Honey Badger Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 V10 Gardner shoehorned into a Granada Mk3, you should be able to see it starting from the international space station, extra points if you can fit a Voith transmission into it even if the driver has to sit on the roof. It would figuratively and literally make Greta choke, I bet it would sound awesome though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, sierraman said: The Rover V8 but as a diesel There was a prototype, Iceberg. This thread is making me think about the imaginary XUD23, a 2.4 5 cylinder XUD. warch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 16 hours ago, Asimo said: Y tho Lacquer Peel, chaseracer and Jim Bell 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Honey Badger said: V10 Gardner shoehorned into a Granada Mk3, you should be able to see it starting from the international space station, extra points if you can fit a Voith transmission into it even if the driver has to sit on the roof. It would figuratively and literally make Greta choke, I bet it would sound awesome though. You can enjoy smokey old diesels without imagining a teenage girl who is correct about a lot of things choking. Dan_ZTT, Jim Bell, mat_the_cat and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 People have been linking flat 4 VW engines together since the dawn of time. Must sound interesting I wish I'd saved the pics of the split window pickup with a second engine mounted upside-down on top of the original, connected by a blower belt. Was used as a recovery truck. I can probably find it somewhere on the net... CreepingJesus, chaseracer, Lacquer Peel and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 18 hours ago, HarmonicCheeseburger said: Allegro with the Rover V8, three speed auto. Cortina with a blown V8, manual/auto gearboxes K11 micra with a 2.0 turbo engine from the Almera GTI. Think the first has been done , definitely has in a mini, few of second one my own MK3 has been since the mid 00's (302 5 speed alas no blower). Wouldn't be surprised if third one has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 13 hours ago, sierraman said: The Rover V8 but as a diesel One in gaydon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Car Deltic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 a KV12. Back to back Kv6 engines. 5.0 Litre/ 48valve. How to exit the automotive industry with a bang, very quickly. Both in terms of road speed and warranty related liabilities. sierraman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 On 8/10/2022 at 3:12 PM, Patent said: Packaging aside, is there anything that would stop a radial 6 working in a car? The 1925 Julian had a six-cylinder radial And the North-Lucas had a five-cyl radial in 1922 Datsuncog, RayMK, Rust Collector and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 A supercharged kv8 - saimesed 1.1 k series engines, dry sump, 2.2 v8 - because reverse engineering a rover 75 into rwd simply didnt waste enough resources on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 bunglebus, RayMK, grogee and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 A 6.0 straight 12 based on the L-series. Sequential turbocharged. For an I’ll fated project to rival the Touareg v10 tdi. Project shelved as money and under bonnet space ran out. Rumoured to be buried in wasteland behind gaydon. sierraman and twosmoke300 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Let us not forget one of issigonis little known retirement projects. To keep him away from meddling in the car division in the late 70s, after the 9x episode, a small sequestered team in his garden shed developed a quarter size, miniaturised a series based on the 850 a series. 340cc/ 8hp. The quest for minimal encroachment of the cabin by the engine resulted in a power unit of minimal dimensions (and alas , power output) rumoured to be used by issigonis as his personal transport to drive (very slowly) to the post office and collect his giro, and visit moulton and berate him until 1987. garethj, Datsuncog, catsinthewelder and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayMK Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I saw this 1906 Adams Farwell on you tube a couple of years ago. I loved its design eccentricity - basically a Gnome rotary type radial, its vertical (axis) crank fixed and five cylinders spinning around it. Surprisingly, not fictional and one still exists. Similar engines were used on many WW1 period aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 11 hours ago, bunglebus said: I wish I'd saved the pics of the split window pickup with a second engine mounted upside-down on top of the original, connected by a blower belt. Was used as a recovery truck. I can probably find it somewhere on the net... AHA found the blighter https://www.oldbug.com/sowdcc.htm Datsuncog, CreepingJesus, chaseracer and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobyd Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I'm deluded and clueless but I occasionally wondered if a 2T diesel + CVT wouldn't be an interesting combo. The engine spins at pretty much tickover the entire time and you just tool around on masses of torque until the CVT gives up a few miles down the road. Unexciting but perhaps economical and fast? That said I was taken around the block in an I3 'S' the otherday and my are they quick... Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_FM Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I did wonder if a gas turbine with hybrid transmission would work better than the previous attempts at using this sort of engine. It only seemed suitable powering Indy cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 10 hours ago, HMC said: Let us not forget one of issigonis little known retirement projects. To keep him away from meddling in the car division in the late 70s, after the 9x episode, a small sequestered team in his garden shed developed a quarter size, miniaturised a series based on the 850 a series. 