maxxo Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 It’s a crying shame really, they do suit the autobox extremely well, and it’s a fantastic gearbox, always in the correct gear shame it’s made by the French and a complete reliability disaster 3 pedal C5 does seem the way forward, bearing in mind I’ve not driven a manual properly since my Picasso there will likely be much stallage RoverFolkUs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffgeezer Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Also worth trying Boston Automatics for a quote too, very knowledgable. RoverFolkUs and maxxo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy F Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Sorry to hear of your gearbox woes. Just parked next to this C5 in Bourton on The Water car park and thought of this thread. Also, got some funny looks from all the posh people in their Range Rovers and Audi's snapping two elderly Citroen's! myglaren, maxxo, AnnoyingPentium and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Andy F said: Sorry to hear of your gearbox woes. Just parked next to this C5 in Bourton on The Water car park and thought of this thread. Also, got some funny looks from all the posh people in their Range Rovers and Audi's snapping two elderly Citroen's! Oh an exclusive too! Either a 2.2 or a V6 with those wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexi Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 4:39 PM, maxxo said: It’s a crying shame really, they do suit the autobox extremely well, and it’s a fantastic gearbox, always in the correct gear shame it’s made by the French and a complete reliability disaster 3 pedal C5 does seem the way forward, bearing in mind I’ve not driven a manual properly since my Picasso there will likely be much stallage If it's the AL4 box then made by the Germans..........Siemens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, lexi said: If it's the AL4 box then made by the Germans..........Siemens French design mostly but yes the reliability issues are 99% caused by old fluid contaminating the valves or in the case of mine a combination of things, mostly just worn out, also wrong fluid being used at some point im really hoping to get 185k from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 Just gone for a little drive out in the sticks oh dear this is at a steady throttle…… I believe this is an undesirable development IMG_3741.MOV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3VOM Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Air leak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeT Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Looks a bit ‘hunty’ going up the gears there, but I’m not an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, 3VOM said: Air leak? oh how i wish that was the case..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, JakeT said: Looks a bit ‘hunty’ going up the gears there, but I’m not an expert. surprisingly, the engine isn't hunting it's the transmission slipping at low speeds under light load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeT Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, maxxo said: surprisingly, the engine isn't hunting it's the transmission slipping at low speeds under light load Sorry, that’s what I meant. Hopefully you can get it sorted easily enough. I know a good auto box man, but he’s in Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, JakeT said: Sorry, that’s what I meant. Hopefully you can get it sorted easily enough. I know a good auto box man, but he’s in Reading. just going to run it until it dies and then make a decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 One thought, can you buy a car that is as good as this one and that you will like exactly as much as this one for what the cost of fixing the gearbox will cost? BeEP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Dyslexic Viking said: One thought, can you buy a car that is as good as this one and that you will like exactly as much as this one for what the cost of fixing the gearbox will cost? 2k for the gearbox i can get a really nice low mileage C5 for that in top "exclusive" spec which is what it looks like i'll do richardmorris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, maxxo said: 2k for the gearbox i can get a really nice low mileage C5 for that in top "exclusive" spec which is what it looks like i'll do Yeah it makes more sense, here it would be difficult if not impossible to find a good C5 for that price. myglaren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescarruthers Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Did you drain some of the fluid off when you added the recent snake oil? I’m just wondering if it just isn’t happy being slightly overfilled? myglaren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, jamescarruthers said: Did you drain some of the fluid off when you added the recent snake oil? I’m just wondering if it just isn’t happy being slightly overfilled? 125mls or so I believe the additive was i can’t see that making much of a difference tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescarruthers Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, maxxo said: 125mls or so I believe the additive was i can’t see that making much of a difference tbh Me neither, but if the guy who refilled yours has also gone a little over there could be an accumulative effect, plus heat expansion, etc. I think getting the level right is quite complicated to do with temperatures and drips. Grasping at straws on your behalf here! The C6 has the same box doesn’t it? If so, here’s the fill procedure: C6AutoGearboxdrainandrefillprocess (1).pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, jamescarruthers said: Me neither, but if the guy who refilled yours has also gone a little over there could be an accumulative effect, plus heat expansion, etc. I think getting the level right is quite complicated to do with temperatures and drips. Grasping at straws on your behalf here! The C6 has the same box doesn’t it? If so, here’s the fill procedure: C6AutoGearboxdrainandrefillprocess (1).pdf nope C6 has a completely different box, my C5 has the same box as later xantia's....the AL4 surely for it to be completely problem free for months until recently it has to be wear related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Has it thrown a big strop yet because you didn't take it to shitefest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamescarruthers Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, maxxo said: nope C6 has a completely different box, my C5 has the same box as later xantia's....the AL4 surely for it to be completely problem free for months until recently it has to be wear related Ah sorry, I was convinced otherwise. I stand corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 minute ago, beko1987 said: Has it thrown a big strop yet because you didn't take it to shitefest? probably so yes but i'm in a bit of a strop with it due to how it was behaving today so much so i pulled over and sat at the side of the road to let it cool down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnoyingPentium Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, maxxo said: probably so yes but i'm in a bit of a strop with it due to how it was behaving today so much so i pulled over and sat at the side of the road to let it cool down @maxxo earlier today... High Jetter, MorrisItalSLX and maxxo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, AnnoyingPentium said: @maxxo earlier today... Basically yes This was taken whilst I was letting it cool down AnnoyingPentium and richardmorris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmorris Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Auto boxes continue to be the Achilles heel of Citroen. I think the CX three speed was ok if high revving, but the xm, bx, xantia and c5, c6 seem to be made of cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkyarddog Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Is the Trans cooler working effectively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, richardmorris said: Auto boxes continue to be the Achilles heel of Citroen. I think the CX three speed was ok if high revving, but the xm, bx, xantia and c5, c6 seem to be made of cheese I can’t say anything bad about this box, touching 180k, had the wrong fluid in it, never had a fluid change before me and god knows what had happened to it at the start of its life but I agree, they seem to suffer a fair bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxo Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, junkyarddog said: Is the Trans cooler working effectively? Doubt it, but again, that’ll be a nightmare to repair its ran off the engine coolant so I’m a bit reluctant to touch it in case I fill the transmission with coolant which is very much bad times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisItalSLX Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Is the £2k sum for a rebuilt or second hand transmission? It’s possible that a low mileage box from a breaker is out there for a reasonable sum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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