garellikatia Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Is it just me , but why on earth do they make spanners with 12 points, and not 6. I think about 90% of bolt heads I have are hexagonal. And having hexagonal shaped spanner heads give the required purchase and prevent rounding. Thoughts.... 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayMK Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, garellikatia said: Is it just me , but why on earth do they make spanners with 12 points, and not 6. I think about 90% of bolt heads I have are hexagonal. And having hexagonal shaped spanner heads give the required purchase and prevent rounding. Thoughts.... 🤔 Access and angles 😀.  Banger Kenny, twosmoke300, Tenmil Socket and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garellikatia Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Haha now you mention it , that's a great point! Didn't even think about that! It's funny how something can be blindingly obvious, but easily overlooked haha RayMK and Banger Kenny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twosmoke300 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 My prized tool possession are a set of snap on 6 point combi spanners - only used when bolts threaten to round but lovely to have in the drawer Banger Kenny and HMC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garellikatia Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, twosmoke300 said: My prized tool possession are a set of snap on 6 point combi spanners - only used when bolts threaten to round but lovely to have in the drawer Ah nice! Yea I bet they can be a lifesaver at times. Must be worth there weight in gold! Quite literally too being snap-on! Haha Banger Kenny and twosmoke300 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfg Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 if the cheaper combi spanners were made six-point - then their points would round off as often as the nuts  .. and the manufacturers would soon go bust ! garellikatia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Most are multi-point as a matter of course now, socket and combination spanner sets. I find when ordering tools at work I have to specify 6 point if its what I need. Impact rated tooling still 6 point though for obvious reasons garellikatia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cade Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 In a tight space, you only need to take off the spanner and move it a few degrees to get it on again and turn more, but a hex needs turned to the next flat, which can be impossible.. multi hex grip the points rather than the flats so less torque is needed to round off the bolt or nut.open end spanners only grip 2 flats so round off 2 points when they slip sutty2006 and garellikatia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooSavvy Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I managed to get out a tight/rusty headded bolt (12MM) using a Torx internal socket... It just happened to be 12mil between the inner nodes so gripped the tatty rust excuse for a hex in the 'nominal centre land'.... Booff = Straight Out! garellikatia and Banger Kenny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 More to the point would be why 12 sided sockets exist, as you can rotate the ratchet to get it where you want - so why 12 sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jude Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 The idea of access etc is an interesting one. But given if you have a ratchet spanner, they're still 12 pointed and not 6 pointed? bunglebus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cade Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 From the Teng product website..  It's a question we get asked all the time. Which should you use, 6 point sockets or 12 point sockets? The answer? Well it depends on the job you're looking to do.    6 Point Sockets Ideal for jobs that require a large amount of force. Additional contact surface along the flat edges of the socket make it less likely to slip. Slipping strips bolts and that's definitely something you don't want to do. The thicker walls also add a lot of overall strength.  12 Point Sockets The additional points make these sockets easier to connect with the heads of fasteners. This is ideal if you are trying to work on a fastener that is hard to see or you cannot see at all. 12 point sockets are also great for use in tight spaces as they allow you to connect to a fastener at more angles.     Asimo and Banger Kenny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garellikatia Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Wow, quite a comprehensive little guide there! Seems 6 point would be a little better for working on classic cars, or old cars in general, space permitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garellikatia Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Used a few different union spanners last night to take off some pipes off a master cylinder, glad I had them as I imagine the open ended spanners would have just rounded them straight off! Glad I had those, that's what made me think about the other spanners I had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, bunglebus said: More to the point would be why 12 sided sockets exist, as you can rotate the ratchet to get it where you want - so why 12 sides? Its a bit of a combination of things. Where access is good like external fittings on a machine then yes you can move the ratchet to where you want it. But if you are working on machinery internally or in an engine bay for example, you might have very little travel room for the ratchet before hitting an obstacle. You can buy ratchets with a fine tooth action as well (more teeth to engage on in a shorter range of travel) but these are dearer Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cade Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 if you are down the back of an engine, upside down in the dark and you can only get 1 hand in..2mm can make all the difference. If you can move the ratchet handle less than the pitch of the ratchet teeth, then it's useless Matty, Banger Kenny, tooSavvy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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