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E30 M3 values have been stratospheric for a few years now, collectors only really.

now's probably the time to tuck up a nice 6 pot E36 if you have the space, and i think 3.0 E46s have bottomed and are climbing a tiny bit too.

i've had a 3.0 E46 for 10 years, they're great cars, quick, comfortable, and reliable (if maintained!). Probably one of the best-documented cars on the internet for DIY too

 

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13 hours ago, HMC said:

Is it m3 values that’s pushing them up? I remember having a look around a £6.5k m3 in about 2006. That seems to be what a 316 is valued at now.  

In 2013 when I was looking £20,000 seemed normal for a M3 E30 and £60,000 is normal now. A top of the tree Sport Evolution sold for £170,000 last year.

In the end in 2013 I bought an E36 M3 Evo for a fraction of the E30 price but it has not seen the mad raise of the E30s. Further as is the Autoshite way to ensured restricted investment I bought the Convertible rather than the Coupe.

I still have the E30 325i I bought 10 years ago and E36 M3 Evo. 

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While I don't think the E36 will match E30 prices (simply because the E30 will keep pushing forward and the E36 was more mass-produced - I suspect the E36 is just a much more polished car, too), I do think it's not long before the E36 M3s do that trick that the Jaguar XJ-S and things like that did where it's like you blink and they've gone from £5K to £15K; except M3 Evos are still firmly in five figures aren't they? The £40K E36 M3 probably isn't that far off.

My BIL's brother has an E46 330ci convertible that they mentioned selling last year and not-knowing it was a 330, I threw my hat in the ring. That hat is still there should they decide to part with it, such is the impression the E36 has made on me.

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9 minutes ago, RichardK said:

While I don't think the E36 will match E30 prices (simply because the E30 will keep pushing forward and the E36 was more mass-produced - I suspect the E36 is just a much more polished car, too), I do think it's not long before the E36 M3s do that trick that the Jaguar XJ-S and things like that did where it's like you blink and they've gone from £5K to £15K; except M3 Evos are still firmly in five figures aren't they? The £40K E36 M3 probably isn't that far off.

My BIL's brother has an E46 330ci convertible that they mentioned selling last year and not-knowing it was a 330, I threw my hat in the ring. That hat is still there should they decide to part with it, such is the impression the E36 has made on me.

suspect the days of a not-shagged 4 figure M car are over. I'm jonesing for an E39 M5 at the mo but i missed the boat on those 3 years ago while buying a house

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On 09/06/2021 at 14:38, seacow said:

Had my 316i for nearly 10 years now - 67k and i am the second owner.  I really enjoy driving it - not fast  but great fun.  There are a couple of 316 on the bay at the moment headed to 10k - thats too much.  Mine was valued at 6500 for the insurance.  I keep looking at more modern 3s and 5s - as love an old beemer.  Would get a 6 cylinder on a second one.

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Where are these 316s heading for 10k on eBay? Solid 325 coupes only seem to go for £8k.

There’s a very tidy 4 door 316i auto for £2k currently with four days left. I might put a bid on it.

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On 6/9/2021 at 5:44 PM, sierraman said:

These are making mad money, just been looking at them, the absolute pariah of every BMW dealer a 316 auto 4 door in beige is up at £8k. 

‘The ultimate driving experience’

How very dare you.

Our beige 316 auto used to be a pariah but now it’s a classic Coupe’., I’ll have you know.

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On 6/2/2021 at 8:47 PM, DavidB said:

This is solid underneath fortunately - it has rust on the front valance or metal bumper, and rear valance, and the bit around the sunroof, which was allegedly bodged by the previous owner. I've seen much worse, sold for more money with more doors. Auto isn't a problem, it doesn't bother me but it's a day's work to swap for a manual. :)

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I don't know what this is exactly (filler?), and I know they go around this area, but I know it'll need to be cut out. It doesn't leak though ...

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Everything else looks nice, I bet the driver's seat doesn't look like a Shredded Wheat.

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I so want this!

