RichardK Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 MOT attempt two: alternator stopped play. I thought I'd got it behaving, but it needs a new regulator I think. Nothing like having done 13 miles, given up, turned around then having to drive past a police car. Suspect they looked at the plateless, LHD, beige Ukrainian beauty whizzing by in a horde of tractors and tourists and decided life is too short to ask all those questions... I reckon I'd have made it to the MOT if there hadn't been so much congestion, as it was stopping in traffic and the very eager cooling fan cutting in that knocked it from 'enough charge' to 'draining the battery'. Now I really don't have time to get it sorted by FotU - suspect that'll be next year and I'll take the 323C this year. On the plus side, that was a 26 mile round trip in the Tavria at times reaching almost 60mph, in traffic, and aside from the stress of worrying about breaking down it was quite pleasant. The brakes need a firm shove, but you can give them that firm shove and the car doesn't actually fold up around you. egg, timolloyd, GrumpiusMaximus and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 Tamworthbay, Lacquer Peel, Jim Bell and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 Of course, if I fix the alternator and someone has trade plates I could still move it to FutU without needing a trailer… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jude Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, RichardK said: Of course, if I fix the alternator and someone has trade plates I could still move it to FutU without needing a trailer… Could you not arrange a pre-booked MOT test next door to FutU? That would be the autoshite way - I think. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 4/26/2021 at 7:54 PM, St.Jude said: 1990's the USSR economy was on its hole, years trying to match the bullshine "Star Wars" program the US had that just turned out to be fiction. A lot of that went on. Think it was also the time when the USSR gave New Zealand a load of Lada's in exchange for milk and butter. Think as well for an export to be fruitful, the exchange rates needed to work in favour of them. Which I think the roubles was worth pebbles at the time, and us pig dog decadent westerners wanted fancy stuff like a radio. So that cost them money. Although saying that, 1990's-ish was off the back of the Lada Riva being in the top ten best sellers in the UK. So they had some sort of momentum too. But enough of that, I want to see more of your beige bits! Image attached of Lada pick up that were distributed by the NZ Dairy Board...spotted in Taranaki. St.Jude, LightBulbFun, RichardK and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jude Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 37 minutes ago, Rab said: Image attached of Lada pick up that were distributed by the NZ Dairy Board...spotted in Taranaki. That's proper horny. I like it. Rab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 In this video Benjamin Bald gets driven around Kryvyi Rih in a Tavria - from 13 mins cobblers, St.Jude and Ghosty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobblers Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 You beat me to it! egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 No progress, too overworked, but: RayMK, Datsuncog, EightMegs and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jude Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 At least with this petrol bollocks going on, you can try it out on cheap Grants vodka if you get stuck. LightBulbFun and RichardK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 It’s got half a tank of Momentum! St.Jude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jude Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 41 minutes ago, RichardK said: It’s got half a tank of Momentum! Posh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumbler Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 14 hours ago, RichardK said: It’s got half a tank of Momentum! That's doubled the value of the car! If this crisis carries on we'll have filled petrol tanks with free cars attached being sold. Tadhg Tiogar and AnnoyingPentium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 Various things have conspired against me this year, but this car is still destined for the road. My enthusiasm got knocked after all the MOT hassles - the alternator is coming out now the weather is improving and I'll have to see if I can get the missing battery clamp from somewhere other than Ukraine I suspect... privatewire, LightBulbFun, timolloyd and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 It looks like a Lada alternator might fit after all! But also the battery sounds a bit 'fizzy' when charging - and when I put it on a clever charger, it charged it, but then bailed with an error during maintenance mode, so I am wondering if the issue is actually a duff battery. Finding the correct battery is an interesting exercise - some sites say 078, it has an 063, I can't find a definitive picture to show which way around the wires went. And I still need that clamp... juular and Coprolalia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 Alternator oot: Unlike Warren G, I think this may not regulate. Or have anything to regulate judging by the corroded terminal. So I need this: But at least I got to clean this ready to waxoil it. AnnoyingPentium, Skut, Dyslexic Viking and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 It also looks like I may have to move the Tavria on - it makes me stressed enough not having covered storage but surgery in June might put me back into automatics again. And I don't want it to keep lingering unused and not getting shown anywhere. Anyone interested can drop me a line with suggestions. It's slightly better than when I got it in that I've bodged a light non-destructively and the bootlid no longer wants to decapitate you, but obviously still not MOTd/registered, the main drama being that fucking August vs. June 1995 emissions cutoff and testers being utterly unwilling to read the fucking manual. Which can be resolved with a letter from the IFA club but this has escaped my executive function and chaos thus far (it may be resolved soon though). St.Jude, timolloyd and Skut 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skut Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Sorry to hear you’re thinking of selling. Just read most of the thread. They were everywhere in Ukraine in 2015 when I was there. I thought the look of an 80s car with wheels that leave the Drums exposed was so cool. One snuck into a photograph of the new safe confinement. mk2_craig and RichardK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share Posted April 16, 2022 It's a practical thought if anyone feels strongly they can make the best of it, particularly with the focus on Ukraine and better awareness of the region, but I don't actively want to sell, however I would rather sell than face more months/years of disability and recovery where even if I can fix it I can't physically drive