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Nice work!! That sill repair looks very well carried out, good to see you got it repaired properly. These P6s have aged well, they look better now than they ever did before.

By the way, that kickdown cable needs to be connected for those Borg Warner boxes to work properly. It’s not just for kickdown operation, it regulates the line pressure in all operating conditions, so driving with it disconnected will slip the bands and clutches and quickly cook the gearbox.

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Ta for the kind words...... brings a tear to my eyes, oh no what that could bee th cost of the welding 😖😭😂🤣

30 minutes ago, sickboy said:

Nice work!! That sill repair looks very well carried out, good to see you got it repaired properly. These P6s have aged well, they look better now than they ever did before.

By the way, that kickdown cable needs to be connected for those Borg Warner boxes to work properly. It’s not just for kickdown operation, it regulates the line pressure in all operating conditions, so driving with it disconnected will slip the bands and clutches and quickly cook the gearbox.

I can weld, just not this much and not particularly pretty, given it's me and the boy j  the car I'd not want to scrimp on the safety front.

I aim to have a go at bettering g my welding next year  🤞 crossed.

The kickdown ties in with the throttle  linkage too, I had it done when it was being welded up as it goes in from below two birds one stone and all that, and it saved me taxing my  medium ish skill level and lack of lift - didn't fancy struggling with it on axle stands.

30 minutes ago, dollywobbler said:

Gorgeous. Lovely number plates. I had a Series 1 V8 on a J with similar beautiful plates.

Your numper plate perversion is noted  and well known 😂

5 minutes ago, Jikovron said:

I mildly covet one of these, I've toyed with the idea of getting a base unit to get busy welding up but never seen anything of the correct roughness to price ratio.

They are relatively cheap,  but it's either a good one for 4/5k and up that are pretty sound mostly or rotters that are close to going over the bridge for anywhere between 500 quid and 2 grand.  I still want an estate and an S (yeah yeah , must get a house and a garage first !)

Belive me my donor  car was shocking  and pretty much felt apart on a mates driveway and I had an "s" waiting to be started project wise that was pretty far gone (I didn't fancy  transporting  it to Wales  from  Lhaandhaaan  as a non runner so let it go to an enthusiast* who then doubled his money  punting it on  and didn't go into condition  details so much)

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Amishtat said:

Lovely, and the same colour as my old 3500S. Only problem is that when a manual V8 is the first P6 I'd tried, the fours just don't do it for me. What's it like under the rear seat? 

Cameron green.  Under the rear is pretty good. A patch either side where it was a bit frilly by the d post but all solid now. Indeed the 4s are nice but the 8s spoil you

14 minutes ago, bezzabsa said:

Enjoy the 3.5 woofle.... loved it in my RR Classics 

Definitely,  nothing like burbling to the shops for some milk.   😁  Ahh a  a classic Rangie is on my list... I just need to save up.

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2 hours ago, Low Horatio gearbox said:

Cameron green.  Under the rear is pretty good. A patch either side where it was a bit frilly by the d post but all solid now. Indeed the 4s are nice but the 8s spoil you

Definitely,  nothing like burbling to the shops for some milk.   😁  Ahh a  a classic Rangie is on my list... I just need to save up.

I have owned 3....2 1970's   J & P reg 2 doors, and a M plate Softdash Vogue SE 300Tdi..bloody gorgeous motors, been priced out of the market now tho..V8 disco's aint too bad..had a G reg V8 on carbs, that somehow managed 18Mpg round town, where the RR's struggled to get 8!!! 

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Very nice bezzabsa. It's an itch I'd like to scratch  just for a year  or so but as you say entry now is almost astronomical  in the 25 -150k range !😩 I've seen few sub 10k  running project ones but didn't have the cash at the time, currently  I dont have the (any!) space. I'd like an early one but it will probably be a later 80s just to get one for a reasonable price.

1 hour ago, colino said:

Cameron Green just like my last one, but if its frilly like that, how is it above the suspension at the back/boot floor?   Then you notice the door glass rubbers (replacements are like service items) have made the door bottoms a bit flappy.  Great, useable cars though. 

The boot is ok a patch by the nearside light cluster on the floor panel but otherwise decent and solid. The sills had just been patched gradually over the years and it looked messy but was mostly solid.   Indeed, they are most usable and comfortable,e to drive and as ever it has the best soundtrack built in.

