GMcD Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, SiC said: Not quite as good a car as I hoped though. Something in particular? Half full = You might be starting slightly further back from where you thought but you'll get there. The good work you've done on all your other cars is testament to that🙂. SiC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 25 minutes ago, stuboy said: t'pau? MidgeT'PAU495G stuboy and barefoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 A walk, poke and drive around introduction. Much easier than trying to do it through pictures. With a clickbait thumbnail to try getting impressionable YouTube viewers in. One day I'll be able to monetise my channel. Probably a lot sooner if I put more effort in! tommotech, worldofceri and GMcD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Gerrymcd said: Something in particular? Half full = You might be starting slightly further back from where you thought but you'll get there. The good work you've done on all your other cars is testament to that🙂. More bodywork needed than I hoped. Basically not seen shiny metal when I've gone picking. The Blue 1100 was far, far better than I expected. Only needed the brakes freshening up. This not only needs bodywork but mechanical TLC too. Hopefully thats mostly just a carb sort-out to get it running properly and sort the dodgy accelerator pedal. GMcD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, SiC said: A walk, poke and drive around introduction. Much easier than trying to do it through pictures. With a clickbait thumbnail to try getting impressionable YouTube viewers in. One day I'll be able to monetise my channel. Probably a lot sooner if I put more effort in! Lack of SHOUTY CAPS, not clickbaity enough! GMcD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMC Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, D.E said: Lack of SHOUTY CAPS, not clickbaity enough! Plus you also need to have an arrow pointing at a circle highlighting something or other. Or so it seems. Plus a shot of you gurning at the camera, looking deeply in shock. Tomtom and GMcD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, SiC said: More bodywork needed than I hoped. Basically not seen shiny metal when I've gone picking. The Blue 1100 was far, far better than I expected. Only needed the brakes freshening up. This not only needs bodywork but mechanical TLC too. Hopefully thats mostly just a carb sort-out to get it running properly and sort the dodgy accelerator pedal. The Midget. I'd do exactly what you say. Check anything structural but the rest I'd leave it - once you start pulling it apart it's going to need lots doing. Personally I'd get some rust converter in the gaps, skim with more filler and rattlecan it. Then get an enjoyable summer or three out of it. I'd paint the wheels silver or cream personally and get a second hand hood cover and then just drive it till it breaks in the sunshine sometime then decide what to do after that. RobT, SiC and BeEP 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 6 hours ago, SiC said: Not quite as good a car as I hoped though. I hope that soon, it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 just bloody drive it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 As the seller hadn't sent off the V5, I had the previous owner (to him) address on the one I had. Side note, if I'd known he only got it this year, I wouldn't have got it. Anyway, some Streetview Snooping shows clearly what has happened here. April 2011 - I wonder what is under that cat piss tarp? September 2011 - All is revealed! June 2015 - Still there but gained an additional convertible September 2018 - 3 Months after its last MOT it is hiding behind the (comparatively) enormous Fiat 500. Jan 2021 - Still there but two modern convertible April 2021 - Decade on its still under its now knackered cover and not really moved in three years June 2021 is when the seller bought it. Car covers are on the same hate list as filler. While useful for light use, they're too overly used and do more harm than good. BlankFrank, GMcD, worldofceri and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMcD Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Cat piss tarp indeed. Look at the colour of it by the end! lesapandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave j Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 hours ago, SiC said: As the seller hadn't sent off the V5, I had the previous owner (to him) address on the one I had. Side note, if I'd known he only got it this year, I wouldn't have got it. Anyway, some Streetview Snooping shows clearly what has happened here. April 2011 - I wonder what is under that cat piss tarp? September 2011 - All is revealed! June 2015 - Still there but gained an additional convertible September 2018 - 3 Months after its last MOT it is hiding behind the (comparatively) enormous Fiat 500. Jan 2021 - Still there but two modern convertible April 2021 - Decade on its still under its now knackered cover and not really moved in three years June 2021 is when the seller bought it. Car covers are on the same hate list as filler. While useful for light use, they're too overly used and do more harm than good. I like all the streetview shots, my house has only been pictured once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 Amazon delivery driver has just arrived with a parcel for me. This was in it. Bloody brilliant whoever sent me this and I let out a hearty chuckle. