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8 minutes ago, DirtyDaily said:

Those banana arms look fine. That sideways movement isn't the way it should be moving anyway. Its the rear lower wishbones where the bushes are most susceptible

Thanks. These are the ones that are apparently at a 45 degree angle from where they should be and make the car dangerous to drive on ... 

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Sadly this seems to very much parallel my own experiences when I put my Xantia into a supposed specialist to have a wishbone bush changed.  They quoted me around £1500 worth of work needed, claimed the car was dangerous to drive and had handed me a courtesy car which was running on fumes and *was* borderline dangerous to drive.  Definitely *was* when it started raining as I discovered (while on the M1 in busy traffic) that the driver's side windscreen wiper didn't have any actual blade left.

They told me it would be several days before they could look at it, so I fuelled up the car...fifteen minutes after I got in the door they phoned me with the "bad news."

I was not amused.  Especially when they'd already got £70+ of diesel out of me and they still charged me another £35 for the "professional inspection" of the car.

The tailpipe which had a smallish blow in when I left the house mysteriously progressed to "it's just fallen off" about 1/2 a mile after leaving for home...funny that.

With the bush I had put it in there to have changed done and a new rear silencer on strangely enough it went straight through the MOT without a hint of a mention of terminally borked radius arms or major hydraulic leaks...

Suffice to say I'll never be darkening their door again.

Lesson learned, irrespective of a fancy badge over the door or not, I'm just sticking to the local garage I trust in future.

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10 minutes ago, Zelandeth said:

Sadly this seems to very much parallel my own experiences when I put my Xantia into a supposed specialist to have a wishbone bush changed.  They quoted me around £1500 worth of work needed, claimed the car was dangerous to drive and had handed me a courtesy car which was running on fumes and *was* borderline dangerous to drive.  Definitely *was* when it started raining as I discovered (while on the M1 in busy traffic) that the driver's side windscreen wiper didn't have any actual blade left.

They told me it would be several days before they could look at it, so I fuelled up the car...fifteen minutes after I got in the door they phoned me with the "bad news."

I was not amused.  Especially when they'd already got £70+ of diesel out of me and they still charged me another £35 for the "professional inspection" of the car.

The tailpipe which had a smallish blow in when I left the house mysteriously progressed to "it's just fallen off" about 1/2 a mile after leaving for home...funny that.

With the bush I had put it in there to have changed done and a new rear silencer on strangely enough it went straight through the MOT without a hint of a mention of terminally borked radius arms or major hydraulic leaks...

Suffice to say I'll never be darkening their door again.

Lesson learned, irrespective of a fancy badge over the door or not, I'm just sticking to the local garage I trust in future.

That's my experience of Citroen specialists in the past. It's a win win for them to charge vast sums for jobs that aren't really very difficult. If the customer bites then they are quids in. If the customer can't afford it then they buy the car for weigh in price, scrap it, and sell the bits off for 60% of Citroen new retail. So quids in again.

Hydro Citroens from the BX on aren't really very difficult to work on, unless the sight of a few hydraulic pipes sends you into a tizzy.

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Its like they are finding ways to piss me off. Specialist said he had a guy that could transport it for me. Fine, let me know how much.  70 quid.  Fine, thanks.  

Then at 1630 I get a call from a bloke - I'm outside your house where are you. Em, you didn't tell me it was happening tonight, and I'm in the office and the postcode I gave you is a garage, but please drop it with them.  What about payment? Let me know your bank details and I'll transfer you. This price is a cash job mate.  Well I'm not there so your options are bank transfer or drive it back to the specialist.  Will the garage pay me? No, and don't ask them to.  Oh, will speak to specialist and call you back in a minute. 

Half an hour later get a call from my friendly local garage - your cars here, but the bloke made us pay 70 quid for the transport, can you come settle it?  Bloody cheek of him, I told him explicitly not to ask the garage to pay for it! 

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23 minutes ago, dome said:

Surely if they were talking bollocks then you didn't actually need to get it transported?

Agreed though, the "specialist" needs named and shamed, they sound dodgy as fuck

 

Well I don't know if he was talking bollocks and it would be less than ideal if it did fail on the way to the garage and I had to explain to the insurer/police why I drove it when I had been told it wasn't fit to drive. I'm sure it would have been fine but best not to take the risk.

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28 minutes ago, tooSavvy said:

Jeez.... What A Pallavva!! 😵

I'm reminded of shaggy dog story/life lesson....

"I've bought a boat!"

6 months later... Mooring fees/contaminated fuel/6" of water in keel/shit weather= never actually got to go out...

"Fuc#ing boat!!"

🤐

Well let's hope my normal trusted garage can get it sorted, I can attend to things like discs and pads etc myself down the line. 

Dropped in to see them this morning, apparently the tow truck driver yesterday was very aggressive to the garage and threatening to scrap my car if they didn't pay him in cash.  Cheeky c**t. 

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28 minutes ago, PrinceRupert said:

Well let's hope my normal trusted garage can get it sorted, I can attend to things like discs and pads etc myself down the line. 

Dropped in to see them this morning, apparently the tow truck driver yesterday was very aggressive to the garage and threatening to scrap my car if they didn't pay him in cash.  Cheeky c**t. 