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2 hours ago, bezzabsa said:

I have owned 3....2 1970's   J & P reg 2 doors, and a M plate Softdash Vogue SE 300Tdi..bloody gorgeous motors, been priced out of the market now tho..V8 disco's aint too bad..had a G reg V8 on carbs, that somehow managed 18Mpg round town, where the RR's struggled to get 8!!! 

The prices of those are just ridiculous now.. My mate had an Mot'd E reg Vogue out of the Coventry Evening Telegraph for £275 in 2004 just for its engine and let me have a spin while he smoked it around using up the ticket. Bloody lovely old thing, he liked it enough to get through at least two more tests before I lost contact with him. 

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5 hours ago, Ghosty said:

How are the rear brakes? 😅

Excellent ! Mainly as new ones had been fitted for it to pass* its mot/for its sale.  In board and a bit of a pig to get at and you need a specialist tool to back them off..crappy access... need 3 hands etc. I hope (intend) to have a lift in my next garage which will make the in board brakes on this and the XJ  more manageable,  plus whatever other excellent* cars I aim to get.

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6 hours ago, Bren said:

Valvoline do a good oil with zinc for the valvetrain. However it is not cheap.

Your's looks a nice example. Better to get it solid first then worry about the cosmetics later- which you have done.

I would like one of these but in north american spec.

Vr1 yep what I use - good oil and tyres are where I wont scrimp.  It's nice, but dont get too close!   The cosmetics  can wait another 18 months 2 years , I wanted it solid which it is now. I could have gotten a more cared for solid example  and saved a chunk of money but where is the fun in that! 

What I've learned and remebered/re learned in the last 18 months was worth it  - plus telling my son the car he chose was being chopped in for a big loss to buy an near identical one with less character* didn't appeal.. big softie.  Another is on the cards an "S" for sure and maybe an Estourer  and I'd like a 4 pot TC to try - not all at the same time tho! and I'd buy the best I could rather than money put like this but I'm unlikely to sell this one.

 

I even saved the shagged out front seats and made my son an office chair with one 

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(This isn't my son obvs...)

 

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^hehe. Conrad D Conelrad. It's only FTP properly once due to the reserve valve vibrating half open and the ( relocated to under the boot) fuel pump basically circulating the fuel back to the fuel tank constantly. The coil slowly died but never stranded  me..more than a few minutes 😁😂🤣 

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7 minutes ago, Low Horatio gearbox said:

^hehe. Conrad D Conelrad. It's only FTP properly once due to the reserve valve vibrating half open and the ( relocated to under the boot) fuel pump basically circulating the fuel back to the fuel tank constantly. The coil slowly died but never stranded  me..more than a few minutes 😁😂🤣 

Ah, electric fuel pump. So the most egregious fault has been addressed already. An engine bay mounted Huco pump improved my P6 massively. Freshly rebuilt rear calipers is great, it means you won't have any trouble with the brakes for weeks. Just check your brake fluid level every few minutes and you'll be fine. When it starts disappearing, at least you know it's probably the servo and not the rear calipers, although in my case it was one and then the other. 

If we're doing cats on P6 seats, here's my contribution:

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Nice car!

I have fond memories of my mustard-yellow 3500S which I enjoyed for 6 months in 1984. I enjoyed the credit card bills for the petrol for the next 6 months. It was a replacement for my Spitfire - I wanted something a bit more robust around me. The idea was that I'd be able to afford to run it as I wouldn't drive it that much. But I just loved driving it so much I always took the long way round. So smooth and V8-burbly. I looked at several rust buckets before I found a solid one which had a solid shell. The wings had all been replaced -  just 12 years old.

The manual gearbox was horridly notchy but who needs to change gear with a torquey V8? Lots of other great features - the knobs operating the quarter lights, the steering wheel, the dash at night - just lovely. 

It wasn't without it's own personality foibles though. The blown rear oil seal would drip oil straight onto the exhaust Y-piece causing much smokiness - inside and out. This was apparently caused by a stuck pressure relief valve hence high oil pressure - common problem back then I was told and it also causes the tappets to wear out. And then there was the time the diff fell out - not completely but the cross-piece that attached it to the body fractured at one end leaving it hanging by a single bolt. I don't know if that's common but the local BL dealer had one in stock for some reason. I had a slow drive home hoping the other end didn't snap - I don't imagine the brake pipes would have supported it for long. I'd love another one, but I'd have an automatic, like yours. If we had room. But I'm told we don't.

Good luck!

 

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