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You can't knock the sealesman for offering £350 for a £600 car as they have to try and get something out of the deal.There's no main/large dealer I've ever met who'd go anywhere near a car for a £250 profit as by the time it's been prepared for sale it would have swallowed that tight profit margin. I would suspect the £300 offer was bottom CAP price at the auction to be honestThey (salesmen) might even be told they have to take Scrappage Scheme cars in only if older than a certain age so is under pressure from the off.I'm also siding with FD here: he's doing his job which he's been asked to do. I can't imagine he'll either make much comission or stay in his job too long if he tried to persaude everyone bringing a part-ex in not to use Scrappage Scheme.Can everyone who uses this forum say they've never scrapped a car or had parts off one that could have been saved?I've binned absolutely loads of 'retro' cars because I couldn't sell them on even at same price as weigh in and I doubt anyone else would keep hold of a car for months on end in the hope they can get a buyer when it's quite often the case there's more money in the weigh in, just as LankyTim will undoutably know with his Renault.You can't save 'em all and we shouldn't be knocking people for doing what their bosses pay them to do.

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Granted, everybody has to do the job that they were paid to do,,and,,noby in their right mind would give 3K for that Fuego,,but anybody who has any feeling for old shite(,,and I know that most main dealers couldnt give a shite,,) should try to save stuff like this. There was a Government Scrappage scheme over here in the early 90's which cleared a lot of 70/80s cars. Most of that stuff is now the cars that we long to get and indeed most of it is now sourced in the UK. Please dont let it happen :cry: On the other hand,,that Fuego has a few incorrect details as Mr. Renault 18 Pointed Out....I personally think that it is a facelifted Fuego from '83 onwards judging by the Flarings infront of the rear wheels and the silver strip between the Front doors and rear windows, which would make the Interior Correct,,but the front bumper and grill would then be incorrect so this one seems to be a bit of a missmatch I could be wrong --sorry for the anorack moment :oops:Oh yeah,,Green tinted glass in back,bronze in front . mmmmm

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I've saved a few cortinas only to find out that less than a year later someone else has weighed them in anyway.One that really annoyed me was a very very tidy '82 crusader that I rescued from the drive of a local family who had inherited after the old boy owner died.Full Ford History, serviced every 6 months regardless of miles and sat on 43k. Had been left in a damp garage for the last couple of years so needed some minor welding but overall it was very very good.Sold it on cheaply and the bloke that got it gave it a satin black paint job, then he passed it on to a guy who broke it for parts because it needed a patch on the seatbelt mount. Wish I'd just let the old boys family keep it.Also a mk4 GL i saved from the banger track, got it roadworthy and sold it at a loss to a bloke who kept it six months then raced it anyway. So i quickly realised theres very little point in "Saving" cars.

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You can't knock the sealesman for offering £350 for a £600 car as they have to try and get something out of the deal.There's no main/large dealer I've ever met who'd go anywhere near a car for a £250 profit as by the time it's been prepared for sale it would have swallowed that tight profit margin. I would suspect the £300 offer was bottom CAP price at the auction to be honest.

no your right if the car was acctually worth only £600.he was offered £300 trade in but trade value on the book was £1285 i sold it for £650 for a quick sale to a local dealer who had it on his lot for £1495 and sold it within the month.there was more than enough profit in the car to make any salesman happy but instead he was trying hard to push scrapage even though the car was to new and that he had only owned it for 8 months.that was the strange part if you ask me :shock: Do they have targets or something for scrapage
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^ Thing is though, at that level a main dealer won't be interested in retailing a car at that price irrespective of how much profit there is in it. If a car books at £1250 in GG then they will want to give less than that as £1250 is what they can expect at auction. But they still have to pay auction fees, transport and such like so will offer less than any 'trade' value.£300 does sound cheap though.Actually, a certain dealer group who shall not be named decided to start retailing all their p/x stuff about ten years ago. Allocated a set area on the forecourt, brought in portacabins and bunting and retailed the p/x tat once it had been through the workshop.Recon costs were enormous but given the fact that the cars had a very healthy markup and most were sold on finance it was a very profitable operation.But most main dealers won't retail anything over about five years old normally.

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^ Thing is though, at that level a main dealer won't be interested in retailing a car at that price irrespective of how much profit there is in it. If a car books at £1250 in GG then they will want to give less than that as £1250 is what they can expect at auction. But they still have to pay auction fees, transport and such like so will offer less than any 'trade' value.£300 does sound cheap though..

yes i hear what your saying but a 2000 golf is always going to be worth more than £300 the £1250 price was the trade price not the fourcourt price.the dealer that bought it off me said that he would stick on his lot for a sellers fee but it was better to just let it go for the offer he made.afterall my brother got an extra couple off grand off his new one so the extra 650 was a bonus.Still i wouldnt recomend the pushy dealer who tried to entice him into a dodgy scrapage deal :shock:
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How can the car be saved Talbotman? That COD thats issued when it's crushed is the death knell for the Fuego and it's pretty imminent now :(Just wish there was some sort of loophole that exists which meant I could 'swap' the vehicle to be crushed with some other relic that's falling to bits and polluting the atmosphere...

