RichardK Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 Helpfully it has a part number - 362.3716113-10 - and I looked up Riva lights and they do look awfully similar but with some clear spreaders to stop the clips detaching… The part costs 26 pence. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.vr.zp.ua/katalog/patron-zad-fonarya-dvuhkontaktnyiy-tavriya/14122/ egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 They are very similar! Sadly no dual filament bulb version as the 5/21W position here is done using two separate bulbs. If you want to see if there's any way they're useful (reckon with a bit of drilling they'll match up fine for the other positions) I'll happily pop them in the post to you for free. They're just cluttering up my garage as it is. How I'd probably do this if it were my car would be to get a standalone lamp holder of the appropriate type and just bolt it on to the PCB (with spacers if necessary for isolation), running wires to the relevant traces and soldering them on. LightBulbFun, egg and RichardK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 They are very similar! I will say thankyou but decline taking them, as they're not the same so I'd just be depriving you of known Lada parts - but I am fascinated by the little spiders to reinforce them! I'm going to fibreglass and epoxy the holder I have to restore it to working order for the MOT - and then I'm going to work on getting a box of parts from Ukraine, where the holder is a whole 26 pence so I'll buy 10 of each one and a couple of spare PCBs, as well as a lot of other silly stuff like rubber seals. New radiator is £15. If I can find reasonable shipping and avoid too much tax idiocy this won't be a hard car to keep in shining condition. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bezzabsa Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 nice weekend trip part shopping????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Yeah, the securing mechanism is quite clever. Done on the cheap, but clever. Very Lada! RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Zelandeth said: Yeah, the securing mechanism is quite clever. Done on the cheap, but clever. Very Lada! And very ZAZ is only doing half the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, bezzabsa said: nice weekend trip part shopping????? Oh, definitely. I really mustn't be allowed near whatever the Ukraine equivalent of FB marketplace is (probably FB marketplace) as I'll end up coming home with all the toy cars, tinplate models, bears and abandoned Tavrias. Noticed that a ZAZ 968 is about the same price as a synth. There WILL be another Zaporozhets in the UK by the end of 2022. Fumbler and LightBulbFun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Hey if you can find an extra driver, I would definitely like to buy an early-ish (round taillamp) 968 if one could be landed here cheaply so why not make it a convoy? I know two people who drove 968s back from the East with no problems whatsoever, so I reckon trying to bring two back would just make it twice as likely to succeed. Fumbler, LightBulbFun, RichardK and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 hours ago, barrett said: Hey if you can find an extra driver, I would definitely like to buy an early-ish (round taillamp) 968 if one could be landed here cheaply so why not make it a convoy? I know two people who drove 968s back from the East with no problems whatsoever, so I reckon trying to bring two back would just make it twice as likely to succeed. Well, it's a thought well in the future - and to be fair, I'm liking what I'm seeing from Lithuania and so forth in terms of prices, but I've read Sam's account of retrieving one and while the car may be cheap, the sundries could get very interesting - so I'm trying to be realistic, but a round-light/ears one is my preferred aesthetic. I wouldn't kick a later one off the driveway if that's what I could afford. I am sure it would be possible to arrange a suitable convoyesque trip! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TataBobu Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 5 hours ago, RichardK said: Oh, definitely. I really mustn't be allowed near whatever the Ukraine equivalent of FB marketplace is (probably FB marketplace) as I'll end up coming home with all the toy cars, tinplate models, bears and abandoned Tavrias. Noticed that a ZAZ 968 is about the same price as a synth. There WILL be another Zaporozhets in the UK by the end of 2022. Here, let me tempt you: https://www.olx.ua/transport/legkovye-avtomobili/zaz/ RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 9 hours ago, TataBobu said: Here, let me tempt you: https://www.olx.ua/transport/legkovye-avtomobili/zaz/ It I had the space there would be a Dana and a Tavria Pickup too… And one of those hunchback Tavrias. It’s a little Ukrainian bear to compete with Italian Pandas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrett Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Crikey. If my sums are correct, this little beauty is £230 and according to the vendor "will get you where you want". Do you think I could hold him to that? GrumpiusMaximus, LightBulbFun, LabRat and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 DO IT. LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Should I open a book on how long the collection fred will actually be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan_dyane Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 14 and 24 for me please Rod/b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKT Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, barrett said: Crikey. If my sums are correct, this little beauty is £230 and according to the vendor "will get you where you want". Do you think I could hold him to that? As far as I know it can be a bit of a pain to export cars from Ukraine. Something about needing to be a Ukrainian citizen to get export docs IIRC. RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timolloyd Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Progress will be incredibly slow due to all the women desperate to climb aboard. mk2_craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, timolloyd said: Progress will be incredibly slow due to all the women desperate to climb aboard. Or escape the trunk, depending on who went to retrieve the car. timolloyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 I have no idea what plastic that bulb holder is made of but it's just resisted some epoxy as well, so I'm definitely going to have to get creative before Monday. I hate gluing things that won't glue! Now my fingers are, of course, glued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, RichardK said: I have no idea what plastic that bulb holder is made of but it's just resisted some epoxy as well, so I'm definitely going to have to get creative before Monday. I hate gluing things that won't glue! Now my fingers are, of course, glued. abuse a poor soldering iron and try and plastic weld the bits together perhaps? RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethj Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, RichardK said: I have no idea what plastic that bulb holder is made of but it's just resisted some epoxy as well, so I'm definitely going to have to get creative before Monday. I hate gluing things that won't glue! Now my fingers are, of course, glued. Could be something like Acetal which is reasonably good at temperature and has low friction for sliding in lamps. Unfortunately it’s got very low molecular bond strength so glueing it is difficult. RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said: abuse a poor soldering iron and try and plastic weld the bits together perhaps? I have a plastic welding kit But i’ve bought a wired holder and will attach it non-destructively so I can revert when I have new holders! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 *scowls at the weather* to be fair, the rain is more holding up working on the Jaguar than it is the Tavria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJK 24 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Great thread, great car! Eagerly awaiting more! LightBulbFun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Cut one clip off and the holder fits perfectly. Originally just taped down and then tested, but the brake light lit the reversing light slightly so I ended up soldering instead. It did the same when hooked up and I was a bit confused, before realising I’d disconnected the earth wire. Fortunately it's all reversible. And now we have a full set of lights Coprolalia, garethj, egg and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Looks like a good job, that's exactly the same way I'd have tackled that problem I reckon. mercedade, RichardK and LightBulbFun 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 To be honest, I'm tempted to get another set of lights and cut the backs to hold this style of bulbholder. If I were using the car lots, maybe. Just because the PCB is of such dire quality (but then this is part of the charm of the ZAZ I think, if the Facebook groups are anything to go by. Nothing causes confusion to Ukrainians with unloved worthless cars than some English dude actually LIKING it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandeth Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Yeah, on the Samara I wound up soldering the loom onto the pads where the edge connector used to be - that reduced the frequency with which I had to faff around getting the brake lights and indicators to work at the same time (or stop the indicators coming on when I selected reverse) from daily to a couple of times a month. RichardK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardK Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 Well… will it pass tomorrow morning? I sense new tyres (and all the fun that entails) in my future. Screenwash full, lights checked, beam-benders ready to fit… not much more I can do! puddlethumper, egg, GrumpiusMaximus and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jude Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, RichardK said: Well… will it pass tomorrow morning? I sense new tyres (and all the fun that entails) in my future. Screenwash full, lights checked, beam-benders ready to fit… not much more I can do! If the tyres are cracking or bald then? I'm going to say it's a pass. I'm on my 4th bottle of beer so I'm in an optimistic mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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