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Operation BROWN CAR (Rover P6 3500S): ...Our survey says!


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Does the oil light come on with the ignition off? I.e. the circuit works. If so, then I probably wouldn't worry* about the pressure. Iirc these Rover v8s move oil about as high flow rates but at low pressures. 

 

* Which any one who's read the thread on my MGB won't believe is true. 

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8 minutes ago, SiC said:

Does the oil light come on with the ignition off?

The light comes on when you switch the ignition on, then immediately goes out when the engine fires, if that's what you mean.

I.e. yes, the oil light functions as it should.

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If the oil light comes on with the ignition and goes out when the engine starts then I would look towards the voltage regulator or the gauge. The sender seems to be working.

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8 hours ago, 2flags said:

The sender seems to be working.

The oil pressure light is triggered by a seperate switch, so I've not seen any evidence to say the sender is ok. As mentioned above, easy to earth the sender wire briefly to check the gauge, and/or measure the resistance of the sender to earth.

I will check if I have a spare - I certainly did as I removed the original to fit one with the right resistance and reversed direction to drive the Hyundai gauge. Whether I binned it I cannot be sure...(but I doubt it!)

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A lovely drive over to a classic specialist this afternoon, I'm leaving it with them for a few days to give it a proper inspection on a ramp and assess the situation regarding the few issues I'm having with it.

If their repair quote is not too ridiculous I'll have them do the work as I'm lazy and I would almost certainly make a mess of it anyway because I'm an idiot. 

Forgot to take a picture as I was in a hurry and also managed to park it in a stupid place so the photo would've been crap anyway. 

I did, however, take it to work today for a change, and agreed with a colleague to bring his rather lovely classic in too. Annoying the photo opportunity was ruined by the seagull that took the liberty of leaving an ENORMOUS deposit on my bonnet 🤬 so this will be repeated soon when the car is both fixed, and cleaned. 

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39 minutes ago, Crackers said:

I did, however, take it to work today for a change, and agreed with a colleague to bring his rather lovely classic in too.

Is that an E46 M3 coupe to the left as well? Not many E46 coupes around these days either, especially nice examples...

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Just now, Mrs6C said:

Is that an E46 M3 coupe to the left as well? Not many E46 coupes around these days either, especially nice examples...

No, it wasn't an M3. To be honest I didn't have a look at what it was, but it might have been a 330Ci Clubsport. There's lots of older modified BMWs in the car park so it could be anything really, if I see it again I'll have a look. 

There is a bona fide E46 M3 in blue there from time to time which is very very tasty. I should really take some photos of the stuff around the various car parks - there's all sorts - although I'm not sure how well that would go down if they found out. 

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  • Crackers changed the title to Operation BROWN CAR (Rover P6 3500S): We're off to see the wizard

I've had a look online for parts as pretty much everything is available. I've not found any single required part that's over £80, with most being significantly less. 

Garage are drawing up an estimate at present, but I'm tempted to try and do a lot of this myself (possibly with the assistance of a shiter or two who actually know what they're doing?) and just get the garage to do the few safety critical bits. 

They've already sorted the oil pressure gauge, the pressure was proven to be excellent but the wiring had a few FUBARed joints which they've soldered back up. 

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4 hours ago, Crackers said:

possibly with the assistance of a shiter or two who actually know what they're doing?

If we all have to help replace rubber bits then I'm getting in early and volunteering for replacing ONE HT LEAD. 😁😁😁

I will also offer an out-of-sight guarantee on my work, insofar as once I have replaced it to my satisfaction I will close my eyes and there shall be zero comebacks on me from that point onwards

In all seriousness, whats needed? I'm sure we could help with some of the bits?

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Please bear with me while I drop trou and prepare for all the money in my life to be jettisoned through the back door.

Basically, everything mechanical is good (oil pressure was checked and proven very healthy), and no rust was commented on (phew), however:

My entire inspection report is a pretty long list which basically boils down to - "Rubber? Yeah, not seen him m8".
Their detailed estimate came out at £HOWFUCKINGMUCH?! which I'm really not prepared to spend. Details as follows.

We have a near full-house of lower suspension bushings and rear diff/crossmember mounts which are worn, soft, failed, oily, or otherwise FUKT. This goes some way to explain the various clonks, I did see this coming but not to the extent it's turned out to be. 

Front brake caliper dust seals have also let go, causing a sticky piston hence the uneven braking.
And they reckon the clutch master cylinder is leaking back, I guess that would explain why the pedal went soft on me once, but I didn't really think much of it as it didn't do it again. They can't investigate the shudder on taking power before the master's sorted, so, I guess that'll have to get done by them first - fair enough..

The rear De-Dion assembly is worn, parts generally NLA now except off breakers. They're capable of doing the required machining on the shaft and bushings, but they haven't quoted for that and frankly I don't want them to - I'll live with that, unless it gets worse.

I need to really think how I'm going to approach this. The parts, while readily available and not expensive individually, add up to a pretty hefty sum. Whilst I have the mechanical skills of an ape, I'm fairly handy with my fingers, so instead of letting them replace the calipers, I reckon I could probably pull them off and rebuild them myself, saving a a lot of money in the process. I could do the front flexi brake hoses too. 

That leaves me with the rather expensive elephant in the room; the various rubber bushes and mounts, which I don't have the ability, knowledge, or tools to tackle myself, but I also don't really have the money to pay garage prices to have it done. Hmm.

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  • Crackers changed the title to Operation BROWN CAR (Rover P6 3500S): ...Our survey says!

Is there anyone located between London and the South Coast who has some slightly perverse fetish for changing suspension bushings? Apply within!

(I make excellent tea, purchase cake and biscuits, offer frequent helpful* advice, and can provide many many beer tokens in return for the privilege* of working on this fine 4 wheeled conveyance)

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