DSdriver Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, grogee said: Shitting hell I hope not. I will read up on my Saab HBoL. When you say 'temperature control' do you mean engine or cabin? I intend to do as much as I can myself. First order of business: Let's have a diagnostic party. See if we can pinpoint EML (henceforth to be known as 'MILf light') and headlamp level fault lamp. Then have a good old service and rummage. Drain auto box and refill with fresh Aisin-Warner juice. Invest in some new or used tyres. Check brakes, flush fluid, new pads where necessary. Check suspension, rust points, clean up any grot and treat it with paint and/or waxy goo. Fix stereo, diagnostic suggests car and head unit need to 'get married'. That'll be fun, I might wear a suit. Fix rear window washer. Use and check HVAC system and top up gas, fix sticky flaps/actuators/rods/whatever and get it working. Fix cupholder. It was cabin temp. Stuck on max so OK in winter but not convenient in summer. The crank sensor was done about a year ago but must have been for iffy starting as I didn't fail to proceed. I have had the car three years now, bought from another AS member, servicing costs seem to be about a thousand a year (excluding fuel) because I am a lazy sod and we have an excellent Saab specialist nearby. That includes MOTs, front subframe mounts, an exhaust and an alloy wheel repair. It is still on the tyres it came with in winter. Its one ftp was the steering pump plus everything else belt breaking. grogee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wgl2019 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, grogee said: Drain auto box and refill with fresh Aisin-Warner juice. May well be teaching to suck ovulation but.... It's very easy to do this via the cooler line so all the fluid is changed in one go, this became to officially Saab method. If not already then the Uksaab website is a wealth of knowledge and generally helpful bunch. +1 on a Noobtune. These also run significantly better on 99ron fuel. I tell myself that the small increase in economy evens things out ppm (it doesn't). grogee and Saabnut 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 Are these HiD? The 'inners' look conventional, maybe that's full beam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cento16v Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Yeah they're Xenons on the outer lamp unit. I've got a double din to single din adapter with a Kenwood W808 Mask somewhere for this if I can find it if your head unit is broken. Was from my 2001 car which was pre facelift so not sure if they're the same though. +1 on a Noobtune, if just to have a chat with Karl, he's a nice bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Cento16v said: Yeah they're Xenons on the outer lamp unit. I've got a double din to single din adapter with a Kenwood W808 Mask somewhere for this if I can find it if your head unit is broken. Was from my 2001 car which was pre facelift so not sure if they're the same though. +1 on a Noobtune, if just to have a chat with Karl, he's a nice bloke. That's both very kind and annoying, because I've just bought the facia plate online. Although I could always send back? From what I know 98-05 were the same radio bits. I did drop Karl a mail so we'll see what happens. I like Xenons. Headlamps for the discerning gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cento16v Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Definitely worth a trip for a noob, really wakes them up, especially with a 3 inch downpipe. Does it have the as2 or 3 stereo, I think I had to buy a harness for the amp to retain it, but I can't remember now, it was a long time ago! Make sure you change all the vac hoses if they haven't been done, they go all funny and fall apart due to the heat after a while. grogee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenmil Socket Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Cookiesouwest said: The trick at Winter Stream Farm, is to get small plate. Then go up 5 times to get your moneys worth. IF you can put up with the sausages / eggs. Are they that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tenmil Socket said: Are they that bad? They were pretty bad. The fried eggs looked ok but once poked with cutlery revealed their shore hardness was close to that of osmium. Again, sausages looked ok but tasted a bit pasty/bland/mystery meat. RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Wgl2019 said: May well be teaching to suck ovulation but.... It's very easy to do this via the cooler line so all the fluid is changed in one go, this became to officially Saab method. If not already then the Uksaab website is a wealth of knowledge and generally helpful bunch. +1 on a Noobtune. These also run significantly better on 99ron fuel. I tell myself that the small increase in economy evens things out ppm (it doesn't). I saw this method in the Saab HBoL but thought it looked messy without the right equipment. However I will persevere, as theoretically it's easy* to just have the tranny squirt out old fluid and suck in new stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wgl2019 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, grogee said: I saw this method in the Saab HBoL but thought it looked messy without the right equipment. However I will persevere, as theoretically it's easy* to just have the tranny squirt out old fluid and suck in new stuff. It is very simple and tidy. If you want I can post you a homemade tube to assist along with a couple of new washers (won't be able to send until Friday as away at the moment). The fluid only comes out at a moderate rate however it does help to have a suitable measuring jug to assist putting the correct volume back in! grogee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesacosa Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 best way to check for Xenons on a 9-5 is stand and watch when someone switches them on, you will hear the leveling motor buzz and the beams move from pointing down to pointing somewhere near forward grogee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Wgl2019 said: It is very simple and tidy. If you want I can post you a homemade tube to assist along with a couple of new washers (won't be able to send until Friday as away at the moment). The fluid only comes out at a moderate rate however it does help to have a suitable measuring jug to assist putting the correct volume back in! That would be most kind. I can send you a self-addressed packet/box if you give me rough dimensions? I have a plastic measuring jug, do you need to measure the amount of fluid that comes out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiesouwest Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tenmil Socket said: Are they that bad? Not bad, but not average either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wgl2019 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, grogee said: That would be most kind. I can send you a self-addressed packet/box if you give me rough dimensions? I have a plastic measuring jug, do you need to measure the amount of fluid that comes out? Iirc....... Drain via sump (4l approx), refit sump plug and refill this amount via dipstick. Undo the cooler line (lower one I think.... Double check!) and fit homemade fluid directing gizmo... Have a glamorous assistant