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29 minutes ago, Matty said:

Any criminal with half a brain would be tooling round in the most boring, nondescript car possible

People such as actual proper drug dealers for example tend not to be ostentatiously dodgy looking or drive cars that might draw attention to themselves, much safer to drive an anonymous  modern hire car or repmobile.

Dickhead low level gangsta (sic) wannabees tend to look dodgy as fuck (not helped by often spending much of their time off their face having sampled the goods). Their lifestyle accoutrements practically come in a kit, including a car that was flash 10 years ago, window tints and a marijuana flavoured air freshener (completely unnecessary given that the interior usually looks like Bodmin Moor on a wet November morning). In my day a blim burned puffa jacket, skater jeans, Dready t-shirt and baseball cap and a BMI score of 12 were also useful indicators.  

 

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4 hours ago, Matty said:

Any criminal with half a brain would be tooling round in the most boring, nondescript car possible

This is the one that's always stuck in my mind - there was a gang in West London that was called the Fiat Bravo Boys because that's what they all drove to avoid attention...

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+ASIAN+CONNECTION%3B+Sikh+brothers+ran+pounds+1m+drugs+gang...-a0100368601

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4 hours ago, HMC said:

That’s prisoner FF 8282; the lord archer of Weston super mare.

Who is undoubtedly a grade 1 dickhead, but it seems more than harsh to lump him in a group with a pair of evil child molesters.

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1 hour ago, angle said:

This is the one that's always stuck in my mind - there was a gang in West London that was called the Fiat Bravo Boys because that's what they all drove to avoid attention...

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/THE+ASIAN+CONNECTION%3B+Sikh+brothers+ran+pounds+1m+drugs+gang...-a0100368601

With no red key for added badness 

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9 hours ago, sierraman said:

I have seen sometimes on those old episodes of Crimewatch that they’ve used the actual car if it was found on the reconstruction. I wonder if the cops keep them over for evidence if a case ends up unsolved?

That happened to a Morris Minor I went to look at (unbeknown to me it was stolen at the time). The chap selling it worked for a car/van dealer but was selling it privately, on the car dealers land (a bit odd).  My Dad and I questioned why the the car (G or H reg) had all the older parts on like earlier grille and back arm rests ect. The chap said it was retro fitted with older parts, I remember liking the aerial topper thing being quite fancy. I was going to buy it if I passed my driving test next week if it was still for sale. Thankfully (sort of) I failed my driving test so I never went back for it.

Anyway months later the very same car (with older number plate) turns up on  Crime watch on TV. With the real owner explaining how he spotted his stolen car for sale on the internet, and recognizes that it's his car through the aerial topper and various other things.

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23 hours ago, Blake's Den said:

Those were the days! I remember seeing the crime stoppers video of that. Remember one with a range rover too

I haven't seen him for 30years but I did know 1 of them involved. But as it was done a few times.

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Toyota Avensis estates on Irish plates seem to be the tool of choice for the local catalyst thieves round here. Plenty of room for 4 (one to stay in the car for a quick getaway, two to steal the cat, one lookout), and a huge boot for storing lots of catalysts and the massive fuckoff jack and circular saw.

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On 10/9/2021 at 2:54 PM, Matty said:

Any criminal with half a brain would be tooling round in the most boring, nondescript car possible

Indeed.  Same as if they were going to drive without insurance or a licence, they wouldn't drive in a way that says "HELLO COPPERS, PLEASE PULL ME OVER!"

In Birmingham, if you see a Golf R or an Audi RS3, it will almost certainly be nicked and being driven by a small-time "gangster" or druggie.

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On 10/9/2021 at 12:30 PM, sierraman said:

Whenever you read about ‘wrong uns’ Someone will always quote the Mk2 Jag of the sixties being the de facto choice of the criminal. I remember in the early 2000’s the Shogun or more likely a Pajero being the chariot of choice for someone who might break your legs over £50. Anyone else recall what shite was driven by the stereotypical criminal? 

I would have said that the wrong 'uns car of the 70s was a Mk2/S Type Jag because they looked a bit sporty/flash but were completely worthless so a telly programme on a tight budget were assured of some top chase/crash action without having to negotiate a lower fee for the bubble permed ponce. If a Mk2 turns up in The Professionals or The Sweeny then you know that by the end of the programme it will have met its end. Conversely if the bad people are driving a Merc then you know its immediate future is assured. 