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nice to here a bit of support from more established members,but some of the newer ones haven't really got a clue about how things work in the real world,couple of knocks about my job aswell,what what you do?1 k tayne? how the fuck do you work that out?

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nice to here a bit of support from more established members,but some of the newer ones haven't really got a clue about how things work in the real world,couple of knocks about my job aswell,what what you do?1 k tayne? how the fuck do you work that out?

can't see how its your fault at all to be honest. Its the Governments 'fault' and the people who are scrapping perfectly good motors.I think its great that you have posted the pics on here as its good to know, (although sad to see) the cars that this crazy scheme is taking. :(
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It would only have taken £1k to save the Feugo, not the 3 or 4 thats being bandied about.

I did think this, seeing as a grand comes from the Govt,and the rest is "found" by the dealer/manufacturer. By that thinking, the dealer/manufacturer could subsidise a non-scrappage deal by the same amount. Or will the manufacturer only stump up if a car is scrapped?However, would anyone pay even a grand for that Fuego? I very much doubt it, so it's fate is sealed.
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Once a car has been vandalised with an aftermarket sunroof there's no way back anyway. :(

Last year I picked up a very rough but taxed and tested VW Golf mk 1 (2 door) for £70. I ran it around for a couple of months then stuck it up for sale for £250.A chap from a garage on the wirrel who specialised in doing up and selling classic cars came to see it and was more worried about the custom sunroof than the general state of the engine, gearbox and rough bodyshell!he did buy it but said if it didnt have the sunroof it would be far more desirable.
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I did think this, seeing as a grand comes from the manufacturer/dealer

Manufacturers only pay on scrappage vehicles. Not on carsthatweresupposedtobescrappedbuthaven'tbeen. Dealers don't contribute to the scheme although some dealers will offer additional discounts. In this case the dealer has bought a billionty new Vauxhalls obviously at a considerable discount so can offer a discount in addition to the scrappage allowance.On the typical new car though - Picantos, Pandas and the like the dealers margin is so small that they won't offer any discount on the list price other than the scrappage allowance.
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The owner is a Muppet though. How can anyone go from a Fuego to a Corsa.

sad thing is the uneducated who just see cars for going 'a to b' will see that as a MASSIVE step up.they will see it as trading an unfashionable unreliable old banger for a brand new 'reliable' car under warranty.I know as a lot of people I know think im crazy for 'collecting old bangers'. My ex girlfriend even refused to ride in my Capri!, hence she is now my ex.
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what do you do for a living?

I travel back in time to WWII, shoot innocent jews in the back and fling their bodies into a mass grave. Well, if I didn't do it, someone else would do it......Wouldn't want to rock the boat or lose my commission on the body count. Bit of a harsh parallel to draw with what you are doing, but it's a parallel nonetheless.
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You are 60 yrs old, you have had this shitty Renner for years, its worth sweet FA, you get a good price on a new easy to drive car that's good for the rest of your lifetime Corsa. Its a good deal.In our eyes it awful, getting rid of a rare car, in their eyes it is a right deal. And they are right. Its not their fault, its the policy that's at fault. If i had fucking arthritus i would want a Corsa over a friggin' Fuego. Especially at 4k discount.Dont blame the muppets that are trading them in or FiatDaft for having to earn a living.

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And i am a head gardener for a large estate.yes not car related one bit, but ive had my fare share off dealings with the car trade as i used to be a mechanic in a ford main dealership and have also bought and sold more than my fare share off motors :wink: For the past couple off months we have been looking for a new family modern and i have to say that the dealers dont apear to be to atall intrested in doing a deal is that becauseA we are not intrested in a scrapage deal or B we dont want to take out finance

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Oh, I am sorry for my comments. Let's all give you a round of applause. Well done for binning off all these old motors! When I pay my taxes at the end of the month I'll take great pleasure in knowing that a small part of them is going towards keeping you in cheap suits and your customers in shiny new Corsa's. HOORAY FOR SCRAPPAGE. I'm just off for a jostle over a pic of Peter Mandleson (with rat-face moustace.)L8RZ.

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c. your going to the wrong garaged if you say you have been looking at a new car for months,most commision earning sales people drop you like a hot tattie.

now im hardly going to go into a garage and tell them ive been looking for months now am i :roll: tried 3 skoda dealers as i fancied an octavia vrs they offered dire trade in prices and never called back when they said they would :shock: still waiting on a test drive as they never had a demonstrator or so the said.tried 2 seat garages same thing :roll: and now ive given up till january as hopefully once the scrapage bollox ends then i may get some decent service :wink:
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cheap suits? hardly,and i thought you weren't working at the moment ,so it won't be that much tax from you will it?and if you did have a clue you would realise it is not costing taxpayers a penny,the vat profit is expected to be over £150 million.why you so sore at me?is it because you had to refund me the money from the retro cars mags sale that you had tried to do me out off?L8RZ

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what do you do for a living?

I travel back in time to WWII, shoot innocent jews in the back and fling their bodies into a mass grave.

Well, if I didn't do it, someone else would do it......

Wouldn't want to rock the boat or lose my commission on the body count.

 

Bit of a harsh parallel to draw with what you are doing, but it's a parallel nonetheless.

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