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 MorrisItalSLX, bicycle repairman, anonymous user and 23 others 7 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 19/12/2021 at 22:33, HMC said: Plus you also need to have an arrow pointing at a circle highlighting something or other. Or so it seems. Plus a shot of you *gurning at the camera, looking deeply in shock. @HooviesGarage...... LoL 👍 HMC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 20 hours ago, SiC said: As the seller hadn't sent off the V5, I had the previous owner (to him) address on the one I had. Side note, if I'd known he only got it this year, I wouldn't have got it. Anyway, some Streetview Snooping shows clearly what has happened here. How do you make streetview go backwards & forwards in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.E Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, barefoot said: How do you make streetview go backwards & forwards in time? Click left and then use the slider to switch between available years: lesapandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, barefoot said: How do you make streetview go backwards & forwards in time? As @D.E says but also for some reason it only works on desktop version of Streetview. lesapandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 Whoever sent me that hammer is a baaaaaaad person. They also knew I'd do this with it. 😆 That a-pillar really is not that bad thankfully and should be readily, quickly fixable. After poking and prodding more stuff, I'm feeling a lot better about this little car. Read that as I couldn't put any more holes into it. Note through these pictures the magnetic light stuck on the body. This was in part intensional as it reassures there is some metal there! Not least as the light is quite top ended and doesn't stay stuck all that well. First thing was the driver's side quarter light has quite a big gap between the window and windscreen. Purplebargken noticed this from my video. Worried it was the door drooping or even the car bowing in the middle, this was the first thing I checked. The shut line isn't too bad thankfully. I mean it's awful compared to a new car but for what came out the factory, it's not too bad. Looking inside, it appears just to be the rubber seal that is torn and squashed. Compare those to the nearside which is much shaped still. Something I'll have to get sorted at some point otherwise driving in the rain will be even less pleasurable. Floors look and feel solid. Inside a pillar too A bit flakey down here on the nearside but I couldn't get my corrosion assesment tool to make a hole. Jacking points good and also can feel there is no huge chunk of filler either. Might stick my snake camera down there and take a look sometime. I picked that big piece of filler off. This is solid and not thin, just rough. I think filler was used to correct the lines. The tool is too blunt to chip more filler off here. It has adhered well, so presumably if I did, there will be nice shiny metal underneath. That's back up from chipping the section behind the hood that water was squeezing out of in the video. Notice that there is shiny metal at the top. I'm super pleased to see this as it suggests the only rusty sections is where water has got in. Not that it's had a skim of filler over a very rusty body. Also note the magnet in the light sticking firmly to the panels. This is excellent as it means there is highly unlikely any filler there. Especially as you can see the step change from the original paint and the primer. Also you can see the panel joins at the top. I started picking more off the offside arch to try finding shiny metal but stopped as I think most of this needs to come off. Again at least it's not filler. Just cracked paint that water has got under from being under that bloody car cover. Nearside rear arch will need some love. The arch itself is really thin with filler behind. I poked this hole bigger to take a look. Filler isn't actually that thick on the inside. Not sure even really why it's there. Misguided attempt to stop dirt getting up? At least the torch magnet stick on the panel! Bottom arch is definitely crusty but this is an easy fix TADIS area too. The nearside a-pillar where definitely some work will be needed isn't too shocking. Where the door rubs on the body, it's not scraped off filler. Only paint. So this is highly unlikely to be thick with filler. The top is not great but it's solid still. Can tell from both sides that it's not thin metal. Clean up with a wire wheel and fresh filler will be fine. Absolutely no reason to cut this out and replace