Cars to “see you out”.

[Justwatching]

Hopefully the DeLorean for me. I lusted after one for years, so don't plan on selling. Ever. 

[Asimo]

How did I not know we had a Delorean shiter?  Is there a thread???

[Metal Guru]

5 hours ago, Justwatching said:

Hopefully the DeLorean for me. I lusted after one for years, so don't plan on selling. Ever. 

Never see one on the road.  Saw one at a classic car show once that had been ( badly) done up like the movie version .

[vulgalour]

I've probably got another 40-50 years of car ownership ahead of me.  Who knows what the automotive landscape will be towards the end of that?  I'd like to think the Princess is the one that'll see me out because nobody else is mad enough to persist with it.  Realistically, the lack of parts and the fact rust never sleeps is likely what'll do for it well before I'm ready to hang up my keys so I'll just have to check back here in, oh, 2060 or so to see where we're at.

[Dan29]

17 hours ago, bunglebus said:

I'd quite like a MK1 Granada Coleman Milne hearse to "see me out", unfortunately they're now so rare I can't even find a picture of one

 

 

[skoda_fan]

I don't know how many cars I've bought over the years with the intention of keeping them for ever. I never do though.

[skoda_fan]

15 hours ago, Motown said:

Amen! 

I take it for both your sakes that neither Mrs Motown nor Mrs Stu are subscribers to this channel😁

[Leyland Worldmaster]

Good I'm pretty sure Alison will see me out. Corrosion resistant Aluminium Bodywork and proven mechanical components shared with lots of other VW Group cars; and I've been running her longer than any other car I've had; 8 years and 134,500 miles! 

I bought her at 11 years old and 124,500 miles! 

😎 

[Markeh]

I damn well hope I've got enough years ahead of me that my current cars don't see me out - especially hoping the Qashqai doesn't as I'm replacing it on Friday!

My gran bought her 68 plate Ignis with the intention of it seeing her out - given it's still only in 4 digits on the mileage I think it probably will.

[bigstraight6]

I’ve no plans to replace any of these, Zodiac sits in the garage from October to March but always starts first time and proceeds without issue after it’s winter lay up as it always has in my 18 year ownership, Mercedes has full history and only 82,000 miles and drives like it’s new and is used sparingly at weekends, Volvo has been my daily donkey for 8 years and being an old Volvo will continue to be.

[garethj]

The way I felt this morning, a Laguna 2 would see me out😀

[95 quid Peugeot]

This for me 

[Motown]

9 hours ago, skoda_fan said:

I take it for both your sakes that neither Mrs Motown nor Mrs Stu are subscribers to this channel😁

If it wasn't for the suffragettes she would be in a kitchen were she belongs 🤣

[grogee]

3 hours ago, 95 quid Peugeot said:

This for me 

Is it waking up from under a duvet?

[Fumbler]

The Micra is a forever car, so I plan on keeping it going for as long as I am... Only being nearly 19 I hope pushing up the daisies is a fair long way away. I do suspect petrol cars will be banned before both me and the car are dead.

[5speedracer]

On 12/11/2021 at 11:51 AM, MisterH said:

I am 18, going on 19, while I have hopefully quite a lot of time to decide this, I know right now that I want our family heirloom Audi quattro to be passed down to future generations 

As for a non-heirloom car I definitely want to keep, the Volvo 480ES, my first car, I intend to keep as the cornerstone of my future collection and always run as either a daily or back up 

I recognise those cars and your description of yourself, you were featured on The Late Brake Show the other week!

Struck me then you were a prime AutoShite kind of guy and, please take this the right way, fantastically eccentric. Good to see you here.

[martc]

16 hours ago, Dan29 said:

 

 

I do hope Bunglebus' mourners will be following in one of these -

Ford Granada Mk1 Coupe Coleman Milne Limousine

[SiC]

On 12/11/2021 at 3:46 PM, MisterH said:

I have a more optimistic outlook, I think by 2045 governments will have to reintroduce ICE cars or e-fuels as a supplement as the demand for Electric cars (which realistically are the only option being invested in properly at the moment) will outstrip the resources required to build them, causing massive problems when it comes to getting transport, and 2nd hand EVs will go through the roof for that very reason. Thus, I think ICE does have a future. I will make it if I have to. If Greta can do it, why can't Ben?  

I'm afraid that's unlikely to happen. We're already easing out ICE and development has slowed down or stopped. 2045 will be over a good decade when production has stopped. The skills, knowledge and manufacturing equipment to produce ICE will be slowly forgotten. So unlikely we will not only won't be able to mass produce but likely struggle to fix existing units. 

[Flat4]

On 12/11/2021 at 9:37 AM, Dyslexic Viking said:

I'm not old yet but I think it will be the Audi if I can keep it alive for so long. Since the story it has and that I had to promise the previous owner to take good care of it, I feel a responsibility to take care of it so I will never sell it.

That looks alot like my very first car!!!

The car I'll never sell is my first Legacy GT-V. It does need a possible engine rebuild but it's one of the few cars I don't care how much money I spend on it.

Kinda feel similar about my Granvia, only because it's proven itself to be so reliable and I can't afford anything that might be up to it's standard but I am planning to replace it when I'm able to buy a 3.5l AWD Elgrand with an LPG conversion.

