maxxo Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 Huge tinkering session on going, will update when I finish LightBulbFun, AxWomble, AnnoyingPentium and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 right i've done enough for one day, made some excellent progress firstly, removed the glovebox, will make everything much easier i decided it was wise with the assitence from a friend who's an XM genius to remove the circular connector under the LHM tank now what i decided to do was this one end of the meter on the stop solenoid, the other on what ever pins had continuity to it then i decided to apply power to each pin in the connector until i found the one that activated it oh and it certainly did, loud clunk, excellent, so the wiring from there to the solenoid is fine this is the pin so the opposite pin which supplys the power has 0.20v on it, which ovbiously isn't enough to trigger it now the question is, what is causing that to be the case? surely an immobiliser would be a dead 0v, so i think wiring damage maybe? loose connection? got some more tracing to do tomorrow to find out but it's good progress RayMK, dome, Rust Collector and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, jamescarruthers said: On pretty much any car except the XM I would say ditch the HIDs but the XM has average-at-best headlights due to a few bits of wonderful design that didn’t quite work out in reality as the were at the cutting edge of modern lights as we know them. There will be some lenses (maybe missing from yours now) and they will be yellowed with age. Plus the self levelling suspension is meant for such things. I do agree that the colour of yours is pretty awful. Can you change the bulbs? I have yellow HIDs in the C6 and they look ace, would look even better in your XM IMHO. There was a huge topic about retrofitting HIDs to the XM years ago on Club XM and someone put a real good amount of work in to it. There can’t be many people who have bothered so maybe it’s your car?! However, I’m not sure of the legality of a conversion nowadays but you could always leave “as is” unless you fail— I think it is a failure but if a good installation you may get away with it Good luck with it all and hope you can get it going soon i'm undecided, it's far from a priority at the monent anyway, the main thing is to get it running i suspect, i may well be replacing it with halogen however 56 minutes ago, jamescarruthers said: Here’s Ray’s post and I think it is your car, if it used to be L592 EVN http://www.club-xm.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=7873 yes it's EVN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 been reading the book pack that came with the car.....interesting it's a local car to me, was sold originally in Brompton on Swale, which is about 30 miles away, lived in Thirsk then went up to Chester-le-Street now it's back up north! loserone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 You don't have the address in Chester do you ? There was one that"lived" a couple of streets over, that has been replaced ZX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 i don't sadly, was it the same colour.......reg ending EVN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVee8 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Yeah, I think it is the same colour, no idea about the reg. It could be in the lazy spotters thread. It has been gone a couple of years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, DVee8 said: Yeah, I think it is the same colour, no idea about the reg. It could be in the lazy spotters thread. It has been gone a couple of years now. surely can't have been many around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 More tinkering on going Reconnected and cleaned up the glow plug relay, that's working as it should however, something is stopping power from reaching the fuel solenoid All wiring looks fine, connectors are clean, yet not even a single volt being sent to it Dyslexic Viking, Tickman and LightBulbFun 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Not sure if you've ruled this out already, but might there be an old fashioned anti-theft kill switch hidden somewhere that's isolating that solenoid? wesacosa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesacosa Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, maxxo said: More tinkering on going Reconnected and cleaned up the glow plug relay, that's working as it should however, something is stopping power from reaching the fuel solenoid All wiring looks fine, connectors are clean, yet not even a single volt being sent to it might be worth a post on Club-xm. there are some pretty knowledgeable guys on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescarruthers Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, wesacosa said: might be worth a post on Club-xm. there are some pretty knowledgeable guys on there. Agreed. I don’t think I’ve ever been on a forum like it for knowledge and dog-with-a-bone enthusiasm to get XMs working. Knowledge is key and they’ve got it. wesacosa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesacosa Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, jamescarruthers said: Agreed. I don’t think I’ve ever been on a forum like it for knowledge and dog-with-a-bone enthusiasm to get XMs working. Knowledge is key and they’ve got it. I would have sacked mine off, or still had it in bits on the drive if not for the guys on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Hope you get this going! As it's a 'known car' in XM circles, someone somewhere should have a few pointers on where to look. Can confirm that Club XM's one of the better single-model clubs out there; plenty of enthusiasts with mechanical knowledge and experience to back it up. I once had a Cortina fitted with an aftermarket immobiliser where the activation switch was hidden under the carpet in the driver's footwell. Basically you had to kick at the corner where the bulkhead met the transmission tunnel in order to get it to start. The floor wasn't really all that sound, and... well, you can probably guess the rest. catsinthewelder, dome, myglaren and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Excuse the swearing 20220425_152047.mp4 Crackers, OM646, AxWomble and 33 others 25 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescarruthers Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, maxxo said: Excuse the swearing 20220425_152047.mp4 Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Once I get out the bath ill do a proper write up It's been immensely successful today Tickman, chodweaver, Rust Collector and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescarruthers Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 You may have realised this already but I was having a poke around Club XM today and realised that this is the car that Ray was driven around France in with a bunch of XMs, in for his last big trip when he knew he was on his way out. So in 2017 this was blasted to France and Spain. http://www.club-xm.