340cc/ 8hp. The quest for minimal encroachment of the cabin by the engine resulted in a power unit of minimal dimensions (and alas , power output) rumoured to be used by issigonis as his personal transport to drive (very slowly) to the post office and collect his giro, and visit moulton and berate him until 1987. We laugh but it was the sort of crazy shit you could imagine them doing at BL/Rover. Like the time they were up shit creek with their bread and butter range so they divested massive funds into dropping a V8 in a car that they knew would sell a handful or developing a sports car for an obscure racing series that nobody gave a flying fuck about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 59 minutes ago, sierraman said: We laugh but it was the sort of crazy shit you could imagine them doing at BL/Rover. Like the time they were up shit creek with their bread and butter range so they divested massive funds into dropping a V8 in a car that they knew would sell a handful or developing a sports car for an obscure racing series that nobody gave a flying fuck about. Other car makers get lauded for doing silly stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, Lacquer Peel said: Other car makers get lauded for doing silly stuff. Are you a contributor to AR Online? Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, sierraman said: Are you a contributor to AR Online? Clarkson and BMW ruined Rover 😭 I suppose other car makers did silly stuff from a place of stability, capital and profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Rover bollocksed themselves up. They had the opportunity with the R8 to get back on the right track, chuck all these ideas of digital clocks inlaid in fake wood in the bin and make something that people wanted. But as per usual they ‘knew best’ so continued with the wood and leather despite everyone else moving towards brushed aluminium or whatever was the fashion. The 75 looked fantastic on the outside but again they insisted the inside look like a Berni Inn. Everything they touched turned to shit. By 2002 they were in the dire straits, instead of rationalising things they were wasting time and money on small scale projects. Then someone decided the City Rover would be an acceptable alternative to the Corsa/Punto/Fiesta. People knock BMW but at least they had the acumen to realise the game was up, take all the bits that could be profitable in the future and sell the rest down the line. You can’t knock them for their business sense. lesapandre and Spurious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 13 hours ago, HMC said: Let us not forget one of issigonis little known retirement projects. To keep him away from meddling in the car division in the late 70s, after the 9x episode, a small sequestered team in his garden shed developed a quarter size, miniaturised a series based on the 850 a series. 340cc/ 8hp. The quest for minimal encroachment of the cabin by the engine resulted in a power unit of minimal dimensions (and alas , power output) rumoured to be used by issigonis as his personal transport to drive (very slowly) to the post office and collect his giro, and visit moulton and berate him until 1987. Funnily enough, a chap I know has a couple of prototype Mini engines which aren't far off that actually. Two-cylinders, basically half a normal A-series. I'm not sure from when they date but I think it was the early stages of Mini development in the 1950s. chaseracer, Lacquer Peel and bunglebus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Issigonis was ‘retired’ in the late sixties but they kept subsidising him on pointless projects until 1987 when Graham Day sent him packing. Why they kept him on another 20 years after showing him the door I don’t know. Another example of them wasting money on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Two different channels, several episodes about both engines. sdkrc, LightBulbFun, grogee and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asimo Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 minute ago, sierraman said: Another example of them wasting money on things. All car makers “waste money” on technical dead ends. Ford and the Orbital engine, Toyota on two-strokes, Many on the Stirling engine and the Wankel. Vanity projects such as small volume sports cars are difficult to evaluate as so much of their value was originally as part of brand identity and marketing and as such is hard to see in retrospect. Lacquer Peel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Ford and Toyota weren’t on the precipice of being about to go bust and nobody giving them credit. By the end nobody would supply them with things like radios as it was on fairly good authority that they weren’t good for the money. Rovers brand identity was irrevocably damaged by the time they started these half arsed ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer Peel Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Sierraman here celebrating the asset strippers over the people who for all their faults had some interest in the cars and the brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Lacquer Peel said: Sierraman here celebrating the asset strippers over the people who for all their faults had some interest in the cars and the brand. You fundamentally don’t understand business, I can see that. For god sake don’t go out on your own and set up shop. 🤣 twosmoke300 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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