start the engine and have 2l of fluid come out (this is what the jug is for so make sure it's got some spare capacity). Once 2l is out stop the engine. Replace 2l fluid via dipstick. Repeat until the fluid coming out is cherry red. Bear in mind that the WIS instructions are slightly off. I forget exactly how but if you follow them to the letter you would end up a litre down on trans fluid. I bought a big Tupperware box from home bargains which was only a couple of quid and marked this up with litres, this made it possible to put the right quantity of fluid back in. Will send you a pm. grogee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Wgl2019 said: Have a glamorous assistant @Cluffy to the beige phone, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vantman Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Well bought ! You can run a heater diagnostic check by pressing Auto and Off together on the control panel. And check the pollen filter,often ignored by owners! grogee, DSdriver and Dan_ZTT 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daviemck2006 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 best way to check for Xenons on a 9-5 is stand and watch when someone switches them on, you will hear the leveling motor buzz and the beams move from pointing down to pointing somewhere near forwardWhen I put the lights on in the yeti, and every other car I had with xenons, you see fron the drivers seat the lights going through their up, down, right, left dance. The beam cuff off is very sharp. The inner lights will be halogen spotlights that come on with full beam. Everyone who is a passenger in the yeti remarks on how good the lights are. The leon previous to it was the same. Be prepared for big money exchanging hands if one goes out though. To fix the blown on my Leon would have cost near 2 grand fron Seat, for a new light and new ballast unit. Moisture had got in and corroded the terminals of the light which blew the ballast unit. I eventually got a light complete with ballast for £250 off of a breaker.Sent from my SM-T585 using Tapatalk wesacosa and grogee 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintwth Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, Vantman said: check the pollen filter,often ignored by owners It's easiest to change the pollen filter if all your arm joints are double jointed grogee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 "Simply remove the pollen filter cover by passing it through another dimension, then pull out the dessicated remains of the old filter. When fitting the new filter, remember to shrink it to 1/3rd actual size until it's in position" Cluffy, Dan_ZTT, dome and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket88 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 hours ago, grogee said: as theoretically it's easy* to just have the tranny squirt out old fluid and suck in new stuff. I think there's specialist * websites for this kind of activity........ GeordieInExile, Dan_ZTT, DSdriver and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 1:41 PM, DSdriver said: Has anyone got an Aero and a Polo for the confectionary shitists dream fleet? Well bought Sir. Just had mine serviced (full fat) at a cost of considerably more than the purchase price. But as it looks like a keeper I am gradually getting all the little niggles sorted. This time it was temperature control. I was surprised to see three fuel filters on the invoice, is this a thing or something I need to inquire about? I believe you may want to have a word with the garage about the three fuel filters. HBoL says only one, which I would expect, and I've never seen anything with more than one (unless you count the gauze sock near the pump intake) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSdriver Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 7 hours ago, grogee said: I believe you may want to have a word with the garage about the three fuel filters. HBoL says only one, which I would expect, and I've never seen anything with more than one (unless you count the gauze sock near the pump intake) Thanks, I'll look into it - it may be that I simply misread or a typo. Stand by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSdriver Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 It was me being daft, one filter and two filter seals. Duh! barefoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 6 hours ago, DSdriver said: It was me being daft, one filter and two filter seals. Duh! Phew. Faith in garages: restored DSdriver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djoptix Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 4:40 PM, DSdriver said: I have had the car three years now, bought from another AS member It came from me as well 🤣 grogee and DSdriver 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 7:21 PM, Vantman said: Well bought ! You can run a heater diagnostic check by pressing Auto and Off together on the control panel. And check the pollen filter,often ignored by owners! I did this. It said, "0". Either it's not talking to me or that's zero faults. I do have a cabin filter to go on. Twice the size of anything I've fitted before. Good old Saab. Dan_ZTT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wgl2019 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 When you do the filter there's a sponge bit that goes above it, sometimes these have an adhesive strip to stick them on. Don't stick it on. Put the foam thingy in first as it fits around some of the pipework, the filter can then just slide in. When I first changed mine there was approximately 3/7ths of a small tree in the housing too! grogee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluffy Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 6:56 PM, grogee said: @Cluffy to the beige phone, please No problem so long as there is tea and mindless conversation grogee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mintwth Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Cluffy said: No problem so long as there is tea and mindless conversation Don't forget the biscuits.... Cluffy and grogee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grogee Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 5:49 PM, Cento16v said: Definitely worth a trip for a noob, really wakes them up, especially with a 3 inch downpipe. Does it have the as2 or 3 stereo, I think I had to buy a harness for the amp to retain it, but I can't remember now, it was a long time ago! Make sure you change all the vac hoses if they haven't been done, they go all funny and fall apart due to the heat after a while. I don't know for sure but I think it's Super Duper level stereo with sub in boot. When I was fiddling around with Tech 2, I had to choose between Standard and Premium/Upgrade or something like that. It responded to the latter so I'm guessing it's got that. The more I use the car the more I appreciate the spec. No sunroof so no leak issues. Banging stereo. Future-proof grey leather interior. Stealth silver exterior. Heated rear seats for the kids to play with. At a glance I would have guessed the handsome 17" wheels and 45-section tyres would have ruined the ride but it's surprisingly good. Probably because the dampers are shagged, but who's complaining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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