The grumpy thread

[dollywobbler]

I hate selling cars. I need cars to sell. No cars are selling. Distance card getting played quite often. Downsides to rural living right there!

[Lacquer Peel]

Don't buy so many

[danthecapriman]

Fucking shocking what's happened in Vegas. Awful awful thing to happen to innocent people that don't deserve it.

How many more lives must be lost before gun laws are sorted out in the states!?

[Lacquer Peel]

Surely the answer is more guns.

[danthecapriman]

Surely the answer is more guns.

Terrible isn't it!

There was someone on the TV saying the answer is to what you do with a bad guy with a gun is to get a good guy with a gun!

I'd say the solution starts some way before that. This imho is how America so badly let's itself down. It's awful.

[DodgeRover]

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Our laws are strict but I could easily go out and buy a firearm illegally tonight.

[dollywobbler]

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Our laws are strict but I could easily go out and buy a firearm illegally tonight.

 

Sounds like this chap had quite the arsenal though. That's trickier. I could not just walk into a shop here and buy a sub machine gun for instance. "Guns don't kill people" is baloney. They do! And when they're everywhere, people are going to get killed. 

[danthecapriman]

Trouble is there's so many guns floating around over there now and they're so easily accessible to anyone it's going to be incredibly difficult to control now.

It just seems to keep happening, be it a school or college or something like this.

[DodgeRover]

A gun is a tool. Most uk stabbings are carried out with kitchen knives should you ban those to or restrict your bread/ carving knife to sub 3" and non locking?

[danthecapriman]

I'm not anti guns. I actually like them! I love the old ones, particularly WW2 stuff and intend to get myself some as a collection (deactivated though) as I love the history that goes with them.

 

But on the other hand why would anyone need to own a live sub machine gun, or fully automatic gun!? They're police and military weapons and should have no place in the hands of a civilian. This twat seemingly had an arsenal at home and about 10 machine guns in the hotel room.

There's something seriously wrong with that I think.

I just can not fathom what the hell this guy was thinking. How could anyone do this!?

 

Anyway. Thoughts with those killed and injured and their families.

[dollywobbler]

A gun is a tool. Most uk stabbings are carried out with kitchen knives should you ban those to or restrict your bread/ carving knife to sub 3" and non locking?

 

That's not really a fair comparison. A knife is only any good at close quarters. Sure, pretty much anything can be a weapon, but a gun makes it very, very easy to kill someone, perhaps many people, very quickly, even if you are nowhere near them. Kitchen knives exist to cut food. Guns only exist to kill people (or other animals), and there really are a lot of them in America.

[anonymous user]

You can shoot clays you know, it doesn't have to be animals or other people. I may reserve it for myself one day if it all gets a bit too much

[DodgeRover]

I also think you are forgetting America is not England, if we for instance (re)introduced bears, wolves, alligators and venomous reptiles here then people would most likely be quite keen on possessing something to prevent them and their family being an easy dinner.

 

As an as side a European friend had the job of guarding the family sheep at night while he wasn't at school, I jokingly asked if that was from 2 legged vermin and he said no wolves and bears and he had a fire and a left over AK47!

 

I believe (and I could be wrong) that fully automatic and machine guns are illegal already in most states?

[Lacquer Peel]

Not in Nevada, they have the most lax gun laws of any state.

How many gun owners actually need to defend themselves against wild animals?

[Pillock]

Also, whilst knives aren't banned you can't carry them in a public place so they are very much restricted. 

And this coward in a hotel room wouldn't have been able to stab anyone from that distance. Guns enable death on a much bigger scale than a kitchen knife.

 

America? How many people are at risk of bear attacks, vs how many people are shot with a weapon that was accessible in an environment that didn't need a weapon to be present (school, concert, mall etc) People in the middle of LA don't need to guard against bear attacks. And if a snake is about to attack you you're not going to shoot it, they move way too fast. The only snake you'll ever shoot will be absolutely not a threat to you because it'll be nowhere near you.

 

All in all a pretty poor argument - I'm fine with people saying it's a sport, since I do archery which kind of falls under the same idea of something that was originally a weapon being used for sport. But you don't need weapons in the house, if it's purely sport you can have them locked in a safe at a shooting range.

[Cavcraft]

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WHS.

 

 

To compare guns with knives is a nonsense. Anyone using either as a weapon to hurt or kill someone (unless in the army during a war, or something) is a grade one shit house and a coward, especially a gun. It just takes someone unbalanced or dangerous enough to have a bad day and start taking people out.

All those 'we have a right to arms' wankers can just FRO, no matter what country they're in. If you're deluded enough (including being taugh so by your parents/government/country) to believe you have a right to own a gun, then it's no wonder places like America are fucked now, as they'll never stop people owning guns. I utterly and whole heartedly despise weapons, there is just no excuse for the public to have guns.

[cort16]

The regulation is a joke. You need to go through a process to buy a gun new, can't have a criminal record etc but you can freely trade them 2nd hand with no registration.

The sensible thing would be to give them serial numbers and issue with them with a gun v5 document but they won't do this as they thing the gubberment would use this to target the people with all the guns come the civil war.

