accepted it’ll never change and wonder how many fashion, architecture, kitchen appliance, furniture, weapon etc etc anoraks are getting as angry as us.

[High Jetter]

It can also depend on the Props department and how much they care or know.

[Richard_FM]

Even in films like Bonnie & Clyde not all the cars are from the time it was set, with a few from later in the 1930s used.

I'm on an old technology group where there's a thread about old TVs & radios on films & TV.  Often ones wrong for the period are used, a common bugbear is to have black & white TV display a colour picture as it's probably easier to digitally paste an image on rather than source a working set & fudge up a signal to it!

 

[Timewaster]

There was a period drama filmed in our town recently, with one street having prop vehicles parked both sides.

A strange mix, a daf, a mk1 Cavalier, an A40 an Allegro, a mk1 transit and a herald among others. Different ages but all suspiciously immaculate.

In reality, some of those cars in the early 80s would have been hanging. Miss matched panels and blobs of red oxide primer.

No crappy accessories either. The real cars would have a few stickers and static strips, plastic wavy hands and coat hanger aerials.

[EyesWeldedShut]

As a kid there was a running joke in our house about my Dad who could not sit through any film/drama/documentary with aircraft in it that were 'wrong'. Soon as anything remotely airborne and military appeared we'd all be exclaiming "That's not a Messerschmidt! That's a Miles Magister!" The varying marques of Spitfire in The Battle of Britain film nearly caused him a rupture and that was before he even saw the fake HE111s from Spain.

Rock on five decades and I'm doing exactly the same with cars - the 'teenagers' here (aged 33 and 31) just roll their eyes and snigger as I launch into (yet) another Victor Meldrew like paroxysm of " ..... that's not right .... XYZ didn't make those until YYYY "

[MiniMinorMk3]

I blame all this film sloppiness on the Great Escape. If that McQueen bloke can jump a fence on a 1960s Triumph that Jon Pertwee had dropped it off, then anything is possible.

[sheffcortinacentre]

Said this before been there done that.

 

Most haven't got a clue what's correct they just want stuff from the period usually at a minute's notice during the week.

Have to look as std as possible (had an argument one day over correct alloy wheels on a car they seem to think they were only invented 10 years ago!)

Hard to get them to understand cars looked shagged at 10 years old  & even harder to find classic vehicles that look like used cars when they're 50+ years old.

 

Lastly it's fantasy not a documentary like EastEnders.

[Richard_FM]

The Grimleys managed to have a car park full of cars correct for the late 1970s, but all looking in car show condition rather than rough & ready as they would have been back then.

[Timewaster]

So are we saying there is money to be made out of shonky fucked looking old cars?

 

We are in there!  £££

 

 

[somewhatfoolish]

I will gladly be paid to sit around eating and drinking complementary catering while a ruggedly handsome maverick private detective gets my scrofulous landrover stuck in a ditch.

[Dobloseven]

33 minutes ago, somewhatfoolish said:

I will gladly be paid to sit around eating and drinking complementary catering while a ruggedly handsome maverick private detective gets my scrofulous landrover stuck in a ditch.

And then the vehicle will have provenance,adding to its desirability! 

[sutty2006]

21 hours ago, brownnova said:

My pet peeve is modern style number plates on things set in the 80s/90s. 

 

This causes me to twitch uncontrollably. 🥴

[lesapandre]

On 12/17/2022 at 11:08 PM, sutty2006 said:

I similarly hate war films that use the wrong tanks. I think it was “battle of the bulge” with Telly Sevalis and they used Walker bulldogs which I think came in the 60s. At least in Kelly’s heroes they made Russian T34s LOOK like tigers…. 

A notoriously inaccurate movie. The tank scenes were filmed in Spain - supplied by the Spanish army  under Franco. 

[sutty2006]

14 minutes ago, lesapandre said:

A notoriously inaccurate movie. The tank scenes were filmed in Spain - supplied by the Spanish army  under Franco. 

Yes, even the landscape is different.  It’s terrible! 
 

reminds me of a film set in England, think it was a sort of zombie film. The English built a wall on the Scottish boarder (no surprise there) to contain the infection. Scenes at the end depict the remains of the English driving out of Scotland for England, along roads in California. It was an ok film before that scorched my peepers. 

 

[inconsistant]

The attention to detail in old films is terrible. For example Kellys Heroes is set in 1944 so Clint Eastwood should only be 14.

[LoftyvRS]

23 hours ago, brownnova said:

My pet peeve is modern style number plates on things set in the 80s/90s. 

My missus tells me off for being a grumbling pedant about this as well, anything post 2001 font on cars pre that date just look wrong, on both TV, in car sales adds, etc.

 

[goosey]

10 hours ago, Timewaster said:

So are we saying there is money to be made out of shonky fucked looking old cars?

 

We are in there!  £££

 

 

My Brothers old Chevy Caprice was featured in a Music Video, I think he got paid about £450 for 6pm till about 12.00pm, the shoot was in a multi story car park in the centre of Birmingham in the rain 

[Richard_FM]

The junk yard fight in Superman 3 was filmed in the UK & has mostly American cars among the scrap, but a couple of offenders slipped the net like a Rootes Arrow.

[eddyramrod]

11 hours ago, sheffcortinacentre said:

cars looked shagged at 10 years old  & even harder to find classic vehicles that look like used cars when they're 50+ years old.

 

10 hours ago, Timewaster said:

So are we saying there is money to be made out of shonky fucked looking old cars?   We are in there! 

 

3 hours ago, somewhatfoolish said:

I will gladly be paid to sit around eating and drinking complementary catering while a ruggedly handsome maverick private detective gets my scrofulous Cadillac stuck in a ditch.  (EFA)

All of the above were my thoughts exactly when I had Huggy!  That's why I was quick to register him with an agency that provides film cars.  I got precisely no assignments out of it, possibly by being 300 miles from London. 

5 minutes ago, Richard_FM said:

The junk yard fight in Superman 3 was filmed in the UK & has mostly American cars among the scrap, but a couple of offenders slipped the net like a Rootes Arrow.

They did have the Arrow over there, as either a Plymouth or a Sunbeam, in the 60s.  Arrow was the model name for those, which I believe is one of the reasons we now use that name for the whole range.

[sierraman]

On 12/17/2022 at 10:14 PM, Dobloseven said:

Just watching this for the first time. On the face of it an interesting social commentary on a lost age. But it's set in 1968 and they're still making Mk 1 Cortinas. However I've spotted a Mk2 1600E which would be in period, a Triumph Toledo which wouldn't, a  face lifted Rover P6 ditto. I'm normally a very tolerant, easy going person, but for some reason this sort of thing annoys me intensely. Don't worry, I get some stick from Mrs D and the grown up kids about it. 

I was similarly chastised when I pointed out on a period drama the number plates were wrong.