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I miss my E36 318is. I bought it off a bloke and his husband after it had sat on the lad's late mothers driveway unused for three years after she died. She also owned a 1979 Mercedes 350SL ragtop that they'd just sold due to having to sell her bungalow. He was fighting back the tears when I went to buy it! Every other sentence he said was "she was a beautiful woman," and as his house was a shrine to her with old monochrome pics of her everywhere I'm inclined to agree, she looked like a late 1960s Diana Rigg. I think I paid £250 for it and after a set of front pads it flew through its test.

It was never my intention to sell it but my traders insurance was up for renewal and I needed to send the broker some car ads to prove proof of trading. I listed it on Gumtree for the (then) OTT price of £895 and to my surprise a couple of Asian lads from Bolton turned up determined to buy it. They wanted to part ex an E36 316i saloon and looked genuinely shocked when I pointed out to them that it had HGF. Undeterred, they phoned me up throughout the week, first offering me £750 and then £850. In the end they made me an offer I couldn't refuse, full asking price plus another £50 to deliver it to Bolton. 

I arrive in Bolton at the agreed time and place, a hand car wash somewhere in town. The ecstatic buyer gets it valeted there for £6. When I mention that's cheap for a valet he replies, "This is Bolton, everything's cheap here, life's cheap here." Apparently he wants the paintwork shining so he can admire it whilst he's working on the doors of a club later that evening. At this point I struggle to keep a straight face as this lad if 5'6" tops! 

The sad thing is the prick managed to kill it shortly after he bought it. It never went for another MOT.

 

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I've had my fair share of old BMW's. The older stuff is definetely a cut above their contemporaries.

I had an e28 M535i, which was horrible but probably worth a fortune now. The best ones I had were an e21 323i, 320 baur convertible and a really lovely e28 525e.

I also had a really mint e34 535i sport, which had horrendous piston slap, about 75bhp and I crashed into a ditch on black ice. 

I found the early ones (particularly the e21's) quite tricky in the wet and I had brown trouser moments in nearly all of them thanks to wayward rear ends.

 

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21 hours ago, seacow said:

To be honest there are big swings. There is a 316 lux on for 15k now and was a touring for 10k. But agree you can get decent ones less but it’s getting harder and there are few bargains. 

4 star recently advertised a Touring 325 for over £12 big ones. Seems like it went for near that. 🤯

It wasn't me gov, but I know a man that did.

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I had this 316i Auto. Gold with gold interior. It had 50k on it I think and had been owned by an old lady from new.

An old lady who'd never changed the oil as it turns out as the oil pressure warning light came on the first time I drove it. I did an engine flush and changed the oil and it fixed it thankfully.

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I also had this base 318i with the old 8v engine,  This was a great car, not fast or anything but nice to drive and good on fuel.

The engines are pretty unburstable it kind of went down hill for BMW 4 cylinders from here.

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What was the 324d like? Anyone driven one?
Not personally but I have driven an e30 and a Vauxhall omega td separately so I can make a guess.

Firstly it's important to note that this is a TD so lock up your rice puddings, this badboy has 115hp and an autobahnstorming top speed of 117.

So it will have been more or less like a slightly slower 320i. The engines do a good job of sounding ok for a diesel. Internet says 0-60 in 11.6 seconds vs 10.something for the 320i.

Watch out for the 324d with no turbo, 85hp when new and 0-60 in 16 seconds. Same noise but not a fun drive.

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There was this really nice Alpina 2.7 REPLICA on eBay that finished today. Auction was a bit weird. Really vague description and all about the car it was based on. I messaged the guy about whether it would manage a prebooked mot as it didn’t have one.
 

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Allegedely brakes were stuck on etc etc.

MOT report says it passed an MOT last month, and previous ones were scary on rust. He didn’t reply about my query on it’s just passed MOT.

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Someone’s going to £10000 cry when they up to collect!!

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One of my pin up cars when I was a teenager was a light met blue BMW E3 3.0Si manual.

I bought a brown 2500 Auto in Feb 2009 which I had for nearly 4 years, but it did not quite hit the spot.

I then found a white 3.0S manual that I have now had for 10 years. This one has hit the spot and is a keeper. Carb instead of injection so 20bhp down but still has a comfortable performance.

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