Like @DodgyBastard with the 505 . Lesson is use people who come with recommendations like ceri off here. Hope you get sorted bud

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1 hour ago, Matty said:

Like @DodgyBastard with the 505 . Lesson is use people who come with recommendations like ceri off here. Hope you get sorted bud

Not really the same situation, this is a shonky aggressive garage that sounds like they're fucked off because they saw an opportunity to rip a customer off and got denied.

This garage REALLY needs naming and shaming, as this is the kind of shit that if they've tried it on with you, they get away with countless times for less fortunate people.

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46 minutes ago, RichardK said:

Not really the same situation, this is a shonky aggressive garage that sounds like they're fucked off because they saw an opportunity to rip a customer off and got denied.

This garage REALLY needs naming and shaming, as this is the kind of shit that if they've tried it on with you, they get away with countless times for less fortunate people.

I'm going to hold the pitchforks until I have my second opinion ... 🤐

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On 2/15/2022 at 11:10 AM, PrinceRupert said:

cheating and putting it into a local Jag specialist.  At 90 quid an hour + VAT he isn't cheap, but my local garage is 70 odd quid + VAT and I figure the specialist is more likely to get to the right answer more quickly

I read that a month ago and found myself wholeheartedly agreeing. How frustrating then that it turned out to be the wrong call. As a result I am probably going to chuck my 3 series at our usual garage for its next service, rather than either of the local “German car specialists” - even though the labour rate is identical. 

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1 hour ago, mk2_craig said:

I read that a month ago and found myself wholeheartedly agreeing. How frustrating then that it turned out to be the wrong call. As a result I am probably going to chuck my 3 series at our usual garage for its next service, rather than either of the local “German car specialists” - even though the labour rate is identical. 

Some are good. My uncle is a mechanic of some 40 years standing and a bloody good one at that. However, for the two old BMWs I have, a family I know run a BMW specialist that can do bits and pieces our Tony doesn't have the specific kit for. They are just as good and honest as he is with me. Don't despair, not everyone is a cowboy

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46 minutes ago, Matty said:

Some are good. My uncle is a mechanic of some 40 years standing and a bloody good one at that. However, for the two old BMWs I have, a family I know run a BMW specialist that can do bits and pieces our Tony doesn't have the specific kit for. They are just as good and honest as he is with me. Don't despair, not everyone is a cowboy

The 75 specialist is Wales is a top lad too, so they're not all shysters

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On 3/16/2022 at 11:36 AM, DirtyDaily said:

Those banana arms look fine. That sideways movement isn't the way it should be moving anyway. Its the rear lower wishbones where the bushes are most susceptible

This reminds me of when a garage that had been trying to buy my Audi 90 quattro 'failed it' on bushes. They were leaning on a long crowbar.

I particularly like the way he makes the effort to get someone to hold the camera so he can rattle the crowbar off the metal and make it sound like something's clonking in the last bit.

Bushes are supposed to move. That's how they absorb things for refinement...

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  • 3 weeks later...

So the Rover appears to be deciding this may be its last few months on this earth with its impending June MOT. 

I've had an ever slight judder on braking recently, and it having sat still for a few weeks I took it for a quick spin this evening and the judder is more pronounced and on heavy braking I get a quite audible grinding sensation/sound.  I've had a quick look and there is plenty of life in the front pads and the front discs look fine.  The rear brakes were entirely rebuilt about 18 months ago.  Any idea what might be causing it? 

It may be up for a cheap sale if anyone wants a low-mileage high-spec Rover 75 to save, as not sure I want to put money into it to get it through the MOT.  

In Jaguar XJ world, it is my local friendly garage that is now not moving very quickly.  We are approaching week four with the second garage  and week eight since I first put it in to get sorted ... 

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  • PrinceRupert changed the title to PrinceRupert's Cars - Roffle XJ6 and Rover 75 - Rover brake judder, ideas?

Those sills are not terminal man, you can get repair sections for next to nowt! Don't scrap it for that, every 75 goes there.

This was mine in January when @GingerNuttz replaced both rear sections.

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That's them now:

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75s don't rust too badly other than the sills because they're only spot welded in places and the jacking pads catch road crap and it gets pushed up inside the sill every time its jacked up.

Your brake judder could be slightly warped discs, mine does that a wee touch from motorway speeds down slip roads.

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42 minutes ago, RoverFolkUs said:

Rover doesn't seem too bad, though hard to tell with the rot until its ground back. Certainly seems far too good to scrap

Regarding the brake judder, are you feeling it through the steering wheel or brake pedal?

No it really isn't that bad, sure it is sortable,  really frustratingly I scraped it across the lamppost outside my house about twelve month back and it needs a rear arch and a door, coupled with the sill work and maybe brakes (and the lack of service history, and the inlet manifold being emptied and therefore the VIS motors not working)  I'm not sure its worth me saving (particularly as local garages don't seem to want to weld).   I also know it is pretty crusty elsewhere underneath - it got a new rear exhaust section recently, but the front exhaust section isn't looking too healthy and neither are some of the suspension components (i know the rear arms like to go). 

The judder is through the brake pedal.  

 

p.s. unrelated @GingerNuttz - you're not the chap that makes awesome welded sculptures out of old cutlery, are you?!

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