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My rotten rusty W114-280E in Wellington was formerly owned by a well known Kiwi-Aussie businessman-Ron Brierley (Bn.1937) corperate raider...former head of the Bank of New Zealand... .knighthood etc

Ron Brierley was on the way to Fiji when he was stopped by Australian Border Force staff at Sydney International Airport in December 2019.
He later pleaded guilty to three charges related to almost 47,000 child pornography images found on his laptop and several USB devices on him and later located at his Point Piper home. Knighthood just ended up in the bin.
 
Yuk. Anyway..i more than doubled my money on the car when i ditched it.

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Surely this is what Maseratis where made for?
Low-level mafia stuff.  Mk1 Quattroporte. You can see the mobsters hanging out of the window with a machine gun!
fff581d315718b2ae86744cd040aabb7--wax-ma

  

On 10/9/2021 at 12:46 PM, Sham said:

Black BMW, or a Focus ST in Asbo Orange.

I'll not lie. I'd happily drive a Black BMW or any car in Asbo Orange (although you can keep your Fraud ST)

 

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2 hours ago, JimH said:

I would have said that the wrong 'uns car of the 70s was a Mk2/S Type Jag because they looked a bit sporty/flash but were completely worthless so a telly programme on a tight budget were assured of some top chase/crash action without having to negotiate a lower fee for the bubble permed ponce. If a Mk2 turns up in The Professionals or The Sweeny then you know that by the end of the programme it will have met its end. Conversely if the bad people are driving a Merc then you know its immediate future is assured. 

I seem to remember there was a clip of a white jag going off a cliff which was regularly used by various TV companies. It got to the point that if you saw a pale jag early in The Professionals/Sweeny/fill in drama , you knew it was going to be going off a cliff by the end of the program.

Found it

 

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1 hour ago, JimH said:

I would have said that the wrong 'uns car of the 70s was a Mk2/S Type Jag because they looked a bit sporty/flash but were completely worthless so a telly programme on a tight budget were assured of some top chase/crash action without having to negotiate a lower fee for the bubble permed ponce. If a Mk2 turns up in The Professionals or The Sweeny then you know that by the end of the programme it will have met its end. Conversely if the bad people are driving a Merc then you know its immediate future is assured. 

I can remember one episode of the Professionals when said bubble permed ponce wrecked a (no doubt well past its best) E Type convertible.

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13 hours ago, Richard_FM said:

It's said that a silver Ford Focus has been the most anonymous car for the last 20 years, probably used by plain clothes police officers too.

 

I've seen a Focus Estate with minicab plates as an undercover car, and a Sprinter complete with rust stains everywhere and crap all over the dash. I guess they are very anonymous!

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13 hours ago, Pieman said:

Indeed.  Same as if they were going to drive without insurance or a licence, they wouldn't drive in a way that says "HELLO COPPERS, PLEASE PULL ME OVER!"

In Birmingham, if you see a Golf R or an Audi RS3, it will almost certainly be nicked and being driven by a small-time "gangster" or druggie.

Or an apprentice, who lives at home with his parents and doesn't pay board or lodgings.  

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6 hours ago, JimH said:

I would have said that the wrong 'uns car of the 70s was a Mk2/S Type Jag because they looked a bit sporty/flash but were completely worthless so a telly programme on a tight budget were assured of some top chase/crash action without having to negotiate a lower fee for the bubble permed ponce. If a Mk2 turns up in The Professionals or The Sweeny then you know that by the end of the programme it will have met its end. Conversely if the bad people are driving a Merc then you know its immediate future is assured. 

Big old Vauxhalls were also common as villain's cars in The Professionals Their scaled down American styling looked the part & they were cheap as chips because of premature rust & high fuel consumption, so getting smashed up in a chase was no big problem.

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On 10/9/2021 at 3:54 PM, Matty said:

Any criminal with half a brain would be tooling round in the most boring, nondescript car possible

Many of the Turkish crims in London that were (and probably still are) smuggling heroin into the UK, drove silver or light blue Avensis's and Corolla's. Plus they looked as bland as their cars.

 

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7 hours ago, N19 said:

I've seen a Focus Estate with minicab plates as an undercover car, and a Sprinter complete with rust stains everywhere and crap all over the dash. I guess they are very anonymous!

There was a behind the scenes of a cop repair shop on Dave a couple of years ago, following Cheshire Police. They rolled in a circa 2000 Astravan in white pretty much on its last legs for MOT. Apparently would have been condemned due to I think rot, brakes, suspension, all sorts, but was reprieved due to the amount of bespoke kit carried on board for presumably counter-terrorism observation reasons.

Meanwhile a very low mileage 308 and an unmarked RPU 3 Series got written off tout suite.

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