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8734&hilit=Gibraltar Seems it has mega floaty spheres on it, which you may or may not like but should be easily put back to standard if you want to Really pleased you’ve got it going! 500tops, wesacosa, Dick Longbridge and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, jamescarruthers said: You may have realised this already but I was having a poke around Club XM today and realised that this is the car that Ray was driven around France in with a bunch of XMs, in for his last big trip when he knew he was on his way out. So in 2017 this was blasted to France and Spain. http://www.club-xm.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8734&hilit=Gibraltar Seems it has mega floaty spheres on it, which you may or may not like but should be easily put back to standard if you want to Really pleased you’ve got it going! Yes driven by my friend Alan on the trip too! CX spheres apparently, can't wait to experience it richykitchy and jamescarruthers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 right today was one of the best tinkering session's i've ever had decided to get the car out the garage and work on the LHM leak as you can see here, all supported correctly with brand new stands (good quality they feel too!) enjoy the scabby sill! new pipe was easy to fit, old one was quite perished actually, certainly not surprising with the amount of fluid it lost! nice shiny new one......of course, i cut it down to size so it doesn't foul on anything also note the cut wiring.....abs sensor? that could be a concern........i want the abs to work whilst i had the car in the air i decided i would take a good look underneath and the verdict is excellent, really solid actually! this is the only real rot i could find, on the boot floor, non structual by the looks of it so i'll just tidy it up a bit in the coming days so the LHM leak is taken care of, filled up as much as i could as i can't adjust the suspension due to the selector lever being stuck (job for the coming days) managed to get the power steering working, the STOP light off and the suspension feeling good again now the big thing, i decided i would take care of the starting issue no voltage going to the fuel solenoid, now could it be an immobilioser? who knows, but i've managed to fix it and i will show you how shortly next thing was to get the glowplug system working correctly i cleaned up the contacts on the relay, made sure it was all shiny and looking good and connected it all back up WE HAVE ILLUMINATION! so another thing sorted, excellent i was talking to my friend Paul from wales, who's an XM expert and he told me to add a new supply so i did from pin 3 of the plug relay i spliced into the cable, soldered a new piece of wiring (not one of the scraps from the car, a brand new piece from halfords) soldered it all up, added some insulating tape and then the big moment fired right up! and stopped again too! so i've sorted the LHM leak, got it starting and stopping from the key and the glowplugs working correctly glove box is removed whilst i work on sorting it out, shouldn't be too hard, got a few ideas next to do is getting the suspension working correctly, sorting the electric windows and seats, getting a few other electrical issues sorted and then well i dare say i may chuck it in for an MOT rainagain, wesacosa, tooSavvy and 22 others 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 oh i'm going to paint the sills in underseal, sure it won't look factory fresh but it'll protect them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 also did a bit of painting the old hammerite kurust on every spot of rust i could see on the passenger side, so far it's looking much better! Datsuncog, Inspector Morose, Tickman and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Great work so far. As for undersealing the sills though... worst thing you could do if you want to keep the rust at bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dick Longbridge said: Great work so far. As for undersealing the sills though... worst thing you could do if you want to keep the rust at bay. Do we reckon rust converter, primer it and then paint? Dick Longbridge, Dyslexic Viking, AnnoyingPentium and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 You need to take a spinning wire wheel of death to those sill ends before painting them with some good primer and topcoat. Otherwise it'll come back after a season. I also wonder if the cut wires are the brake pad wear leads. If they are, I doubt they're all that necessary. Apart from that, catsinthewelder, maxxo, AnnoyingPentium and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Also going to need a pair of front tyres soon Tread is fine but sidewall is cracked, not comfortable driving far on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Fumbler said: You need to take a spinning wire wheel of death to those sill ends before painting them with some good primer and topcoat. Otherwise it'll come back after a season. I also wonder if the cut wires are the brake pad wear leads. If they are, I doubt they're all that necessary. Apart from that, I've got a dremel with many tools, so I'll get all the loose paint off and treat it then Fumbler, Dyslexic Viking and FakeConcern 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, maxxo said: Do we reckon rust converter, primer it and then paint? 3 minutes ago, maxxo said: I've got a dremel with many tools, so I'll get all the loose paint off and treat it then This sounds good. And I use a Dremel copy a lot to grind rust works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, HarmonicCheeseburger said: How long until you can sit inside and go Car goes up Car goes down Car goes up Car goes down Car goes up *POP* Fucks sake.. Unsure I'm afraid! But hydropneumatic suspension is superbly reliable Well, the system on the C5 is, so I'm sure this will be too FakeConcern, AnnoyingPentium, tooSavvy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Well done man, fantastic work. I've always wanted an XM. In fact any floating Citroen. You must feel very satisfied. Get it in for a test while the going's good HarmonicCheeseburger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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