here. Bottom of the a-pillar is a mess. But looking inside I can clearly see decent metal that makes up the door hinge mount. This is excellent news as I really didn't want the hassle of trying to replace them and re-aligning doors. I've tried capturing this in the picture but hard to get. A cheap repair panel (literally like £7) for the bottom of this pillar is going to be absolutely fine. Moving to the engine bay is even better news. Having a good poke around I couldn't find anything bad bodywork wise. That brake master looks ripe for replacement though, especially given it's single line brakes and decent replacements are cheap enough. Wheel stud is, hilarious, being used to plug the vacuum port. Reading through the history, I believe this manifold and carbs is off a Morris 1300. No idea why but doesn't really matter. I want to get this to a rolling road eventually for a true carb tune-up.Wheel stud is, hilariously, being used to plug the vacuum port. Reading through the history, I believe this manifold and carbs is off a Morris 1300. No idea why but doesn't really matter but I think it probably would have had a brake servo. I want to get this to a rolling road eventually for a true carb tune-up which will sort any needle/mixture discrepancies. Dashpots were almost completely devoid of oil. Only a small amount at the bottom of both. This explains the juddery running. Super easy fix. Brightwork is ... bright. Good as modern stuff is crap and goes rusty easily. Especially as this has been under a tarp. Finally a few quick underfloor photos. No concerns that I can see here. So all in all, I'm significantly happier after having a good look. A combination of the dirt, grime, moisture from transportation and my expectations killed my enthusiasm on Sunday. But today with a fresh set of eyes it looks much better and not (so much of) a turd. Also helps that the dim fluorescent light in storage always makes things look better too. 🙉 grizgut, MorrisItalSLX, privatewire and 20 others 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplebargeken Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Not too bad. Would probably replace both of those seals Si. lesapandre and SiC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesapandre Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I'd junk the hard top and track down a hood and the get out there with the top down which the car is all about. You need a flat cap or flying cap and a large shaggy dog. I feel a bit sorry for the car languishing under the tarp - it's raring to get out and about. You might even recoup some costs by selling the hard top. That hard top will be heavy too. Car looks really OK. Just wants conserving to stop deterioration getting worse. Enjoy. purplebargeken and SiC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Longbridge Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Your Midget looks impressively solid considering the previous long-term owner left it to languish under a car cover for so long. I'm with you on hating the damn things - even the best quality car cover does more harm than good to a car stored outside for a sustained period. Is there any note of a full resto within the last couple of decades? It must have been pretty much mint condition when originally covered outside for it still to be so solid in all the right places. It'll be interesting to see what the driving experience is like compared to your GT. Shite Ron and lesapandre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMcD Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/why-is-it-so-tempting-to-pick-scabs/ anonymous user 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Will you stop picking at the bloody thing?! Traffic may not be too bad, you have the antipodean radiator option (header tank in radiator, fan shroud). Don't be tempted to dial the heater tap. Just leave it on hot and shut your flaps (ooeer) instead. Why? Dial it and the thing will leak. Rest of the engine bay looks fine. Only difference between the 1300GT manifold and the original is the brake servo takeoff (which wasn't drilled on the ones fitted to the Sprite/Midget). Phil SiC, BeEP, Matty and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommotech Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just catching up with this, plenty of scope for improvement as the project progresses. Having done a Midget to a high standard I’d suggest Heritage panels, they fit far better and came of the same (or refurbished) tooling - meaning less fettling. I found Leacy Motor Group to be the best supplier for me, they secured lots of new old stock and original tooling from suppliers too. Scott is particularly helpful, has been with them forever so is knowledgeable from the parts side. I’m looking forward to following this, good luck with it. GMcD, SiC and PhilA 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous user Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 It doesn't look bad at all. As above, stop picking at it, get it running right and see if you like it. Then you have