The Forester XT will also stay with me a good while and I'm even eyeing up potential replacement engines, just in case....Unless something catastrophic happens to the body... It's a bit of a problem child, but I love it.

[Justwatching]

On 12/11/2021 at 7:47 PM, Asimo said:

How did I not know we had a Delorean shiter?  Is there a thread???

 

[MisterH]

3 hours ago, 5speedracer said:

I recognise those cars and your description of yourself, you were featured on The Late Brake Show the other week!

Struck me then you were a prime AutoShite kind of guy and, please take this the right way, fantastically eccentric. Good to see you here.

Haha no problem, I was wondering how many shiters would see it. I did take some flak due to the accent (I did pronounce S'ampton right tho) but overall I think the response was really good  

1 hour ago, SiC said:

I'm afraid that's unlikely to happen. We're already easing out ICE and development has slowed down or stopped. 2045 will be over a good decade when production has stopped. The skills, knowledge and manufacturing equipment to produce ICE will be slowly forgotten. So unlikely we will not only won't be able to mass produce but likely struggle to fix existing units. 

I'll just leave this here...

[warch]

That’s ULEZ exempt too…

[SiC]

1 hour ago, MisterH said:

I'll just leave this here...

That's something that is made with blacksmith technology.

Hardly a 30000psi fuel injection pump and direct injectors, precision machining to get an exact sized seal in the cylinder bore, exotic materials that are balanced perfectly to run a turbo at 100k+ rpm, special crank lathes to cut a rotating mass into an exact size and complex electronics to run the beast. 

[MisterH]

2 minutes ago, SiC said:

That's something that is made with blacksmith technology.

Hardly a 30000psi fuel injection pump and direct injectors, precision machining to get an exact sized seal in the cylinder bore, exotic materials that are balanced perfectly to run a turbo at 100k+ rpm, special crank lathes to cut a rotating mass into an exact size and complex electronics to run the beast. 

No, but blacksmith technology can die out just as easily, only it hasn't, as there are still people willing to preserve, enjoy, and use it, over a century after it was rendered obsolete. It is up to my generation of car enthusiasts to keep that alive, and knowing the people I know who are into cars at my age, I have hope  

[captain_70s]

There will be a few ICE cars running in the hands of enthusiasts in 40 years time. Those who have machine shops and specialist equipment, cars will still be technically restorable but costs will run into 5 figure sums as engine parts become obsolete. 

Much the same as veteran cars today, a few hundred or so will survive in the hands of those wealthy enough to handle the costs of having parts scratch made.

I think it was JimH who described the thousands of hours going into his Sentinel steam wagon as being less engineering and more messing around as the tolerances are so high.

[Popsicle]

3 hours ago, martc said:

Ford Granada Mk1 Coupe Coleman Milne Limousine

That's a lovely looking widow wagon, reckon Mrs Popsicle would love that when I pop my clogs.

[MisterH]

13 minutes ago, captain_70s said:

There will be a few ICE cars running in the hands of enthusiasts in 40 years time. Those who have machine shops and specialist equipment, cars will still be technically restorable but costs will run into 5 figure sums as engine parts become obsolete. 

Much the same as veteran cars today, a few hundred or so will survive in the hands of those wealthy enough to handle the costs of having parts scratch made.

I think it was JimH who described the thousands of hours going into his Sentinel steam wagon as being less engineering and more messing around as the tolerances are so high.

I don't want to go off topic and hijack the thread, but I think with advancing technology, like more advanced 3D printing becoming more accessible, this might not be so much of a problem, as the skills will be widely dispersed in several cottage industries. A Family Friend works at Rolls Royce Aero Engines in Brizzle and the sheer complexity of the components they produce on 3D printers is breathtaking, and this is stuff that is used in the aircraft industry. I can only see that sort of technology get more and more accessible in the next decade or so, so in theory all is needed is the passion and proficiency with a widely available technology, and there will be a future yet. Some compromises might have to be made, such as parts not being exact replicas, but I think overall it will be possible to run a classic. I think marque enthusiasts will band together to produce replacement parts, in a manner that is being done to an extent now, but with them basically becoming a new support network.

 

This is all a nice idea however, and is reliant on one thing: People my age developing a passion for cars made before they were even a ball-itch. That's the biggest hurdle in my view, and the one I am trying to work out how to mend, as I do want to do something to ensure the future

 

[New POD]

7 hours ago, SiC said:

That's something that is made with blacksmith technology.

Hardly a 30000psi fuel injection pump and direct injectors, precision machining to get an exact sized seal in the cylinder bore, exotic materials that are balanced perfectly to run a turbo at 100k+ rpm, special crank lathes to cut a rotating mass into an exact size and complex electronics to run the beast. 

Someone with have a turbo balancing machine, and will be desperate to use it. 

[New POD]

On 11/12/2021 at 19:22, captain_70s said:

At 29 I doubt anything I currently own or is available to buy will be viable as everyday transport towards then end of my life. So, no idea.

You'll be looking at ordering an autonomous uber-bus-pod, which will turn up in the tunnel beneath your lair. 

And take you to you destination.  At times it might leave the tunnel system and start flying. 

[2cvspecial]

My 7 owner 1987 259K mile 2CV