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12 hours ago, Bren said:

Back in the day the cheap montego wheel bearings lasted about as long as six cadbury's creme eggs in our house. I suppose now you have to be grateful for what ever you can get.

I believe the wheel bearing is shared with a number of Rover cars and also the first (S1) Lotus Elise. If that's true, there are good quality bearings available (at a price!) from after market Lotus parts suppliers, such as Eliseparts...

https://www.eliseparts.com/shop/steering-br-suspension-1/68mm-wheel-bearing/

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24 minutes ago, juular said:

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Get it done, man!

I have been half-thinking about getting a wee drone to do some photography.

 I even studied the CAA regulations around them in my postgrad. I also have the perfect GT car for it now. A tall-geared, straight-6, leather-lined coupe.

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Its an easy enough fix. Ive done plenty of wheel bearings before! I know theres some reasonable quality bearings available but the design changed in 86 from a two piece to the more common one piece bearing. If mine is the two piece im at the mercy of NOS.

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Knowing ARG at that time, I'm guessing the bearing originated from a Morris Minor, was then modified to fit a Land Rover, had its part number changed six times, then had a spacer added to fit an Allegro (for 6 months only), then made NLA, then specified for the Montego with an oil seal from an Ital, with production changing to a different supplier after two weeks.  Currently on back order since 1991 😄

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10 hours ago, Rusty_Rocket said:

Knowing ARG at that time, I'm guessing the bearing originated from a Morris Minor, was then modified to fit a Land Rover, had its part number changed six times, then had a spacer added to fit an Allegro (for 6 months only), then made NLA, then specified for the Montego with an oil seal from an Ital, with production changing to a different supplier after two weeks.  Currently on back order since 1991 😄

Metro fwb were made at R.H.P. , Consett.

*as many went out the carpark (after a Nightshift...) as paletted on BL delivery lorries 🤫

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21 hours ago, Tommyboy12 said:

Its an easy enough fix. Ive done plenty of wheel bearings before! I know theres some reasonable quality bearings available but the design changed in 86 from a two piece to the more common one piece bearing. If mine is the two piece im at the mercy of NOS.

Quite often if you use the bearing number rather than application it can work out alot cheaper

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So these circlips were a bit of a pig to get out. Rusted in but they're all out now thanks to some gentle persuasion and lots of heat as mentioned. The company I've bought the bearings off has kindly been in touch to check dimensions and application (apparently this bearing is pretty prolific). Should hopefully have them in a couple of days then I can get a garage to press them out and new ones in.

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  • Tommyboy12 changed the title to Austin Montego Poverty Estate - New wheel bearings inbound
48 minutes ago, Dobloseven said:

Are the outer races two separate  pieces? With each part going in from opposite ends, held in with a circlip?You might be able to drift them out and press the new ones in with a vice. 

Outer race is a double angled roller bearing like most modern designs. Press fit. The early Montegos had a two piece ball bearing arrangement with a machined spacer between them similar to the classic Mini which was apparently more prone to failure. The Haynes I have describes knocking them in and out with a punch and the old race like a Mini too. Mine is the crossover year between two piece and one piece (and the VIN is near the crossover too) so I had to take them off first to be sure. Some replacement bearings are double roller but I've deliberately sourced double angled tapered which can support more load for the MAAAADDD power I'm putting down.

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Bearings are at the garage being pressed in so in the meantime I spent lunch time clocking my NOS Speedo ready for fitting. Will be nice not to hear the incessant ticking of the Speedo. Not sure if I mentioned it but the odometer also packed up on the trip too just as it was turning over to 283k so I've added the distance between odometer failure and wheel bearing collapse. I wouldn't want to miss out on that mileage of such a trip!

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  • Tommyboy12 changed the title to Austin Montego Estate - Occasional appearance of the rest of the fleet

Despite all the time I spend on the Montego I actually have other cars to maintain and I thought I might start adding a few updates to this thread and making it somewhat of a fleet thread like others. The white Mini I own has appeared on this thread already with bearing collapse (sounds familiar 🤔) when I tried to get to FotU. I also own another mini which is a car I have had for 12 years. A 1989 Austin Mini with a biiiig turbo. It's rat look and scruffy but it's hiding 170hp.

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It's always suffered from high temps and oil pressure that dips when it gets hot, although it does maintain a healthy 60psi at speed. So i clocked off early today and have fitted myself an oil temp gauge to try and understand a bit more what's going on. Unfortunately the A-series doesn't really lend itself well to measuring oil temps did to the way the oiling system works so I've had to settle for an in-line temperature sensor between the oil filter housing and the block. It's also after the oil cooler I already have fitted but unfortunately it's the best I can do.

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Because I have a big front mound I have bracketry in the way so getting the oil filter off might be an issue. Think I'll have to reconsider my intercooler mounting and shorten it. You can see I already had to cut a chunk out. It's also going rusty.

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Temp gauge is temporarily in place while I think about how I mount a fourth gauge. I like the gauge pod I have and you can buy a quad version so think that's the way I'll go.

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No chance to run it up this evening but I'm now able to actually start to measure my oil temps rather than just pressure.

If you guys want a bit more on this car I'm happy to share. It's my baby and despite it looking ratty I lavish the mechanicals.

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8 minutes ago, Tommyboy12 said:

 

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If you guys want a bit more on this car I'm happy to share. It's my baby and despite it looking ratty I lavish the mechanicals.

Yes. I love the way the Mini couldn't be any further removed from the Montego in any shape or form. I'm also a sucker for getting sentimental about cars- I've owned my MR2 for six years - a personal record by far - and it's staying forever. 

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49 minutes ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Yes. I love the way the Mini couldn't be any further removed from the Montego in any shape or form. I'm also a sucker for getting sentimental about cars- I've owned my MR2 for six years - a personal record by far - and it's staying forever. 

Definitely couldn't be much further removed from the Montego. Both quirky in their own way though. Much like yourself I couldn't possibly let it go of it!

11 minutes ago, hairnet said:

when is the mini engine going in the tego :D (kidding)

 

I did contemplate turbocharging the A-series in the Montego for a very short while but I actually like it being the most poverty of poverty!

 

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