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2006 Toyota Land Cruiser: Lots of hot air from dealer over no cold air.


St.Jude
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^^ This. I'd personally take the car away from there in the meantime too and use it whilst they're waiting for parts. It would be convenient for something to now 'happen to it' whilst parked up there - at least if you've got it back you control what's going on with your own vehicle. I think I'd want something in writing though stating they'd agreed to fix the aircon and would duly sort it asap. 

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3 hours ago, MJK 24 said:

They want you to throw it back at them because good used stock is hard to find.  Be stubborn and dig your heels in if it’s an otherwise good car!

Quite possibly. I know he's lost money on it already, well I know he's said he's lost money.

3 hours ago, Ian_Fearn said:

Shit ain’t it….. After a lifetime of chronically knackered cars my wife declared we would be buying something that I didn’t need to work on all the time.

That turned out to be a nightmare with slimy dealers, a warranty that wouldn’t pay out and the car continually returned with the fault I could have fixed myself (and did in the end) not fixed for reasons relating solely to them not wanting to pay for it.

We’re back to shit cars now and all the happier for it.

Glad you’re sticking with it! My advice would be to get the car back and sort it yourself, life is easier that way….. 

I know, first time in a long time I spend a good whack of money on it and I feel beholden to the dealer to get his act together.

I'll give him till tomorrow, for some o rings to be gotten from Toyota. I think the condenser or pipe they fitted "didn't come with proper o rings", which is a shit excuse but I suppose he didn't expect me to bring it back so soon pointing the issue out.

It has, written down, 6 months warranty on the injectors. That's all I'm really worried l about more than anything as duff ones can wreck the engine. Anything else though I'll do myself. 

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The injectors give very little trouble. I suppose we must have sold 15 or 20 where I worked in 5 years and only one Landcruiser needed one injector. We sold several HiLuxes and a lot of D4D Avensises as well, with no fuel system trouble at all. 

Why there would be any difficulty with o rings I don't know, most Aircon specialists have a large assortment.

 

 

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12 hours ago, artdjones said:

The injectors give very little trouble. I suppose we must have sold 15 or 20 where I worked in 5 years and only one Landcruiser needed one injector. We sold several HiLuxes and a lot of D4D Avensises as well, with no fuel system trouble at all. 

Why there would be any difficulty with o rings I don't know, most Aircon specialists have a large assortment.

With all the research I did, the injectors seemed to have been an issue? A few forums on about the seals (which were copper) should be changed to steel ones from Toyota. And then changing the injectors at 100,000 miles. Then I saw somewhere else that someone said it should be done at 150,000 miles, then another one said 130,000 miles. So now I'm just looking for white smoke, and maybe when it gets to 200,000 just do the injectors then. I don't know, but it's good to know someone who's sold them has said they don't give that much trouble!

As for the O rings, apparently (either) the condensor or the new pipe they fitted didn't come with them. So they used O rings they had. It seems odd to me as well, but then maybe they eyeballed the sizes and used the wrong thickness? I don't know. 

I've sent the lad a text asking what the story is, I'll see what he says.

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37 minutes ago, St.Jude said:

With all the research I did, the injectors seemed to have been an issue? A few forums on about the seals (which were copper) should be changed to steel ones from Toyota. And then changing the injectors at 100,000 miles. Then I saw somewhere else that someone said it should be done at 150,000 miles, then another one said 130,000 miles. So now I'm just looking for white smoke, and maybe when it gets to 200,000 just do the injectors then. I don't know, but it's good to know someone who's sold them has said they don't give that much trouble!

As for the O rings, apparently (either) the condensor or the new pipe they fitted didn't come with them. So they used O rings they had. It seems odd to me as well, but then maybe they eyeballed the sizes and used the wrong thickness? I don't know. 

I've sent the lad a text asking what the story is, I'll see what he says.

There was a problem with the seals up to 2007, there may have been a recall by Toyota. It would be worth checking with a main dealer whether yours got it done.

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15 minutes ago, artdjones said:

There was a problem with the seals up to 2007, there may have been a recall by Toyota. It would be worth checking with a main dealer whether yours got it done.

I did put the VIN through the recall checker, and it came back saying nothing was up with it. But I'll call the main dealer later and ask them to check.

Had a text back from this lad - "Got to send it to a friend of mine who does air conditioning as we cannot sort it". I'll let the third person have a crack at it, but if it's not done by Friday I'll take it back and investigate it myself. 

Edit: I asked him if it's losing pressure, and he said it's "leaking around the O rings". AFAIK, the condenser and the rear pipes have been changed. The only other seals/leaks could be around the compressor, but this talk of O rings leads me to think it's with the condenser, and what the possibility is that they've fitted the wrong one. 

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A bit of an update on this.

I paid the bodywork guy a visit today. A nice enough skin of a lad, very much in the middle. But no sign of the car. As it's with his mate, which is a proper garage. Apparently.

Transpires now - and this is all third/fourth hand now - that it was "steaming". The mate suspected head gasket failure - I know, it's not even a K-series - but did the test and that came back negative. So it's not head gasket failure. What he reckons is that it's the EGR valve cooler - a fucking new one on me, I just thought it was a valve. In fairness, it had smoked a bit on hard acceleration but I thought that was just a standard thing of a diesel. 

But obviously he's explaining this to me, and I look at him and just say "yeah, but what's this got to do with the air con?". The mate of his won't touch it until that's sorted, as I think it requires removal of some bits oh I don't fucking know. 

And dickhead dealer's on holibobs. How lovely for him.

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