the option to sort it out properly or sell it in and buy another to build up ad you would really like it. SiC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 Bought a scab plaster (panel) for the A-pillar from Moss. Only the bottom three quarters section but will fix the worst of the bottom. Rubber seal is for the driver's door as the gap is wide enough that I'll get soaked in a rainstorm.Went down to storage to show my mate it and gave it a quick run around. Also topped up the dashpots which stopped the juddery on acceleration.Startup is a bit difficult on this at the moment. Needs a lot of choke when cold and easing off ever so slightly will cause it to quickly die. Pretty sure the fuel is pretty much gone off. Once warmed it'll run with the choke fully in but revs are a bit high. Lower than when the dashpots were empty but still higher than I like and turning it back causes it to be even more lumpy. I've got the opposite problem of oil pressure on this one. Far too high when cold! Potentially the oil relief valve jammed/sticking? GMcD and Shite Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandylegs Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 On 19/12/2021 at 01:20, Shandylegs said: If you haven’t already ordered the panels, I have a Ashley Hinton NS wing repair panel that I didn’t end up using. Yours if it will be of any use? Popped down to the unit to turn the car round to build up the OS of the car. I dug out the wing repair panel at the same time. PM me your address and I’ll forward it on….. SiC and GMcD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Mate of a mate is converting a Midget to electric. He says it's almost finished and sent me a clip of it sort of running. https://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/61c649642c5ef/VID-20211224-WA0003.mp4Sent from my SM-A127F using Tapatalk SiC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilA Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Nah, that's just cold oil unless it goes off the scale when you rev it. Once it's been running a few minutes it should settle to about 70. Those gauges can be ferociously inaccurate too. Don't read into it too much right now SiC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 With the BGT serviced and its fuel pump electrical connection fixed, I took it back to storage. Decided it probably was time I bought this home and got it sorted. Packed a bunch of tools as if I did then sods law dictates that I'd more likely make it home without incident. Popped the bonnet for a quick check over. Made sure I had oil, topped up the dashpots and reconnected the battery.The Dynamo regulator looks a bit sketchy. I plan to convert this to an alternator system anyway. Evicted the several spiders calling it home.Checked the pedals worked and moved the organ style accelerator pedal under the arm. This is broken anyway and it's a really bad design organ pedal. I plan to possibly change it to the later 1500 pedal that is just a normal pedal. Either by fitting a replacement or welding on a flat piece.That fluid looked like water but I didn't bother checking exactly what it was. If it was brake fluid then I'd probably not want to drive it home. Better to not know right?Turned on the ignition to hear the reassuring clunk of the fuel pump priming.Pushed the car forward by hand so the Dolomite back seats didn't get blasted by oil. The thing at the very back is the knackered hood of this.Pumped up the tyres. These are modern tyres but all cracked. Something on the replacement list.It doesn't sound like it's particularly happy and not running on all four. I didn't do too much investigation as it did run and pull itself along. However the plugs look ancient and the leads are all stiff+brittle. No doubt it needs a tune-up.Fuel is likely at least 2018 vintage and maybe older, which almost certainly won't be helping things.Checked over the gauges and everything looked nominal. Did both a foot and hand brake check. With everything set to go, I left the choke set to 2k rpm. Off choke it would hesitate and try to stall - probably that crap fuel in there. With super fast idle, I could drive without really needing to use the accelerator pedal. Useful trick if you have an accelerator cable snap and you need to limp somewhere so you can get the idle adjusted higher.All ready to set off for the couple mile journey home!About 5 to 10 mins later I had the reassuring sight of the garage in front of me.Side by side, the Midget is nowhere near as good a condition as the Moggie. While the paint is tatty on the Moggie, it's completely solid and a fresh braking system. Midget needs a lot doing to it. Btw I checked that fluid in the driver's footwell when I was home. It's got that slippy feeling to it. So almost certainly brake fluid. Both masters look sketchy. I've got a brand new brake master but I think the clutch slave could do with rebuild/replacement too. GMcD, Jenson Velcro, Dyslexic Viking and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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