maxxo Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 for some weird godforsaken reason, i love them i want one, can't really afford one at the moment or maybe i want sectioning? anyone got one i can have a go of to hopefully realise i hate it etc of course that won't happen and i'll fall more in love (what happened with the C5) so, how likely are they to shit themselves? fancy a 2.2 DCi auto..... will it grenade itself and cause me a full mental breakdown? replies are appreciated, i know i'm an idiot Dan_ZTT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmorris Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 You’re a glutton for punishment aren’t you! Try a C6 and an avantime too;-) maxxo and chodweaver 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, richardmorris said: You’re a glutton for punishment aren’t you! Try a C6 and an avantime too;-) already driven a C6 recently, it was very very nice avantime is a dream, but vel satis seems it may be more exciting* *unreliable Twiggy, richardmorris and Carlosfandango 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmorris Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Good luck, the world has too many sane people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, richardmorris said: Good luck, the world has too many sane people! well i bought a C5 from a motorway services and have been doing mega miles in it as my only car and ignoring expensive sounding problems just french cars do something to me i love em richardmorris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, maxxo said: or maybe i want sectioning Yeah, this maxxo, richardmorris, Cookiesouwest and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_ZTT Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 There's a particular one that's been through many owners on this forum, myself included, l only had it a few months due to other life circumstances but it was proper brilliant, despite the moon mileage. That one is a petrol manual though. My short thread on it is here; If you search for Vel Satis on here you'll find some threads from other owners of the same car, there's a fair few. Key points; Very very very comfortable Surprisingly large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Crackers said: Yeah, this the fact i love french cars from the early 2000s, especially citroen and renault means i should be for my own sanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dan_ZTT said: There's a particular one that's been through many owners on this forum, myself included, l only had it a few months due to other life circumstances but it was proper brilliant, despite the moon mileage. That one is a petrol manual though. My short thread on it is here; If you search for Vel Satis on here you'll find some threads from other owners of the same car, there's a fair few. Key points; Very very very comfortable Surprisingly large oh i have a thing for french diesel autos, as i love punishment yes, i recall reading that rather wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chodweaver Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just the best seats in any car, ever. maxxo and Dan_ZTT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 no you're all meant to be trying to talk me out of it! Dan_ZTT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_ZTT Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, maxxo said: no you're all meant to be trying to talk me out of it! @NorthernMonkey worked on the moon miles one more than anyone so he's probably the man to scare you off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, maxxo said: no you're all meant to be trying to talk me out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djoptix Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Do it. Get the 3.5 v6 if you can - awesome engine. Kringle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserone Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I still would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuke Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Secret condiment holder behind the decorative trim. That is all. Dan_ZTT and barefoot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernMonkey Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Dan_ZTT said: @NorthernMonkey worked on the moon miles one more than anyone so he's probably the man to scare you off! It’s just an Espace saloon really…nothing to be too frightened of. Electric handbrakes can be a pain but other than that, no real nasties. Not sure I’d fancy braving a Heather Mills though…not really a fan of millennial Renner auto boxes. Oh yes, and the clock is a true thing of beauty. Worth owning just for that. barefoot and Dan_ZTT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_ZTT Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, MrDuke said: Secret condiment holder behind the decorative trim. That is all. Wasn't so secret in mine, would pop open if you went over a speed bump... Still super cool though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 32 minutes ago, djoptix said: Do it. Get the 3.5 v6 if you can - awesome engine. This. Whatever you do, don't get the 3.0 V6 diesel. Kringle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, wuvvum said: This. Whatever you do, don't get the 3.0 V6 diesel. why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, NorthernMonkey said: It’s just an Espace saloon really…nothing to be too frightened of. Electric handbrakes can be a pain but other than that, no real nasties. Not sure I’d fancy braving a Heather Mills though…not really a fan of millennial Renner auto boxes. Oh yes, and the clock is a true thing of beauty. Worth owning just for that. mmmmmmm, just how bad are the auto boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernMonkey Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, maxxo said: mmmmmmm, just how bad are the auto boxes? To be fair, I’m probably a bit biased due to a Laguna 1 auto in the family years ago that became a pain in my arse with its electronics. Always been wary of them since then but maybe unfairly. Buy one and let me know what you think! 😂 Kringle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 51 minutes ago, maxxo said: why not? Because it's a thunderously shit engine. Not much better on fuel than a 2.0 petrol, needlessly complicated, a twat to work on and prone to going into limp mode randomly and / or shitting its cooling system. It's not even that powerful - 170bhp as standard, which isn't a lot more than a 2.2 dCI. It can probably be tuned, but then it'd break even more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean36014 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I'm the current custodian of the autoshite Vel satis. It's more comfortable than the Jag it replaced. Really quiet and relaxed on the motorway. Seats are the most comfortable ever. Typically sticky Renault plastics of that era, can't stand the electric handbrake, just seems a massive faff and not in the easiest of places to reach. The best money I spent so far has been to buy the Renault Clip diagnostic tool. That way you can disable the tyre pressure sensors and change a lot of the computer settings to your preference. If you're ever in the Coventry area you are welcome to have a drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somewhatfoolish Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 7 hours ago, maxxo said: no you're all meant to be trying to talk me out of it! 3VOM, Cookiesouwest, Dan_ZTT and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescarruthers Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 At the time of the Vel Satis, the Espace was still being made by Matra. I don’t think the Vel Satis has anything to do with the Espace at all. The Vel Satis is pure Renault. Personally I found the Avantime to be a massive let down in ride compared to the C5 Mk. 1 and C6. Hopefully the Vel Satis isn’t so jiggly. I too would like to have a blast in a Vel Satis one day but (again personally) the styling doesn’t do it for me. They are very cheap when they do come up though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Haven’t driven one but I can only offer anecdotal advice as one of my uncles had one when it was nearly new. Said it felt really weird to drive, like nothing else. I don’t think it was all that clever on fuel and I seem to remember the tyres were stupidly expensive if you went for the correct load rating, I think only Michelin made them, going back at the time they were something like £200 each. I don’t doubt others are available much cheaper now but this was when they were new. In other words drive one first and have patience and deep pockets if you decide to get one. Worth it I think for the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETCHY Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 An incredible comfortable special place, to wait in for the RAC to arrive.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 That's not really fair. I was custodian of the Autoshite Moon Mileage special for a couple of years & my fair wife drove it for 18,000 miles as her daily. The EML would come on every so often & the parking brake was a twat, but it only actually FTP with her on one occasion when a siezed front brake caliper caused hidious vibration on the motorway. The electric multiway, heated opera seats, the curious radio & the clock were superb and you can't see its ugly arse when you're sat inside it. It was also deceptively brisk and I wish you'd posted this a couple of weeks ago. A local bloke, who's garage I frequent, bought an MOT'd automatic diesel version to use as a parts donor for his father's example. His old man subsequently decided to get rid of his Renault and the silver one has I think, been sold for scrap! loserone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 If it was a diesel auto, it was probably the 3.0 V6, in which case the scrapyard is the best place for it. Dan_ZTT and barefoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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