[dollywobbler]

I also think you are forgetting America is not England, if we for instance (re)introduced bears, wolves, alligators and venomous reptiles here then people would most likely be quite keen on possessing something to prevent them and their family being an easy dinner.

 

Oh come on. Do you see Australians defending themselves with bloody guns? Not too many bears, wolves or alligators in most American cities I shouldn't think, and if you're using a gun to defend yourself from a reptile that isn't a T-rex, I'd say you're overdoing things slightly.

[robinmasters]

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got close to falling for this one*, actually got to click on the bastard link, yeah i know but a subliminal glance at the url on my phone got the pass, not suggesting you do!

 

Asks for address dob and debit card details etc

 

cunts can rot in hell

 

*just sold a car and cancelled the dd for rfl, suspected that they were trying to get more from me, the link suggested a £42 refund, yeah right fuck off

 

I've only ever had one of these, but I was on the train on my way to collect a car. Nearly fell for it.

[MrDuke]

There is no good reason for anyone outside of the military (and/or possibly police) to own an automatic weapon, anywhere. If you really need to defend yourself against animals or cull vermin, use a shotgun. If target shooting's your thing, use a single-shot rifle or pistol. Yes, they could be used to kill people, just like knives, hammers and scissors, but you'd have a job massacring a whole street-full of people with a Beretta 68.

 

 

In other grump news, insurance. Got an online quote from FJ for £220 with 7k limit and saved it. Went back a few hours later and edited it for a higher mileage, but kept getting 'unable to quote' messages, even after dropping the limit again. Phoned them up, gave exactly the same info, but now it's £460.    Or rather, it isn't, because Flux (yeah yeah, I know) only wanted £450 and I get to resurrect my 4-years-out-of-date no claims. So that's kind of a grin, I guess. Meh.

[DodgeRover]

Oh come on. Do you see Australians defending themselves with bloody guns? Not too many bears, wolves or alligators in most American cities I shouldn't think, and if you're using a gun to defend yourself from a reptile that isn't a T-rex, I'd say you're overdoing things slightly.

Firearms ownership was pretty common in rural Australia and in NZ, primarily for hunting for the freezer and vermin control.

Given the size, power and speed of a large adult salt water crocodile (Aus) I think something suitable for stopping a tank would be my choice if just staying as far away from the water as possible wasn't an option.

 

Does anybody know if the attack in America was terrorist related? I've no TV and they didn't know on the radio earlier.

[danthecapriman]

Firearms ownership was pretty common in rural Australia and in NZ, primarily for hunting for the freezer and vermin control.

Given the size, power and speed of a large adult salt water crocodile (Aus) I think something suitable for stopping a tank would be my choice if just staying as far away from the water as possible wasn't an option.

Does anybody know if the attack in America was terrorist related? I've no TV and they didn't know on the radio earlier.

This would be my choice for stopping a murderous croc!

 

German Anti-Tank Rifle WW1 by shipscompass, on Flickr

 

WW1 Mauser anti tank rifle. 13mm round!

[castros_bro]

A white middle class male American killing Americans (white middle class Americans?) with, what appears to be loads of guns,  but using mainly automatic weapons (designed to kill people not shotguns for defending against rogue animals) being used, and not a Muslim terrorist unless they were in the + 20000 country music festival  audience.

 

 

PS I have also been shot at by Americans.  

 

Now can we leave this as it;s not Autoshite anymore and going nowhere.?  

[Stanky]

There is no good reason for anyone outside of the military (and/or possibly police) to own an automatic weapon, anywhere. If you really need to defend yourself against animals or cull vermin, use a shotgun. If target shooting's your thing, use a single-shot rifle or pistol. Yes, they could be used to kill people, just like knives, hammers and scissors, but you'd have a job massacring a whole street-full of people with a Beretta 68.

 

 

In other grump news, insurance. Got an online quote from FJ for £220 with 7k limit and saved it. Went back a few hours later and edited it for a higher mileage, but kept getting 'unable to quote' messages, even after dropping the limit again. Phoned them up, gave exactly the same info, but now it's £460.    Or rather, it isn't, because Flux (yeah yeah, I know) only wanted £450 and I get to resurrect my 4-years-out-of-date no claims. So that's kind of a grin, I guess. Meh.

 

Have you cleared the browser cache then run through the quote process again?

[Cavcraft]

Perhaps the best thing to do if you move to an area where dangerous animals have roamed the earth for hundreds or thousands of years is to not move there in the first place, or to just avoid them?

[cobblers]

nope, easily available guns and zero mental health treatment are the only solution to that one cav

[Lacquer Peel]

Leave those animals alone.

[sheffcortinacentre]

What pearls of wisdom have you come across?

 

Had this one today from guy with an imprezza

" why can't you tow my imprezza by lifting the front wheels?"

"Because it can damage the gbox on some 4wds if one end isn't turning by being lifted"

"But this is all wheel drive not four wheel drive"

 

& we share the roads with these people!

[Guest Hooli]

I got told in all seriousness once by a passenger that I shouldn't block shift as it destroys gearboxes.

[DodgeRover]

Boris Johnson

£144k is not enough?

Really?