it. The MX-5 may go too if the surgery suggests six months + of two-pedal/left foot again. But I'd swap it for a C70 Coupe Cab or an SLK or somesuch rather than not having it. I've seen a few on films/TV reports lately but given they're up to 12 years out of production and Ukraine is a good economy with many "middle class" equivalent families depending on region, they've probably all been (gratefully and with much relief) swapped for Hyundais and Dacias or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 Brushes have continuity to the contacts, contacts were green. Ultrasonic clean brushes, clean contacts on regulator pack, cross fingers. Tried improving solder on manky brush but it's so contaminated it was a wasted effort I suspect. However, I can measure the brush dimensions and get new ones if needed. Nice thing is now I've seen the alternator body off the car it's clean inside and bearings are good, and the regulator pack can be removed with the alternator in situ so if I put it back together and test and it doesn't work I'll just resume the search for new regulator (found one in Poland but they won't ship to pariah island). Fumbler and Dyslexic Viking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 12.4V from the +ve, decreasing under load. I /think/ the regulator is the issue - and the part is shared with Lada, albeit in a different configuration. The good news, plenty for sale online. $4ish. The bad news.... guess where they are. No, not Ukraine (LadaPower is still trading apparently but there are bigger things they need to worry about surely), but Russia, where I am sure the people selling are fine and probably normal Russians not supportive of asshat Putin, but can't pay for the bits! So the same part seems to be shared with all manner of things in the eastern bloc/balkans, but finding one actually for sale and shippable is hilarious. Latest attempt: MTZ tractor spares supplier in Hungary (damn, wrong revision. Needs to be a 112A as the 112B has different internal wiring for diodes so won't work). Jim Bell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 Dare I hope... Sveiki Richard, Jūsų užsakymas Nr. sėkmingai priimtas ir šiuo metu yra vykdomas: Produktas Kiekis Kaina Generatoriaus relė (šokoladas) JA112A1 M412, AZLK, GAZ, ZIL, 412/370150-10 4 20.00 € If that has worked, there should be four spare JA112A regulators on the way with DPD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 Aha! There's the whole brush pack!https://www.detava.lt/produktas/krovimo-rele-su-sepeteliais-m4123701500-m4123702000/ Also USSR car owners might enjoy this section. I was able to add my address, select DPD courier and pay with credit card and it shows the correct shipping address etc. so I suspect this will be okay. Lithuanian car parts places are all over eBay and I've bought that way before without problems... Not much Tavria still (i.e. none which isn't shared, though I did see bulb holders that might transplant) but plenty of Lada bits. https://www.detava.lt/produkto-kategorija/rusisku-automobiliu-dalys/ If I can get the alternator fixed I will take this to FotU on trade plates, if I can find someone prepared to lend them. Much to Lancaster's chagrin it is still insured on the chassis number (and they're sick of asking me about it as much as I am sick of explaining why it's not done yet). Coprolalia and Rust Collector 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jude Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 21 hours ago, RichardK said: No, not Ukraine (LadaPower is still trading apparently but there are bigger things they need to worry about surely) LadaPower are also based out of Belgium, so the chap there Jan is still sending things out. Although I don't know how he'll get stock. Sorry to hear the potential sale of this, but more sorry to hear you need a bit of fettling yourself. Good luck with it pal, hopefully you'll be back double de-clutching in no time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, St.Jude said: LadaPower are also based out of Belgium, so the chap there Jan is still sending things out. Although I don't know how he'll get stock. Sorry to hear the potential sale of this, but more sorry to hear you need a bit of fettling yourself. Good luck with it pal, hopefully you'll be back double de-clutching in no time! Jan was downright hostile when I asked about Tavria parts last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jude Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, RichardK said: Jan was downright hostile when I asked about Tavria parts last year. Maybe you caught him on an off day? Last time I got stuff from him he was sound, but he did give off the impression of a busy man who's spinning a lot of plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, St.Jude said: Maybe you caught him on an off day? Last time I got stuff from him he was sound, but he did give off the impression of a busy man who's spinning a lot of plates. Possibly, Sam recommended him but the response I got to what I thought was quite a gentle and polite enquiry meant I never wanted to ask again. Again, the situation now means I really feel like asking about car parts is the most trivial thing in the world and people have bigger fish to fry. However, I have been prompted to shuffle finances, sort out the last bit (I think, need to check) for Sam, and join IFA to see if I can get the letters I need to MOT and register it. It's still going to have to go, the surgery is making me too anxious, but I suspect the way to avoid this being a very expensive detour in my car ownership is to make those last hurdles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 Back in the hiding place until parts arrive. Datsuncog, puddlethumper, Coprolalia and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 Check this beast out! Was reading a Tavria forum and it seems they started to disappear from the roads around the same time the UK got scrappage (not counting the fact that Slavutas were sold until 2008-9ish)...https://www.drive2.com/s/B7EkwEAAAhQ Would be very curious to see the mid-90s Polish-made ones, about 3000 were assembled there with Polish components making up a fifth or so of the bits attached to the shell in CKD form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 Google finds all: This image was shared on a defunct FB group and published in a Russian language car page as part of a story about Tavrias. If nothing else it gives me some ideas where right hand drive headlights could maybe be found... The three UK ones, of which Ed Hughes has a survivor. K407 and K408 were untaxed as of their first year expiring and last V5 issued in 1999 for both. Weirdly I still can't find the first Tavria I ever saw online, which was the white H-plated one in the midlands with an EV conversion. The original post and image is credited to Julian Nowill.https://news.obozrevatel.com/auto/news/pravorulnaya-zaz-tavriya-ne-ochen-udachnoe-pokorenie-britanii.htm mk2_craig, puddlethumper, 11001010 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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